LIVERPOOL STRIKER LUIS Suarez has tonight been handed a eight-match ban and a hefty £40,000 fine for racially abusing Manchester United’s Patrice Evra.
The Old Trafford defender insisted he was racially abused ‘up to 10 times’ by the Uruguayan during the 1-1 draw at Anfield in October.
“An Independent Regulatory Commission has today found a charge of misconduct against Luis Suarez proven,” an FA statement reads, “and have issued a suspension for a period of eight matches as well as fining him £40,000, pending appeal.”
English Association chiefs said any ban would not start until the outcome of any appeal.
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Liverpool, meanwhile, hit back quickly, issuing a long statement which beings: “Liverpool Football Club is very surprised and disappointed with the decision of the Football Association Commission to find Luis Suarez guilty of the charges against him.
“We look forward to the publication of the Commission’s Judgment. We will study the detailed reasons of the Commission once they become available, but reserve our right to appeal or take any other course of action we feel appropriate with regards to this situation.
“We find it extraordinary that Luis can be found guilty on the word of Patrice Evra alone when no-one else on the field of play – including Evra’s own Manchester United teammates and all the match officials – heard the alleged conversation between the two players in a crowded Kop goalmouth while a corner kick was about to be taken.
“The Club takes extremely seriously the fight against all forms of discrimination and has a long and successful track record in work relating to anti-racist activity and social inclusion. We remain committed to this ideal and equality for all, irrespective of a person’s background.
“LFC considers racism in any form to be unacceptable – without compromise. It is our strong held belief, having gone over the facts of the case, that Luis Suarez did not commit any racist act. It is also our opinion that the accusation by this particular player was not credible – certainly no more credible than his prior unfounded accusations.
“It is key to note that Patrice Evra himself in his written statement in this case said ‘I don’t think that Luis Suarez is racist’. The FA in their opening remarks accepted that Luis Suarez was not racist. Luis himself is of a mixed race family background as his grandfather was black. He has been personally involved since the 2010 World Cup in a charitable project which uses sport to encourage solidarity amongst people of different backgrounds with the central theme that the colour of a person’s skin does not matter; they can all play together as a team.
“He has played with black players and mixed with their families whilst with the Uruguay national side and was Captain at Ajax Amsterdam of a team with a proud multi-cultural profile, many of whom became good friends.
“It seems incredible to us that a player of mixed heritage should be accused and found guilty in the way he has based on the evidence presented. We do not recognise the way in which Luis Suarez has been characterised. It appears to us that the FA were determined to bring charges against Luis Suarez, even before interviewing him at the beginning of November. Nothing we have heard in the course of the hearing has changed our view that Luis Suarez is innocent of the charges brought against him and we will provide Luis with whatever support he now needs to clear his name.”
Touchy subject, but for me after reading the statement I think it was the wrong decision, no clear evidence and no other witnesses, would love to see the evidence which they used to charge him.
England captain John Terry should receive a 16 game ban since there is no argument that a language barrier existed between him and Ferdinand. Most likely the FA who probably emailed the police themselves to report Terry for racism will use the Crown prosecutors failing to proceed with charges to not punish Terry,
If he’s guilty , his ban should have been longer but the fact that Terry’s up on a the same charge the FA won’t want him banned for any longer the 8 matches with Euro 2012 next summer
so kangaroo court justice is ok with you then. this is a disgraceful abuse of power..evra admits abusing suarez in spanish about his heritage but no charge..evra has previous for lying..suarez accepts he used a term that is not considered racist in uruguay but gets 8 game ban! for first offence.evra even stated in hiscwritten statement that he believes suarez is not a racist.disgraceful decision
The club believe what was said wasn’t racist and are defending their player, don’t see what’s wrong with that.
This whole case is a farce. Nobody else in a crowded goalmouth heard what Evra’s alleges was said, none of the officials heard it, none of the mics picked it up and none of the cameras caught it being said. Evra has a history of lying about racism (he accused referee Andre Marriner of only booking him because he’s black IN THE SAME GAME and he was banned in 2008 for lying to a commission saying he was racially abused by a Chelsea groundsman) and yet his testimony is the sole basis of this conviction.
