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'Does Roy Keane want to be noticed, or is he envious?' - Paddy Crerand launches into Keano

Old Trafford is a house divided.

WHEN YOU DISAGREE with Manchester United, you disagree with Paddy Crerand.

The Old Trafford great โ€” a European Cup winner in 1968 with the club โ€” is now more known for his on-air rants and work as a MUTV presenter.

Today, Crerand was moved to take on former United Roy Keane after the Corkmanโ€™s insistence last night that Nani deserved to be sent off against Real Madrid.

โ€˜Roy Keane was in a minority of one,โ€ Crerand told the BBC. โ€œNot one person said it was a red card apart from Roy. Does Roy want to be noticed, or is he envious, jealous or has got the needle with Manchester United because of what happened?โ€

โ€œRoy Keane is the one person that has come out and stated he should have been sent off, nobody else agrees with him. So why are we talking about Roy Keane? Why arenโ€™t we talking about the other 99 per cent of people who said it wasnโ€™t a sending off.

โ€˜Why are we talking about Roy Keane, because he played for Manchester United? Well let me tell you something. Iโ€™ve played for Manchester United, Iโ€™ve played in a European Cup final, and Roy didnโ€™t. The referee was wrong.โ€

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    Mute Itiswhatitis
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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:08 PM

    Keano is entitled to his opinion whether you like it or not is another story. He isnt everyone cup of tea and I wouldnโ€™t lose sleep over what he says.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:14 PM

    And crerand is cut from the same cloth. Thatโ€™s why weโ€™re hearing his view now.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:42 PM

    Paddy who? Roy was an excellent modern player so why wouldnโ€™t we listen to his opinion? He was being paid to give it after all. And by the rules of the game, it was a red card.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:46 PM

    Educate yourself trollโ€ฆis that all you do is troll? It must get boring in all fairness?

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:48 PM

    Good man Paddy. Show your ignorance.

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    Mute Andy Duggan
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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:50 PM

    What are you talking about leslie? How are any of the points I have made here inflammatory to you?

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    Mute Leslie Alan Rock
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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:55 PM

    On nearly every thread you bore and troll the bejaysus out of everyone. You have some skewed notions going on. You argue with some ridiculous ideas. It really must get boring.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:03 PM

    I donโ€™t expect my views to be universally popular all of the time, especially with the demographic here. But that in no way invalidates them as opinions. If you call someone putting across alternative view points as trolling, then that is your prerogative. Enjoy your narrow-minded opinions and insular existence.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:09 PM

    Actually Andy by the rules of the game it wasnโ€™t a red card. Look up the wording yourself if you are unconvinced. Your first clue is that everybody but you and a very small minority canโ€™t be wrong.

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    Mute Andy Duggan
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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:26 PM

    Flawless logic there Niall. The majority of the German pop. supported Hitler, but hey, they couldnโ€™t all have been wrong? FF/FG are the most popular parties in the country with a majority in support, therefore, by your logic, they are the right choice.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:46 PM

    Yeah, you are boring.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:54 PM

    Leslie shush nowโ€ฆ.stop digging.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 11:03 PM

    Ah Andy, read his profile. A true giant of the United family

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    Mar 6th 2013, 11:05 PM

    Will people stop using that STUPID word troll? It drives me mad!

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    Mar 6th 2013, 11:17 PM

    No offence Andy but youโ€™ve been over this whole united thing like a tramp on chips, so you have gone a bit boring in fairness. Nice to be noticed I suppose.

    Are you a jealous Liverpool fan by any chance? Itโ€™s them that are usually plugging away on these United things while their own club has gone down the swany.

    Asking who Paddy Crerand is?? Seriously?

    Youโ€™re Welcome.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 11:20 PM

    Hitler brought into the argument in less than three posts! You sure you understand what the term troll means?

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    Mar 6th 2013, 11:39 PM

    Take it outside ladiesโ€ฆ.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 11:42 PM

    Ill take Aoife outside!! ;)

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    Mar 6th 2013, 11:47 PM

    Thereโ€™s a queue budโ€ฆ

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    Mar 6th 2013, 11:49 PM

    Aoife is on the left BTW ;-)

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    Mar 6th 2013, 11:54 PM

    Markโ€™s up 1stโ€ฆ.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 11:55 PM

    Is say so Colm. The thing is, Iโ€™m top of it.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 11:56 PM

    Lesson learned, never commenting on a sports related article again. Boys will be boys!!

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    Mar 6th 2013, 11:59 PM

    Yeah mark thatโ€™s terribleโ€ฆ.

