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‘Does Roy Keane want to be noticed, or is he envious?’ – Paddy Crerand launches into Keano

Old Trafford is a house divided.

Roy Keane on ITV last night.
Roy Keane on ITV last night.
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WHEN YOU DISAGREE with Manchester United, you disagree with Paddy Crerand.

The Old Trafford great — a European Cup winner in 1968 with the club — is now more known for his on-air rants and work as a MUTV presenter.

Today, Crerand was moved to take on former United Roy Keane after the Corkman’s insistence last night that Nani deserved to be sent off against Real Madrid.

‘Roy Keane was in a minority of one,” Crerand told the BBC. “Not one person said it was a red card apart from Roy. Does Roy want to be noticed, or is he envious, jealous or has got the needle with Manchester United because of what happened?”

“Roy Keane is the one person that has come out and stated he should have been sent off, nobody else agrees with him. So why are we talking about Roy Keane? Why aren’t we talking about the other 99 per cent of people who said it wasn’t a sending off.

‘Why are we talking about Roy Keane, because he played for Manchester United? Well let me tell you something. I’ve played for Manchester United, I’ve played in a European Cup final, and Roy didn’t. The referee was wrong.”

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Comments (156 Comments)

  • Keano is entitled to his opinion whether you like it or not is another story. He isnt everyone cup of tea and I wouldn’t lose sleep over what he says.

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  • Joe L 06/03/13 #

    Not a fan of Keane’s but thought the comment from Crerand ” I played in a European Cup final, Roy Kean’s didn’t” was a cheap shot. He may not have played in 99 Cup Final but he bursted a gut to make sure Utd got there irrespective of whether he’d play or not!

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  • What a nasty man Crerand is to have as the voice of the club, casting the fact that Roy didn’t play in the 99cup final. If it wasn’t for him in Turin neither would any of the other 11 who did

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  • Who cares?

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  • Keane will never have anything to do with Man U again it’s a pity he was one of the great united players.

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  • United are this… Liverpool are that, give it a rest , it was a harsh decision and United aren’t used to them but .. If they took any one of the 5 great chances they had, the match was put to bed and we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

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  • Sometimes manu and Ferguson are given a little too much respect. Real won the game, yet mourinho didn’t appear too excited by it (ok he wants the manu job) and Ronaldo was apologetic about his goal (ok ex club). Respect to them both for good behaviour, but feck it, ye just progressed to the next round and deserve your celebrations too! If I was a Real Madrid fan, I’d expect a little more enthusiasm.

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  • Someone should tell Paddy Crerand the only people allowed to give out and insult Roy Keane are the Irish. He is our muppet and we will deal with him.

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  • Typical company man stuff from crerand. Keane is entitled to his opinion. At least he speaks his mind unlike a lot of his peers on itv.

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  • bacoxy 06/03/13 #

    Crerand and Keane are well suited to each other… let them at it cos nothing either says or does will change the result.

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  • Ferguson is the master of manipulation, it’s a compliment in many ways as his whole reaction has us all discussing this Nani decision, not the wasted chances , not Rafaels handball, not the fact he left Rooney on the bench , or on the bench too long (imho) . It’s a bad call but you will see far worse every single weekend in the premiership. He’s a European ref and as ray Houghton was saying German tv pundits all said by the bundesliga it’s a straight red so it’s not as controversial as its being made out

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  • Look the only person to blame is Nani, not the ref as he was the one with the high tackle and studs showing, had it been the other way round he’d probably still be rolling around the grass. Swings and roundabouts lads and its only footy no one died.

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  • As a spurs fan, couldn’t be happier for nani. The way that cheat did us in 2010, it all comes full circle. Anyway, lets all just be thankful nobody took a ball to the head lastnight and died from it.

    Keano for president!

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  • Why all the fuss over Keane’s comments? He gave a perfectly reasonable and logical explanation of his opinion on the sending off. It’s telling that those who are losing the rag at him are simply accusing him of attention-seeking rather than refuting his points.