The lad’s life has been ruined by this, everywhere he goes he’ll get abuse. The alleged word “negrito” isn’t an insult in Uruguay or other Spanish speaking countries. They can’t believe what’s going on.
At the end of the day, the facts were carefully considered, and the verdict delivered in due course. It is pretty simple really. It will be interesting to see how Liverpool’s sponsors react. They might not want to be associated with anything to do with this.
@Colm
Evra does not have previous for lying and he clearly did not lie in this instance. Mike Phelan made those allegations at Chelsea. And the term that Suarez used was definitely racist, as he has been found guilty.
From the Telegraph: “The fact that he uttered the term “negrito” during the heat of battle between two such fierce rivals, Liverpool and Manchester United, to Fabrice Evra, a player he has no history of friendship with, arguably undermines any claim that the Uruguay striker was being amicable.”
You think there is nothing wrong with this? Evra was absolutely right to react in the way he that he did, and the court agreed.
@Paul
With that statement Liverpool basically “ah he can’t be racist, sure he has black friends”. Plus in that statement they undermine Evra’s credibility and then use his statement to defend Suarez, which is pretty bizarre.
LFC state that Mr Suarez cannot possibly be racist owing to him being of mixed race and having black friends……. An incredible statement made from a bygone age, maybe something a certain Mr Blatter my blurt out without thought.
Though he may not be racist, his alleged comments were.
Having a black grandfather and having a long record of working alongside black people without issue is a bit different than the typical “i have a black friend” excuse that most racists use to judge an entire people. If he thought what he said was racist he probably would not have admitted it. Words have different meanings and interpretations around the world.
evra stated that he believes suarez is NOT racist. evra also admits abusing suarez about his south american heritage in spanish but where counter charge? suarez grandfather is black..for the love of God how tge hell is he racist! yes he used term “negrito” which in uruguay is acceptable..this punishment is an abuse of power..max 3 game ban warranted but 8 in my opinion this smacks of fa scoring points and currying favour..has nothing to do with natural justice but more to do with getting at herr blatter. Oh yes..im a Liverpool fan and a Rangers one too
Paul, evra didn’t report the incident in Stamford bridge, it was reported by other man utd players.
Less emotion more facts please! Don’t forget that Suarez admitted calling evra a negrino. The question is: did he understand the meaning of this word in the uk?
1. You don’t know what he admitted to saying, that’s just what newspapers have said.
2. The word “negrito” means nothing in English. It is not an offensive word in the slightest, it is only ever used as a term of endearment in Spanish speaking countries
3. Evra’s testimony to the commission in 2008 was called “exaggerated and misleading”
LFC statement is factually inaccurate – Evra never made any previous racism accusations. In the issue with the Chelsea groundsman it was a MUFC coach who alleged the groundsman made the racist comment not Evra.
get your facts right. In the Chelsea incident Evra was banned for fighting with a Chelsea official during a post match warm down. United coach Mike Phelan was the one who raised the issue of racism during Evra’s appeal to the original ban.
Amazing that people are deciding Evra is a liar in the Suarez case on the inaccurate interpretation of a past event.
Hi SP,
It was actually two deaf utd fans watching on tv that accused Steve Finnan.
But Evra was there, and never said it didn’t happen.. which it didn’t.
Me calling on a football pitch – Good God what is next. It wouldn’t happen at a GAA game, they just beat up the ref, supporters, fellow players and anybody else on the way home. No name calling – definately not allowed.
It’ll be interesting to see if John Terry gets the same treatment, given that he was clearly seen to yell racist abuse to Anton Ferdinand and he’s England captain.
What clip has he been seen saying that? One of his best mates is kammy on goals on Sunday > he’s black and said Terry is not racist! Media led society we live in
This will not stand up to an appeal, Evra as a person has proved himself to be a prick who will always be a prick. I know what racism is & can do to a person but we cannot find people guilty on the accusers word alone especially someone who has cried wolf on previous occasions. This would not happen in a court of law, so why football ?