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    Mar 7th 2013, 12:04 AM

    Troll troll troll troll troll troll trollโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆtroll

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    Mar 7th 2013, 12:18 AM

    JUVE all the way

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    Mar 7th 2013, 12:29 AM

    Did you only write Juve because you couldnโ€™t spell the full name?

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    Mar 7th 2013, 12:51 AM

    Of course everybody has the right to talk through their arse, but the bigger you are the bigger eejit you are.

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    Mar 7th 2013, 12:56 AM

    @Andy. โ€˜By the rules of the game he deserved to be sent off โ€˜. Different rules than the ones I know to be correct. The rule book I know clearly states there โ€œhas to be intent โ€ for it to warrant a red card. And even the almighty keano himself admitted/inferred there was no intent

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    Mar 7th 2013, 2:18 AM

    From where the ref saw it, it was a red cardโ€ฆ. It all matters in that split second decisionโ€ฆ Cannot second guessโ€ฆ Was it wrong, yes, but these things even out, even Fergie said that, but never when you are winning 5 nilโ€ฆ. Thats just how it isโ€ฆ. Fergie distraught? Well payback is a bitchโ€ฆ.

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    Mar 7th 2013, 2:54 AM

    Actually Mr. H never had majority support in free elections. โ€ฆ

    http://facts.randomhistory.com/hitler-facts.html

    โ€œHitler never gained majority support in free elections. The most the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP) garnered was 37.3% in July 1932. In 1933, when Hitler became Chancellor, the Nazis had only one third of the seats in the Reichstag.โ€

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    Mar 7th 2013, 4:52 AM

    Looks like the lads are getting red card/ thumbs here mate lol

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    Mar 7th 2013, 7:14 AM

    Jealous Liverpool fan ???? Why is a United fan mentioning Liverpool its a Moan Utd thread. I was reading through to see what was being said and lo and behold because Crerand has a go at Keane its Liverpoolโ€™s fault. Ah lads you couldnt make it up.

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    Mar 7th 2013, 9:58 AM

    Here, Here! Aoife. Iโ€™m delighted somebody else feels that way. It has overtaken muppet as the new buzz word. Weโ€™re such a bunch of muppets and trolls for fad words. Hopefully it will end soon and we can move on ANON!

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    Mar 7th 2013, 10:24 AM

    I donโ€™t think thatโ€™s correct, in a recent interview Jamie carragher said the worst tackle he ever made was on nani but he didnโ€™t mean it but he also said he doesnโ€™t know how he stayed on the pitch, obviously the referee used your logic that there was no intent to injure the player.

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    Mar 8th 2013, 8:43 AM

    Same reason your mother only called you mark ,because you couldnโ€™t spell anything longer

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:16 PM

    Someone should tell Paddy Crerand the only people allowed to give out and insult Roy Keane are the Irish. He is our muppet and we will deal with him.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:39 PM

    Think of what you saying and get your facts right, Paddy Crerand is a true Irishman has always carried an Irish passport. So that gives him (a donegal man) every right to deal with โ€˜ourโ€™ Problem.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 11:00 PM

    Brilliant comment

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    Mar 6th 2013, 11:05 PM

    This article is about the Paddy Crerand that was born in and played for scotland not the Donegal Paddy Crerand.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 11:08 PM

    Paddy Crerand was born and raised in Glasgow. He played for Scotland. Am I missing something here.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 11:48 PM

    He is about as Irish as Crocodile Dundee. Learn the facts before you spout absolute cack.

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    Mar 7th 2013, 2:51 AM

    Oh yes it is the Donegal Paddy Crerand. A proud Irishman. In the sixties if you were born outside this island you werenโ€™t considered for selection on the Irish team.

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    Mar 7th 2013, 2:53 AM

    Our lord was born in stable. Did that make him a horse?????

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    Mar 7th 2013, 2:53 AM

    And Bauer is a good Irish name???

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    Mar 7th 2013, 8:45 AM

    You are an idiot

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:16 PM

    Not a fan of Keaneโ€™s but thought the comment from Crerand โ€ I played in a European Cup final, Roy Keanโ€™s didnโ€™tโ€ was a cheap shot. He may not have played in 99 Cup Final but he bursted a gut to make sure Utd got there irrespective of whether heโ€™d play or not!

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:18 PM

    Man Utd fans blaming the ref again.. Nani came in with his studs straight into Arbeloaโ€™s chest and deservedly got sent off for it, get over it.. United have had plenty of decisions go their way in the past..

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:25 PM

    Undeservedly, never a red.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:30 PM

    Derek,

    Thatโ€™s not entirely true is it? I mean I wouldnโ€™t expect anything from an ABU. Nani was going for the ball, his eyes at ALL times were locked on the ball. His foot didnโ€™t hit Arbeloaโ€™s chest, he hit him slight on the left side of his ribs and slightly in the left arm. Nobody went to the ref looking for a red card. Mourinho, 4th official, Real Players, everyone except the ref didnโ€™t think It was a red.

    But hey! Thatโ€™s football. We move on. When youโ€™re giving your options on a game, at least make them accurate.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:49 PM

    I agree with the argument dublinlad. I do think ramos wanted the red card he was all over the referee like a cheap suit.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:06 PM

    There doesnโ€™t have to be intent for something to be dangerous. And the fact of the matter is it was dangerous. If it happened to a player on my team, Iโ€™d be p*ssed off too though, it was a soft (but justifiable) red card.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:17 PM

    Yes it does. Buy yourself a rules book.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:20 PM

    Derek, iโ€™m guessing you missed the tackle Arbeloa made on Evra then, huh? He went in studs high and caught him on the leg. Okay Naniโ€™s looked worse because he caught Arbeloa on the chest but if Naniโ€™s tackle was a red card, so was Arbeloaโ€™s. At least Nani was watching the ball and only saw Arbeloa a fraction of a second before making contact with Arbeloa. Arbeloa was looking straight at Evra while he made his challenge.

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    Mar 7th 2013, 12:01 AM

    Andy , you are determined on getting the โ€œintentโ€ doesnโ€™t matter nonsense into the debate , of course it does would you prefer a game with no volley ,over head kick , headers ,50:50 balls , basically no contact ?? your letter of law interpretation betrays a childish view of sport . Btw why are you patrolling UTD related stories makes me think your a closet Man U fan , probably wearing keano Jammiโ€™s ,bless or will you admit you are a liverpoolsupporter with an axe to grind

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:08 PM

    Who cares?

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:13 PM

    Paddy does

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:12 PM

    Paddy Crerand is a muppet. Ironic that heโ€™s ranting about others being contrarian!

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:09 PM

    Look the only person to blame is Nani, not the ref as he was the one with the high tackle and studs showing, had it been the other way round heโ€™d probably still be rolling around the grass. Swings and roundabouts lads and its only footy no one died.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:20 PM

    Well said , couldnโ€™t agree more

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:22 PM

    It wasnโ€™t a tackle. Its a case of he put the foot up to control the ball and man ran into him.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:56 PM

    Shhhhhhhhhush Leslie seriouslyโ€ฆ.

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    Mar 7th 2013, 1:05 AM

    Leslie. Donโ€™t be giving your sense to those who know nothing about football. Never in a million years was that a sending off, and Iโ€™m a true Liverpool fan

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:14 PM

    Every single united fan that is using the red card as an excuse cares. They got beat simple rafael got away with a hand ball so it evens out.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:27 PM

    Oops another Liverpool fan who we havent seen on here before makes an appearance. How would your club be doing in Europe or the league the Robertโ€ฆ.. February and not a competition or CL league position to play for. Enjoy the close season.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:34 PM

    By that logic, Varane should have been sent off in the 1st leg for that foul on Evra. Fact of the matter is, that decision changed the game.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:44 PM

    decisions change games all the time. people should be used used to it

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:22 PM

    And Areboloa got away with a studs up challenge on Evra which should have also been a red card.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 11:03 PM

    What a nasty man Crerand is to have as the voice of the club, casting the fact that Roy didnโ€™t play in the 99cup final. If it wasnโ€™t for him in Turin neither would any of the other 11 who did

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:18 PM

    Well united fans. He slated the Irish fans for singing. He slated the Irish team when Henry handled the ball. You all loved him and respected him. He had an opinion last night in saying it was dangerous play and nani was right to be sent off. Well well well and thatโ€™s all it takes and you hate him. You are all jokers. Your out of the European cup but there is always next year. YNWA 5 Times. Good night and god bless.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:27 PM

    Ynwa? Hasbeen fcโ€ฆ

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:27 PM

    YNWA 5 timesโ€ฆ Shut up. Everytime thereโ€™s a post about united, pool fans are the quickest to get involved because nobody talks about them anymore because they arenโ€™t a top 4 side anymore.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:29 PM

    Paul

    Enjoy being trophyless this season. LOL!!! Also before I forget Oldham Athletic.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:29 PM

    Theyโ€™re barely a top 8 side

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:37 PM

    Is that the best you can come up with Paul? United are jokers??? What about the 24 years without a league, the spouting of Next Year, Brendan Rodgers saying that LFC can fight for 2nd place, 35m spent on Carroll, been beat by Oldham in the cup, supporting a racist, have King Penny at the helm for the 2nd time and having to wheel him off in the end for another nervous breakdown, what about the growth in debt, what about the fact that you are fighting for 7th place with the massive clubs of WBA and Swansea.
    As for fighting for European, will you even make Channel 5 next season? 24 years and growing without a league pot to piss in.
    Continue posting, loving to see the only thing to get a LFC fan a sense of achievement in a season is to post on a story about United losing.
    Hope you enjoy the FA Cup this weekendโ€ฆ..