He admitted it. Do we need to translate that into Uruguayan also so its understood.
So whats your comments on Suarez who was found guilty of ear biting and is on charge now for 1 fingered salute, suppose he is a pillar of society. I am sure he would be a great role model for your kids?
Oh ya, he admitted it. SIMPLES or maybe as dear Rafa said, FACT.
Luis Suarez is at a press conference and is asked by a reporter ”do you think that an 8 game ban is a bit harsh?” he replied ”it could be worse, I could be black”……….
8 match ban is over the top as both players were involved but only one got punished.
Let’s see if the FA take the QPR players word for it over John Terry. Don’t think so with Terry been England Captain going to the Euro’s. Double standards again. Same with Rooneys ban, FA fought against it. When in the premier league they do the opposite
No one has any facts here so cannot possibly comment on the case. Wait till the fa’s statement then we can debate it. I’m a Liverpool fan and a Suarez fan and really hope that turns out to be a witch hunt but without the facts of the case it’s all speculation!!!!!! Chill peeps
Suarez used the word negro.and he admitted that…it doesnt matter if its not a non racial term in uruguay it is in the UK or Ireland and is not acceptable….
the term ‘well bollocks’ is a well used phase of endearment in my local pub, but I doubt that if I said that to a cop that I’d get away with claiming its not abusive in wider society.
Evra did abuse him, but didnt racially abuse him – if suarez or liverpool wanted to make that accusation they should have made a complaint not cried about it after.
aidan…noone here is codoning racism..they are simply pointing to the imposition of kangaroo court justice on uncoroborated evidence. that on top of admission of use if word that in suarez culture is NOT regarded as racist by a man of mixed race heritage. 3 game ban and further 3 game ban suspended for period of time would be fairer punishment
I was just waiting for Dalglish to come out with the victim line. It’s annoying how spineless some people are. As much sac I respect Suarez as a being talented his constant diving, feigning injury, waving the fake yellow for players to be booked and giving the middle finger to the crowd are consistent with someone who I wouldn’t consider to be too pure if character. Also that the defence of him by saying that he’s played with loads of different races before so how can he be racist is laughable. Suarez could be the most racist guy in the world but if you pay him 100k a week I guarantee he quickly forgets about colour!
I think you’ll find the diving and waving of the yellow card is all to commonplace in football these days Ricky. Suarez used a racial slur, admitted it, got banned. I cannot see how anyone is even arguing the issue.
@Leslie – He admitted it, exactly. Thats the facts. Thats the evidence. As said on talksport its worrying that Daglish is “walking” side by side with Suarez.
Colm, I can see the point your making, it is harsh, as a united fan, I agree with you, but also you need to step out of the box,.cut your emotional ties and look at how bad liverpool is being shown up here. This is done and dusted, facts shown and proven. Pc society we live in, suarez learning media side of public life
This is the second time evra has called the race card he was thrown out the first time if he kept saying it he had to have some luck . When he couldn’t get the better of him on the field he had to resort to dirty tactics evra should be embrassed of him self
If you understood the first case you wouldn’t be writing blind comments like that.
Did Evra say he was racially abuse by the Chelsea steward?
Did Evra report the steward for this?
When as at the hearing if he heard what the steward said, what was Evras response?
And this is the 3rd time that Suarez is facing charges, so he is the victim?
Embarrassing stuff from yourself there, understand the cases first, then comment.
Suarez admitted to it, so whats to understand with the BS about “its one mans word”, he admitted it, SIMPLES.
Its really puts the supporters of Suarez through this into a dim light and those who continue it are glorified sympathizers. The LFC statement has been commented on throughout the internet and its embarrassing. The level of victimization from LFC is cringy.
As for the conspiracy theories, Suarez has a history of conflict whether it be with players or fans. His career is ruined, by himself.
He has been found guilty, the carry on by LFC is really does not show a good picture.