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:53 PM

    How many Liverpool fans do you need to change a light bulb? None, but thereโ€™s 53 talking about how bright the last one was.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:59 PM

    @Leslie โ€“ they didnโ€™t even have light bulbs back in 1989, the internet wasnโ€™t invented. The list goes on.
    But hey, next year they will get them off the dole queue and into training on a) how to change that lightbulb b) That Milan & Madrid laugh at LFC 5 times spout.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:19 PM

    There wasnโ€™t even a dvdโ€ฆIm sure betamax was popular and so was bergerac

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:45 PM

    Tool and pool

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    Mar 7th 2013, 2:32 AM

    Looks like Fergie will have to stay on another 5 years to try and match Paisley!

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:15 PM

    United are thisโ€ฆ Liverpool are that, give it a rest , it was a harsh decision and United arenโ€™t used to them but .. If they took any one of the 5 great chances they had, the match was put to bed and we wouldnโ€™t be having this discussion.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:13 PM

    Crerand and Keane are well suited to each otherโ€ฆ let them at it cos nothing either says or does will change the result.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:14 PM

    Why all the fuss over Keaneโ€™s comments? He gave a perfectly reasonable and logical explanation of his opinion on the sending off. Itโ€™s telling that those who are losing the rag at him are simply accusing him of attention-seeking rather than refuting his points.

    If Keane set out to get some headlines for himself, all he would have to do is give an interview and make some ludicrous statement about something or other, all he did last night was call it as he saw it which he is perfectly entitled to do. It was a harsh decision but technically correct in my opinion, Iโ€™m sure he can appeal it if they feel like putting their money where their mouth is.

    Crerandโ€™s bitterness towards Roy (and pretty much the entire universe outside MUFC) is pathetic, Keane was a better and more successful player (and manager lol) than he ever was.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:14 PM

    Bored!!!

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:32 PM

    Typical company man stuff from crerand. Keane is entitled to his opinion. At least he speaks his mind unlike a lot of his peers on itv.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:17 PM

    Funny how Roy Keaneโ€™s โ€œopinionโ€ is never worth listening to.
    He likes the limelight and he would say anything to attention.
    Tool.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:19 PM

    Ye make me laugh always with this United/Liverpool bitching every time something happens . The fact is as old Benitez says, United get decisions like this all the time and nothing is ever said. Remember Nani against Spurs in 2010 handling the ball then taking it back off Gomez and scoring a goal, Fergie said Gomez should have known better!! United fans like Fergie are the most blinkered fans Iโ€™ve ever seen. What goes around comes around. Suck it up and move on. By the way Iโ€™m a Gooner so have plenty problems of my own!

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    Mar 7th 2013, 12:44 AM

    Are you sure youโ€™re a gooner? Youโ€™re starting to sound like a pool supporter.

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    Mar 7th 2013, 5:49 AM

    Thatโ€™s because itโ€™s after winning nothing for 8 years it makes u bitter too

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:33 PM

    Hes a moron of a man. Best footballer Ireland ever produced but a complete moronโ€ฆ!!

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:50 PM

    Paddy Crerand. Now thereโ€™s a man youโ€™d never want to be stuck in an elevator with.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:53 PM

    Sometimes manu and Ferguson are given a little too much respect. Real won the game, yet mourinho didnโ€™t appear too excited by it (ok he wants the manu job) and Ronaldo was apologetic about his goal (ok ex club). Respect to them both for good behaviour, but feck it, ye just progressed to the next round and deserve your celebrations too! If I was a Real Madrid fan, Iโ€™d expect a little more enthusiasm.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:59 PM

    Keane will never have anything to do with Man U again itโ€™s a pity he was one of the great united players.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:12 PM

    Coming from a neutral, just watched this challenge a few times over to see what the fuss is all about, defo red card, the kick out and the follow through done it for me. But more to the point that ronaldo fellaโ€ฆ What a waster! Should have had 4

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:23 PM

    Sending off was a mistake, it happens so get over it! (Im a utd fan)

    To all the liverool fans enjoying the moment, well be back next year to try again unlike some other BIG clubs.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:37 PM

    Ferguson is the master of manipulation, itโ€™s a compliment in many ways as his whole reaction has us all discussing this Nani decision, not the wasted chances , not Rafaels handball, not the fact he left Rooney on the bench , or on the bench too long (imho) . Itโ€™s a bad call but you will see far worse every single weekend in the premiership. Heโ€™s a European ref and as ray Houghton was saying German tv pundits all said by the bundesliga itโ€™s a straight red so itโ€™s not as controversial as its being made out

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:13 PM

    You tell him Paddy!

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:53 PM

    Keano is looking for attention, Nani shouldnโ€™t have tackled with a high leg and deserved the red he got! What If he had done serious injury, to the mans chest and weโ€™d be having a different conversation!

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:05 PM

    The key part in this is he came in from behind nani. Never a chance in hell of a serious injury and nani didnโ€™t know about it until there was contact so couldnโ€™t ever in a million yrs have malice or intent or be dangerous. The three key factors in a straight red

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    Mar 7th 2013, 12:14 AM

    True , he could have pulled a gun and shot him as well , where would we be then . Ffs . As anybody ever seen a hurling match with two lads competing for high ball ?? My god , He could have been seriously injured, arboloa had a view and ran onto the ball . i guess fans can say good luck to the concept of their massively paid sporting idols putting their body on the line for the team and the club . Not sure if be a fan of yeโ€™re coot on ball game

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    Mar 6th 2013, 11:03 PM

    It was a red card, I saw the ref holding it. The ref saw what happened then gave nani red. Thatโ€™s how football works. Its not always right but the ref isnโ€™t plugged into the 7 angles we see. People complaining are like fat people complaining about McDonalds, cop on and eat your chips.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:58 PM

    Paddy Crerand playing the man and not the ball โ€“ how ironic is that?

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:54 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH5t58FCs3k

    โ€œIn the immediate aftermath of the challenge by the former Arsenal player, Rio Ferdinand was incensed and can clearly be seen urging the referee to take action.

    Nani is also one of the players that approaches the referee but before the Manchester United winger can complain, referee Alan Wiley had already flashed his red card.

    Sir Alex Ferguson made no complaints at the time and the reaction from Manchester Unitedโ€™s players five years ago, specifically Rio Ferdinand, who clapped referee Cuneyt Cakir in the face at full time last night, is rather telling.โ€
    http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/arsenals-emmanuel-eboue-was-sent-off-at-old-trafford-in-2008-for-a-nani-esque-challenge/

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    Mar 7th 2013, 12:18 AM

    Not even kinda close.

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    Mar 7th 2013, 7:37 AM

    You cant compare the two. Nani made a clear attempt to control the ball. Eboue lead wit his foot going for a header which he clearly wasnt goin to win.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:48 PM

    Paddy is a langer

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:36 PM

    LOL
    โ€œSteve Bould

    Eboue got sent off for this against United & Fergie said it was โ€œ100% a red cardโ€. Where is the difference???

    Share this and get the Answer and troll those Hypocrite UTD fans Gooners
    Like ยท ยท Share ยท 11 hours ago โ€
    https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/482701_175821529231514_1003944852_n.jpg

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    Mar 7th 2013, 7:38 AM

    If ya cant see the difference you dont deserve to have an opinion on the matter.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:23 PM

    Iโ€™m not Roy Keaneโ€™s biggest fan and I donโ€™t agree with the red card, but i certainly take Royโ€™s opinion on board. When you look at it, it was dangerous play and unfortunately Nani wasnโ€™t aware of his surroundings. Most of the time this would go without incident, but he was really unlucky and could have badly injured the other player. A sending off? I donโ€™t think so, but definitely not an easy decision!

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    Mar 7th 2013, 1:29 AM

    Thatโ€™s the crux of the matter. You get United fans who claim it wasnโ€™t even a foul and others who are in no doubt that it was a deserved red. It was reckless not malicious, and by the rule book it was a yellow minimum. The ref judged Nani not to be taking into account the other playerโ€™s safety and sent him off. His call, and he wasnโ€™t close enough to see where Nani was looking (nor should he have been, he has a line to run along that was nowhere near there).

    Irony of ironies is that Howard Webb failing to send of De Jong in the World Cup Final probably means that this type of incident will always result in a red. Howard Webb the root cause of a bad call against United. Now thatโ€™s a new one.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:27 PM

    Twas a dangerous tackle. A red card. Roy always tells the truth. He may be a bad boy but he tells the truth. In Saipan he told the truth. God bless Roy.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:06 PM

    So if Keane is the only one thinking it was correct decision and the other 99% think it was wrong then does it follow that only 100 people were thinking about it anyway??

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    Mar 6th 2013, 11:57 PM

    My head hurts!

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:43 PM

    Whatever about Keane and Crearand, when your studs hit somebody in the diddy, you are in trouble. Nani was a tit to give the ref the chance to send him off.