Its quite simple, he admitted to it, he will have a nice holiday now with the other 3 match ban down the line for 1 fingered salute.
He is indefensible, if it was Rooney who called Johnson negrito would we have the same blinkered reaction from LFC????? Fans from other clubs all the see the wrong in it, it goes beyond football rivalry, unfortunately LFC don’t have that ability.
LFC won with this fight with the FA, they will just look foolish.
What are you on about?? It’s a ridiculous argument stating that if Rooney called Johnson negrito LFC fans would not be too impressed. They are both English and would therefore understand the cultural context of using the word!
Would Suarez have used the term 10 times as alleged if he actually thought it was a racist term?
kangaroo justice is wrong no matter who involved. evra has been proven to have LIED about this topic in past..chelsea groundsman and steve finnan..he ADMITTED to abusing Luis Suarez in Spanish about his south american lineage but no charge from fa..evra also stated that his personal velief is tgat Suarez is not a racist..btw..Suarez grandfather is black…this is acwitch hunt…SIMPLES!
So was Suarez tasting the salt content of Bakkal when he went for his ear or is that a cultural thing too?
Suarez isn’t stupid, well maybe he is, but he used the word, even worse he used it 10 times. He even admitted it.
He deserves what he is getting.
LFC with a character assassination on Evra now could be in even more hot water. We know that Evra isn’t a likely person but LFC have just shot themselves in the foot with their official statement.
Its going to get messy and LFC aren’t going to come out good from this.
There is nothing to debate here, he has been found out and banned.
There is no excuses for racism, its ignorant to try to find one.
As I have stated already just because its “alright” to do it in 1 country then its not in another.
If you go again to another case of the couple who got 3 months jail for having sex on a beach in Dubai, why didn’t they get off “cause its ok back home”…
Suarez is in a country where its not acceptable, he gets the punishment.
jesus christ.. give it a rest liverpool fans.. you’re arguments are tame.. he admitted to using the word “negrito”.. the spanish meaning is irrelevant.. im sure a professional like himself knows its not acceptable..
Suarez and to a lesser extent Liverpool have hung themselves here. They were warned repeatedly not to comment on the case in the media and chose to ignore the warnings.
Suarez in particular admitting that he used term “negrito” finished him. Yes it might be acceptable in Uruguay, but he has been living in Europe long enough now to know that it is not acceptable in our culture.
I find it hard to understand why people can’t accept this. Firstly, 8 games is not long and secondly there was a thorough investigation where all the facts were laid out. Sometimes football players make mistakes. Issues such as racism and homophobia are above the clubs we support.
so..in the aftermath of Thierry Henrys handball..did everyone just call him.a cheat or did it get worse than that…glass houses people. the punishment here us far to harsh
The Premier League and football as a whole is backwards, if this happened in the NFL he would be banned for the season and fined millions. I do believe Suarez got what he deserved, now Terry must also be punished.
very few people here have any concept of natural justice and mitigation.
also some of you obviously cant read..ive stated more than once that the punishment is wrong so finally and in caps 3 GAME BAN with balance suspended would be fairer in light of his admissions
Probably the most revered figure in the history of Uruguayan football is Obdulio Varela, captain of the side that won the World Cup in 1950. His nickname was “El Negro Jefe” – the black boss.
It’s not a black or White issue, pardon the pun.
It makes me laugh how all united supporters are such ambassadors for anti racism campaigns all of a sudden.
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Touchy subject, but for me after reading the statement I think it was the wrong decision, no clear evidence and no other witnesses, would love to see the evidence which they used to charge him.
Except for the fact that he admitted using the word
England captain John Terry should receive a 16 game ban since there is no argument that a language barrier existed between him and Ferdinand. Most likely the FA who probably emailed the police themselves to report Terry for racism will use the Crown prosecutors failing to proceed with charges to not punish Terry,
If he’s guilty , his ban should have been longer but the fact that Terry’s up on a the same charge the FA won’t want him banned for any longer the 8 matches with Euro 2012 next summer
First of all, it’s impossible to give an informed comment on a judgement that hasn’t yet been published.