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    Mar 7th 2013, 5:30 AM

    As a spurs fan, couldnโ€™t be happier for nani. The way that cheat did us in 2010, it all comes full circle. Anyway, lets all just be thankful nobody took a ball to the head lastnight and died from it.

    Keano for president!

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    Mar 7th 2013, 7:43 AM

    This is why utd fans are the most hated fans in Europe crying. Whinging moaning it was a red card so get over it.

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    Mar 7th 2013, 8:17 AM

    coming from a fan of the city of pity??? Last year it was Oh if we hadnโ€™t hit the crossbar we would be in 4th, then it was if Saurez hadnโ€™t been a racist and served his ban, you would have been in 3rd.
    Prefer to be hated than been a delusional fool, who live off the past. 24 years since a league win, hard to get over than now isnโ€™t it?

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:34 PM

    โ€œNot one person said it was a red cardโ€ โ€ฆthe ref did. Yes bad decision, but utd were 1 up and couldnโ€™t keep their legs together for 30min. Twice.

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    Mar 7th 2013, 2:22 AM

    Manu fans get over yourselves, all this Abu and Liverpool are shite crap is boring the socks of everyone, you give the stick when other clubs suffer but then turn into vile, pathetic sore losers when it happens utdโ€ฆI heard during the game two utd fans say โ€˜I hope he gets a f**king kicking somewhere in manchester tonightโ€™ and โ€˜I hope that bast**d diesโ€™โ€ฆreal class there, I have never heard fans of other clubs going that far (well maybe Chelsea) but it shows the footballing world how pathetic you areโ€ฆyou can give it but canโ€™t take itโ€ฆcop on lads

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    Mar 6th 2013, 11:25 PM

    Tag. Crerand boot roy in the hole???? No effin way. Roy is the champ. Always will be. Sure viera used quake in his boots

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    Mar 7th 2013, 5:34 AM

    O Hear Ye, Hear Ye!!!!! Sorry, Im calling it now, put yeโ€™re keyboards away!

    I checked the rule book and by definition, it was a sending off offence. Check out youtube and youโ€™ll see that as the ball starts to come in his direction, Nani quickly turns his head to the right and sees Arb.

    At this point Nani knows that he has entered into a one on one with an approaching player. He looks back at the ball and as he follows it, he leaps up with his right foot extended, studs facing out.

    Right at the last second where he can see Arb is going to win the ball with his chest, Nani keeps his leg, knee and foot outstretched looking as if to say, Well if hes guna win this, heโ€™ll have to earn it.

    Now Im not a Manu supporter(or a Keane fan) and i hate diving/cheating. But for a player with 20years experience, playing in such an important game and is no stranger to diving himself, to do what he did and look surprised โ€“ he was taking the piss.

    Keano is right. He kept his point simple. One thing that I think is wrong though is that when Nani looked and saw him coming, his choice to proceed the way he did, makes the thing seem intentional, regardless of what he or SAF says.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 11:16 PM

    Roy keane is a bitter tw@t. Heโ€™s raging he was sold by Man U and Paddy in his prime would boot Roy up and down the park.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:41 PM

    In fairness by recent standards of refs in internationals and continental competitions it was a red card. If people have a problem with that they should direct their anger at the likes of Fifa cause theyโ€™re the ones that are turning soccer into a pansies sport with overpaid p***ks that are there just to collect a pay cheque. But Fifa like the controversy because it takes away from the fact that most of the games are boring, that there is a over saturation of matches on tv and that same teams keep on winning the trophies. Soccer is shite compared to 10 years ago and it gets worse every year.

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    Mar 7th 2013, 12:03 AM

    As a Man United fan I thought it was a harsh red card, yellow at the most for it not being intentional and just being an unlucky collision (Iโ€™m also open to the fact that even if it wasnโ€™t intentional that it could still have warranted a red card, thatโ€™s not the point Iโ€m making so donโ€™t bother calling me up on it).

    Iโ€™m also a huge fan of Roy Keane so I was a bit pissed when I saw his comments and thought he was just trying to grab some attention.

    Then last night I saw some footage on youtube, from the midfield elevated camera angle. It clearly shows Nani had a quick glance over his shoulder as the ball was in flight, indicating to me that he did in fact see Arbeloa approaching, then locked his eyes on the ball knowing there was a strong possibility of a collision. As much as I hate to admit it โ€“ Red card offence.

    As for Roy Keane, im still a huge fan, always will be, but if he hadnโ€™t seen that same piece of footage then he probably was looking for attention. If he did see it, why didnโ€™t he make reference to it?

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    Mar 7th 2013, 1:54 AM

    So Paddy Crerand play in a European Cup Final and Roy didnโ€™t , well whoopty do, so did Djimi Traore. The simple fact of the matter is United capitulated when Nani got sent off.
    Simple as.

    What about the respect the ref campaign , glad to see Rio doing his bit for that at the end of the game.

    Hereโ€™s a thought. Fergie was so โ€œdistraughtโ€ at the end of the match he hasnโ€™t spoken to the press yet. Could it be that was his last European game in charge ? Mourinhos comments have been nothing short of a man not wanting to upset his future employers at an interview.

    Think about , United secure a 20th title he goes out on a high and takes over the director role, heโ€™s not going to announce his retirement during the season as he would be afraid of United capitulating again just as they did the last time he did it.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 9:56 PM

    Note to the world outside of the county bounds.
    Ye must know that even the dogs on Pana are highly opinionated and in absolutely no doubt that theโ€™re right all the time.
    What ye have yet to learn is that any response is wasted except for one of these two:
    LANGER ( you got it wrong there boy)
    FAIRDUES (I agree with ya boy)

    And as Mr Herlihy says โ€“ weโ€™ll leave it there then.
    Without these two retorts weโ€™d all be dug outa eachother on a regular basis .

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    Mar 7th 2013, 7:13 AM

    Doesnโ€™t Keane have a UEFA Champions League medal somewhere in his stash ? This guy is an idiot โ€ฆ. And Roy is perfectly entitled to his opinion , I actually agree with him !

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    Mar 7th 2013, 4:10 AM

    What I can gather with most utd fans arguments are that it was never a sending off because his eyes were locked on the ball and that they were โ€œrobbedโ€ and that there has to be โ€œintentโ€. The laws of the game actually state that it has to be deemed dangerous which his high foot could very well be seen as. I think keane is a tossed as well but he has a point in saying that nani should be aware of what is around him and that he gave the ref a chance to send him off. I would have given him a yellow but utd fans have to shut up moaning they get decisions like that for them far more often than they do against them so just chalk it up to karma lads

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:49 PM

    Roy keane has forgotten that sir Alex and man utd saved him from throwing his career away with all the drinking he was doing in his younger years Fergie took under his wing and sorted out his life the same way as he did with Ryan giggs. I donโ€™t believe that keane actually thought that it was a red card but he realises that he is a failed manager so he is trying to be controversial to try and make a career in tv

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    Mar 7th 2013, 8:21 AM

    @aidan gill. Get a life Aidan, if Iโ€™m gonna be bitter about something it certainly ainโ€™t gonna be about football. Couldnโ€™t give a stuff about utd or any one else

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    Mar 7th 2013, 8:36 AM

    @Paddy, press REPLY and you can respond. if you couldnโ€™t give a snuff then why are you commenting on all the United storiesโ€ฆ. maybe its time you stopping snuffing that stuff.

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    Mar 7th 2013, 4:51 AM

    Nani could have killed Arbeloa just like Ashley Williams attempted to murder Van Persie. Karmas a bitch.

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    Mar 7th 2013, 5:57 AM

    Exactly karma. No league title in 24 years for heysel. Karmas a bit@h isnโ€™t it.

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    Mar 7th 2013, 8:39 AM

    Reckless hateful comment โ€ฆ.. hope your proud

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    Mar 7th 2013, 8:44 AM

    Martin are LFC proud of Hysel? Not reckless, only the truth.

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    Mar 7th 2013, 8:50 AM

    The topic of the thread is about Roy Keane & Paddy Crerand โ€ฆ.. your suggesting there is a connection between the premier league and Heysel โ€ฆ.. and yes what happened at Heysel was wrong and should never have happened.

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    Mar 7th 2013, 8:53 AM

    Karma Martin. Thats what I am on about. If you canโ€™t figure it, then I wonโ€™t bother confusing you. This so called topic of Keane and Crerand also includes a reference to hitler, interesting that some fans see that point of view. He shouldnโ€™t have happened either.

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    Mar 7th 2013, 8:59 AM

    Ironic you bring up Karma โ€ฆ. โ€ What goes around, comes around โ€ โ€ฆ.. thats not my quote by the way, it was SFA after the Manchester derby earlier this season.

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    Mar 7th 2013, 9:12 AM

    And he is right Martin. Karma can just go on and on. But then again, there is always โ€œnext yearโ€, not my quote either

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    Mar 7th 2013, 1:09 AM

    Firstly I was a huge Roy Keane fan and Iโ€™ve supported/defended him for years.. Last night was the straw that broke the camels back. Any serious football person will agree it was not a red card! Bitterness/regret etc has driven a true Utd legend to despise a club he once loved. He has truly lost the plot! I must also point out that I think Pat Crerand is an A1 idiot.. But I donโ€™t need Crerand to influence me, unlike Lee Dixon and Gareth southgate on itv last night, I am capable of independent thought.. The ref greatly influenced the outcome of the game, Utd were in control up too the red card. Was the ref to blame for Utdโ€™s loss? To an extent, yes! Chelsea went down to 10 against barca (better team than Real) last year and thrived. Utd reacted poorly to red card and thatโ€™s what cost them the tie. As for Keaneโ€ฆโ€ฆ being controversial doesnโ€™t mean youโ€™re right!