2nd, that Liverpool statement is appalling. Let’s kick racism out of football…as long as it isn’t our player.
Lastly, this has no real relevance to the John Terry case. He is under police investigation, so FA are least of his worries.
so kangaroo court justice is ok with you then. this is a disgraceful abuse of power..evra admits abusing suarez in spanish about his heritage but no charge..evra has previous for lying..suarez accepts he used a term that is not considered racist in uruguay but gets 8 game ban! for first offence.evra even stated in hiscwritten statement that he believes suarez is not a racist.disgraceful decision
The club believe what was said wasn’t racist and are defending their player, don’t see what’s wrong with that.
This whole case is a farce. Nobody else in a crowded goalmouth heard what Evra’s alleges was said, none of the officials heard it, none of the mics picked it up and none of the cameras caught it being said. Evra has a history of lying about racism (he accused referee Andre Marriner of only booking him because he’s black IN THE SAME GAME and he was banned in 2008 for lying to a commission saying he was racially abused by a Chelsea groundsman) and yet his testimony is the sole basis of this conviction.
The lad’s life has been ruined by this, everywhere he goes he’ll get abuse. The alleged word “negrito” isn’t an insult in Uruguay or other Spanish speaking countries. They can’t believe what’s going on.
Well said Paul
At the end of the day, the facts were carefully considered, and the verdict delivered in due course. It is pretty simple really. It will be interesting to see how Liverpool’s sponsors react. They might not want to be associated with anything to do with this.
@Colm
Evra does not have previous for lying and he clearly did not lie in this instance. Mike Phelan made those allegations at Chelsea. And the term that Suarez used was definitely racist, as he has been found guilty.
From the Telegraph: “The fact that he uttered the term “negrito” during the heat of battle between two such fierce rivals, Liverpool and Manchester United, to Fabrice Evra, a player he has no history of friendship with, arguably undermines any claim that the Uruguay striker was being amicable.”
You think there is nothing wrong with this? Evra was absolutely right to react in the way he that he did, and the court agreed.
@Paul
With that statement Liverpool basically “ah he can’t be racist, sure he has black friends”. Plus in that statement they undermine Evra’s credibility and then use his statement to defend Suarez, which is pretty bizarre.
LFC state that Mr Suarez cannot possibly be racist owing to him being of mixed race and having black friends……. An incredible statement made from a bygone age, maybe something a certain Mr Blatter my blurt out without thought.
Though he may not be racist, his alleged comments were.
Having a black grandfather and having a long record of working alongside black people without issue is a bit different than the typical “i have a black friend” excuse that most racists use to judge an entire people. If he thought what he said was racist he probably would not have admitted it. Words have different meanings and interpretations around the world.
evra stated that he believes suarez is NOT racist. evra also admits abusing suarez about his south american heritage in spanish but where counter charge? suarez grandfather is black..for the love of God how tge hell is he racist! yes he used term “negrito” which in uruguay is acceptable..this punishment is an abuse of power..max 3 game ban warranted but 8 in my opinion this smacks of fa scoring points and currying favour..has nothing to do with natural justice but more to do with getting at herr blatter. Oh yes..im a Liverpool fan and a Rangers one too
Get over it colm, he is not on my fantasy football team so I dont care ;-)
Liverpool are really going to miss him, what with his 2 goals in the last 10 games.
He’s the English captain, they don’t want to ruin his or their images, double standards.
Paul, evra didn’t report the incident in Stamford bridge, it was reported by other man utd players.
Less emotion more facts please! Don’t forget that Suarez admitted calling evra a negrino. The question is: did he understand the meaning of this word in the uk?
1. You don’t know what he admitted to saying, that’s just what newspapers have said.
2. The word “negrito” means nothing in English. It is not an offensive word in the slightest, it is only ever used as a term of endearment in Spanish speaking countries
3. Evra’s testimony to the commission in 2008 was called “exaggerated and misleading”
French. That is all.
ha, that made me laugh!