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    Mar 6th 2013, 11:05 PM

    I always said he was not right in the head !! Gifted years ago .. But not right .. God Bless him .. He needs to be minded than laughed at .. Mussha God help him .. He wld love the job but will not ever get it .. Will never be another AF .. No matter what anyone says xx

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    Mar 7th 2013, 8:45 AM

    @aidan gill. Because thereโ€™s no reply to hit under your name is all. I donโ€™t think Iโ€™ve ever commented on a utd story. Maybe I have, either way Iโ€™m not bothered about them. Itโ€™s city n Chelsea I have problems with. Buying leagues. In saying that if arsenal did get taken over by a billionaire sheikh and got us back to winning ways I doubt Iโ€™d be complaining. Take care Aidan

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    Mar 7th 2013, 8:50 AM
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    Mar 7th 2013, 9:10 AM

    Thanks for the last comment too Paddy. I note that it was deleted, really no need for personal attacks.

    BTW โ€“ If you hit the reply button under your comment, it just appends what you want to say under the last persons comment.

    Do note this is a public forum, comments like yours arenโ€™t advisable.

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    Mar 7th 2013, 12:44 PM

    Every time I hear paddy crerand he sounds pissed. When he went on bbc radio morning after the derby he made a total fool of himself and doing no different here

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    Mar 6th 2013, 11:08 PM

    John mullins. Thats unfair. Keane is very grateful for all the luck he has had in his career and he knows he owes a lot to fergie. But like most MEN !!! he is very flawed. Cant admit his mistakes (his falling out with fergie). I am sure, knowing Roy, that he will make his peace with fergie

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    Mar 7th 2013, 12:27 AM

    I used to love Rab C. Nesbitt and his crazy pointless rant. I wonder can you still pick it up on DVDโ€ฆ

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    Mar 7th 2013, 1:38 AM

    Just out of curiosity, was anyone whose posted on here at the match? Utdโ€™s biggest game of the season so would have expected a few to have made the trip over..

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    Mar 6th 2013, 10:44 PM

    So, it appears my previous post was not in order, yet all I asked wasโ€ฆ who is Adrian Russell? Apparently somebody who can moderate and delete posts. Sorry Adrian for using the โ€œfโ€ word, I didnโ€™t know that you were so sensitive. Burt who are you? This is one of the problems with blogs, self-censorship, no editor to look at the bloggerโ€™s writings, and egoism.

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    Mar 6th 2013, 11:01 PM

    Maybe Fergie should sack Nani from the club for his assault on Arbeloa which ensures he will never reach Bob Paisleyโ€™s record of 3 European cups like he wanted Suarez sacked last year. You can buy premierships but you need class to win European cups. YNWA

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    Mar 7th 2013, 12:46 AM

    You know if you rearrange those letters you get : YAWN!!!!

    (Team of the 80โ€ฒs blah blah blah)

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    Mar 7th 2013, 1:50 AM

    Iโ€™ve an acronym for you to work out- GFYS. And Iโ€™m guessing yours is youโ€™ll never win again?? This is a fun game..

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    Mar 7th 2013, 12:14 PM

    Harsh sending off it def was but if you make lunges that high like that then you are leaving the door open to be sent off. Most refs wouldnโ€™t give red but some will and thatโ€™s what happened here. Thems are the breaks.
    People seem to be forgetting about the Real goal that was disallowed in first half that was legit (Ramos unfairly judged to be climbing on Utd player for knock down to Higuaine) and also DaSilvaโ€™s handball to clear a goal bound header in second half. It swing in roundabouts. Some you get some you donโ€™tโ€ฆ.

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    Mar 7th 2013, 7:46 AM
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    Mar 7th 2013, 12:13 PM

    Harsh sending off it def was but if you make lunges that high like that then you are leaving the door open to be sent off. Most refs wouldnโ€™t give red but some will and thatโ€™s what happened here. Thems are the breaks.
    People seem to be forgetting about the Real goal that was disallowed in first half that was legit (Ramos unfairly judged to be climbing on Utd player for knock down to Higuaine) and also DaSilvaโ€™s handball to clear a goal bound header in second half. It swing in roundabouts. Some you get some you donโ€™tโ€ฆ.

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