LFC statement is factually inaccurate – Evra never made any previous racism accusations. In the issue with the Chelsea groundsman it was a MUFC coach who alleged the groundsman made the racist comment not Evra.
precisely..evra accused groundsman of racially abusing him and was found to be lying!
Evra made the initial complaint and Mike Phelan corroborated it. Both were lying.
He accused Peter finnan before also
get your facts right. In the Chelsea incident Evra was banned for fighting with a Chelsea official during a post match warm down. United coach Mike Phelan was the one who raised the issue of racism during Evra’s appeal to the original ban.
Amazing that people are deciding Evra is a liar in the Suarez case on the inaccurate interpretation of a past event.
Hi SP,
It was actually two deaf utd fans watching on tv that accused Steve Finnan.
But Evra was there, and never said it didn’t happen.. which it didn’t.
Isn’t it funny that evra is at the centre of it all the time though
I think its hilarious, Alan
The ultimate troll
Evra accused the Senegalese fans of racially abusing him.
Me calling on a football pitch – Good God what is next. It wouldn’t happen at a GAA game, they just beat up the ref, supporters, fellow players and anybody else on the way home. No name calling – definately not allowed.
I doubt the O Hailpins share your belief.. they’ve been racially abused on several occasions according to them.
And I know for a fact Jason Sherlock received and awful lot of abuse while playing Gaa
It’ll be interesting to see if John Terry gets the same treatment, given that he was clearly seen to yell racist abuse to Anton Ferdinand and he’s England captain.
What clip has he been seen saying that? One of his best mates is kammy on goals on Sunday > he’s black and said Terry is not racist! Media led society we live in
What clip? are you serious?
This will not stand up to an appeal, Evra as a person has proved himself to be a prick who will always be a prick. I know what racism is & can do to a person but we cannot find people guilty on the accusers word alone especially someone who has cried wolf on previous occasions. This would not happen in a court of law, so why football ?
Ha ha ha, such passion, liverpool fan no doubt. How dare Evra, how very dare he
He admitted it. Do we need to translate that into Uruguayan also so its understood.
So whats your comments on Suarez who was found guilty of ear biting and is on charge now for 1 fingered salute, suppose he is a pillar of society. I am sure he would be a great role model for your kids?
Oh ya, he admitted it. SIMPLES or maybe as dear Rafa said, FACT.
Luis Suarez is at a press conference and is asked by a reporter ”do you think that an 8 game ban is a bit harsh?” he replied ”it could be worse, I could be black”……….
Sorry, I’ll get my coat…….
8 match ban is over the top as both players were involved but only one got punished.
Let’s see if the FA take the QPR players word for it over John Terry. Don’t think so with Terry been England Captain going to the Euro’s. Double standards again. Same with Rooneys ban, FA fought against it. When in the premier league they do the opposite
@SkyJacquie: FA in a witch hunt against Suarez they have taken Evra word for it and Evra also abused Suarez but no action !”
That is from jacquie beltrao’s twitter account. I think she has summed it up perfectly
You must be from cork ……
@jrmbc you must be from Leinster.
Liverpool supporters are out of bed early today ;-)
On the basis of this ridiculous ban John Terry will be looking at 2 years in jail ….. He might be looking forward to spending time with his Dad !
No one has any facts here so cannot possibly comment on the case. Wait till the fa’s statement then we can debate it. I’m a Liverpool fan and a Suarez fan and really hope that turns out to be a witch hunt but without the facts of the case it’s all speculation!!!!!! Chill peeps
Suarez used the word negro.and he admitted that…it doesnt matter if its not a non racial term in uruguay it is in the UK or Ireland and is not acceptable….
the term ‘well bollocks’ is a well used phase of endearment in my local pub, but I doubt that if I said that to a cop that I’d get away with claiming its not abusive in wider society.
Evra did abuse him, but didnt racially abuse him – if suarez or liverpool wanted to make that accusation they should have made a complaint not cried about it after.
For those who keeping saying “he shouldn’t be banned as its ok to say it in Uruguay”……
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-15688354
So should we stone people over here for adultery.
He has gone and cost LFC a 4th place and 20m + with his mouth, I don’t see LFC fining him now either for his misconduct, speaks volumes really.
And its worrying the amount of people on here who seem to be supporting racism and Suarez who admitted it using a derogatory word.
aidan…noone here is codoning racism..they are simply pointing to the imposition of kangaroo court justice on uncoroborated evidence. that on top of admission of use if word that in suarez culture is NOT regarded as racist by a man of mixed race heritage. 3 game ban and further 3 game ban suspended for period of time would be fairer punishment
@Colm – He admitted it, how much more evidence is needed?
I was just waiting for Dalglish to come out with the victim line. It’s annoying how spineless some people are. As much sac I respect Suarez as a being talented his constant diving, feigning injury, waving the fake yellow for players to be booked and giving the middle finger to the crowd are consistent with someone who I wouldn’t consider to be too pure if character. Also that the defence of him by saying that he’s played with loads of different races before so how can he be racist is laughable. Suarez could be the most racist guy in the world but if you pay him 100k a week I guarantee he quickly forgets about colour!
He is from mixed race background..his grandfather is black!
I think you’ll find the diving and waving of the yellow card is all to commonplace in football these days Ricky. Suarez used a racial slur, admitted it, got banned. I cannot see how anyone is even arguing the issue.
@Leslie – He admitted it, exactly. Thats the facts. Thats the evidence. As said on talksport its worrying that Daglish is “walking” side by side with Suarez.
Colm, I can see the point your making, it is harsh, as a united fan, I agree with you, but also you need to step out of the box,.cut your emotional ties and look at how bad liverpool is being shown up here. This is done and dusted, facts shown and proven. Pc society we live in, suarez learning media side of public life
In my country it’s ok to say that !
This is the second time evra has called the race card he was thrown out the first time if he kept saying it he had to have some luck . When he couldn’t get the better of him on the field he had to resort to dirty tactics evra should be embrassed of him self
If you understood the first case you wouldn’t be writing blind comments like that.
Did Evra say he was racially abuse by the Chelsea steward?
Did Evra report the steward for this?
When as at the hearing if he heard what the steward said, what was Evras response?
And this is the 3rd time that Suarez is facing charges, so he is the victim?
Embarrassing stuff from yourself there, understand the cases first, then comment.
He’s a dirtbag , he was banned before for biting a footballers ear during a game, even to look at him he looks like a dog that has rabies
and that is ok to say about a fellow human being!
@jrbmc you should put up a picture of yourself and we can all comment on your good looks.
Does your mammy know you’re on the internet? Classy stuff!
I say,you say….
Suarez admitted to it, so whats to understand with the BS about “its one mans word”, he admitted it, SIMPLES.
Its really puts the supporters of Suarez through this into a dim light and those who continue it are glorified sympathizers. The LFC statement has been commented on throughout the internet and its embarrassing. The level of victimization from LFC is cringy.
As for the conspiracy theories, Suarez has a history of conflict whether it be with players or fans. His career is ruined, by himself.
He has been found guilty, the carry on by LFC is really does not show a good picture.
Its quite simple, he admitted to it, he will have a nice holiday now with the other 3 match ban down the line for 1 fingered salute.
He is indefensible, if it was Rooney who called Johnson negrito would we have the same blinkered reaction from LFC????? Fans from other clubs all the see the wrong in it, it goes beyond football rivalry, unfortunately LFC don’t have that ability.
LFC won with this fight with the FA, they will just look foolish.
What are you on about?? It’s a ridiculous argument stating that if Rooney called Johnson negrito LFC fans would not be too impressed. They are both English and would therefore understand the cultural context of using the word!
Would Suarez have used the term 10 times as alleged if he actually thought it was a racist term?
kangaroo justice is wrong no matter who involved. evra has been proven to have LIED about this topic in past..chelsea groundsman and steve finnan..he ADMITTED to abusing Luis Suarez in Spanish about his south american lineage but no charge from fa..evra also stated that his personal velief is tgat Suarez is not a racist..btw..Suarez grandfather is black…this is acwitch hunt…SIMPLES!
So was Suarez tasting the salt content of Bakkal when he went for his ear or is that a cultural thing too?
Suarez isn’t stupid, well maybe he is, but he used the word, even worse he used it 10 times. He even admitted it.
He deserves what he is getting.
LFC with a character assassination on Evra now could be in even more hot water. We know that Evra isn’t a likely person but LFC have just shot themselves in the foot with their official statement.
Its going to get messy and LFC aren’t going to come out good from this.
@ Colm lol – laughable.
Mike Phelan reported the grounds man for the alleged abuse against Evra.
His grandfather is black so that makes it ok……
LFC turning into the comedy channel.
Pointless debating with you when you can’t even comprehend why Rooney calling Johnson negrito would be a completely different situation.
There is nothing to debate here, he has been found out and banned.
There is no excuses for racism, its ignorant to try to find one.
As I have stated already just because its “alright” to do it in 1 country then its not in another.
If you go again to another case of the couple who got 3 months jail for having sex on a beach in Dubai, why didn’t they get off “cause its ok back home”…
Suarez is in a country where its not acceptable, he gets the punishment.
jesus christ.. give it a rest liverpool fans.. you’re arguments are tame.. he admitted to using the word “negrito”.. the spanish meaning is irrelevant.. im sure a professional like himself knows its not acceptable..
Suarez and to a lesser extent Liverpool have hung themselves here. They were warned repeatedly not to comment on the case in the media and chose to ignore the warnings.
Suarez in particular admitting that he used term “negrito” finished him. Yes it might be acceptable in Uruguay, but he has been living in Europe long enough now to know that it is not acceptable in our culture.
well funny how its ok to level accusations in media before the referee even informed!
What does negrito mean in our culture? I have honestly never heard it before.
What does “negrito” mean in our culture?
Apologies for the double post. Phone is acting up.
I find it hard to understand why people can’t accept this. Firstly, 8 games is not long and secondly there was a thorough investigation where all the facts were laid out. Sometimes football players make mistakes. Issues such as racism and homophobia are above the clubs we support.
so..in the aftermath of Thierry Henrys handball..did everyone just call him.a cheat or did it get worse than that…glass houses people. the punishment here us far to harsh
Only a ginger can call another ginger ginger..
What if they are dyed ginger?
The Premier League and football as a whole is backwards, if this happened in the NFL he would be banned for the season and fined millions. I do believe Suarez got what he deserved, now Terry must also be punished.
Just wait and see the FA’s statement, I would just like to see where they got their evidence from.
very few people here have any concept of natural justice and mitigation.
also some of you obviously cant read..ive stated more than once that the punishment is wrong so finally and in caps 3 GAME BAN with balance suspended would be fairer in light of his admissions
Would be fairer in your eyes.
He can count himself lucky as the Everton fan who got 8 months ban.
The words to read are “He admitted it”.
Justice took near 2 months and the sentence has been handed down. He and LFC should man up and accept it.
Can Aidan Gill please write “he admitted it” once more please, I just don’t get what he’s trying to say.
I’ll stop writing it when LFC stop coming out with “its one mans word against another”… ;)
Probably the most revered figure in the history of Uruguayan football is Obdulio Varela, captain of the side that won the World Cup in 1950. His nickname was “El Negro Jefe” – the black boss.
It’s not a black or White issue, pardon the pun.
It makes me laugh how all united supporters are such ambassadors for anti racism campaigns all of a sudden.
Liverpool’s statement is scandalous, Evra should sue for defamation of character!
PFA Chief Gordon Taylor has backed the FA’s decision and not their member, says it all really.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/dec/21/luis-suarez-racism-gordon-taylor
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/7390320/Terry-faces-criminal-charge
Terry to be charged also now.
Aiden I would just like to say fair play to you, you argued well and I’m on your side. Your 100% right!