    If Keane set out to get some headlines for himself, all he would have to do is give an interview and make some ludicrous statement about something or other, all he did last night was call it as he saw it which he is perfectly entitled to do. It was a harsh decision but technically correct in my opinion, I’m sure he can appeal it if they feel like putting their money where their mouth is.

    Crerand’s bitterness towards Roy (and pretty much the entire universe outside MUFC) is pathetic, Keane was a better and more successful player (and manager lol) than he ever was.

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  • Paddy Crerand. Now there’s a man you’d never want to be stuck in an elevator with.

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  • It was a red card, I saw the ref holding it. The ref saw what happened then gave nani red. That’s how football works. Its not always right but the ref isn’t plugged into the 7 angles we see. People complaining are like fat people complaining about McDonalds, cop on and eat your chips.

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  • I’m not Roy Keane’s biggest fan and I don’t agree with the red card, but i certainly take Roy’s opinion on board. When you look at it, it was dangerous play and unfortunately Nani wasn’t aware of his surroundings. Most of the time this would go without incident, but he was really unlucky and could have badly injured the other player. A sending off? I don’t think so, but definitely not an easy decision!

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    • That’s the crux of the matter. You get United fans who claim it wasn’t even a foul and others who are in no doubt that it was a deserved red. It was reckless not malicious, and by the rule book it was a yellow minimum. The ref judged Nani not to be taking into account the other player’s safety and sent him off. His call, and he wasn’t close enough to see where Nani was looking (nor should he have been, he has a line to run along that was nowhere near there).

      Irony of ironies is that Howard Webb failing to send of De Jong in the World Cup Final probably means that this type of incident will always result in a red. Howard Webb the root cause of a bad call against United. Now that’s a new one.

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  • Bored!!!

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  • Paddy Crerand is a muppet. Ironic that he’s ranting about others being contrarian!

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  • Paddy 06/03/13 #

    Ye make me laugh always with this United/Liverpool bitching every time something happens . The fact is as old Benitez says, United get decisions like this all the time and nothing is ever said. Remember Nani against Spurs in 2010 handling the ball then taking it back off Gomez and scoring a goal, Fergie said Gomez should have known better!! United fans like Fergie are the most blinkered fans I’ve ever seen. What goes around comes around. Suck it up and move on. By the way I’m a Gooner so have plenty problems of my own!

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  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH5t58FCs3k

    “In the immediate aftermath of the challenge by the former Arsenal player, Rio Ferdinand was incensed and can clearly be seen urging the referee to take action.

    Nani is also one of the players that approaches the referee but before the Manchester United winger can complain, referee Alan Wiley had already flashed his red card.

    Sir Alex Ferguson made no complaints at the time and the reaction from Manchester United’s players five years ago, specifically Rio Ferdinand, who clapped referee Cuneyt Cakir in the face at full time last night, is rather telling.”
    http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/arsenals-emmanuel-eboue-was-sent-off-at-old-trafford-in-2008-for-a-nani-esque-challenge/

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  • Paddy Crerand playing the man and not the ball – how ironic is that?

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  • Man Utd fans blaming the ref again.. Nani came in with his studs straight into Arbeloa’s chest and deservedly got sent off for it, get over it.. United have had plenty of decisions go their way in the past..

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    • GoGo99 06/03/13 #

      Undeservedly, never a red.

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    • Derek,

      That’s not entirely true is it? I mean I wouldn’t expect anything from an ABU. Nani was going for the ball, his eyes at ALL times were locked on the ball. His foot didn’t hit Arbeloa’s chest, he hit him slight on the left side of his ribs and slightly in the left arm. Nobody went to the ref looking for a red card. Mourinho, 4th official, Real Players, everyone except the ref didn’t think It was a red.

      But hey! That’s football. We move on. When you’re giving your options on a game, at least make them accurate.

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    • I agree with the argument dublinlad. I do think ramos wanted the red card he was all over the referee like a cheap suit.

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    • There doesn’t have to be intent for something to be dangerous. And the fact of the matter is it was dangerous. If it happened to a player on my team, I’d be p*ssed off too though, it was a soft (but justifiable) red card.

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    • Yes it does. Buy yourself a rules book.

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    • Derek, i’m guessing you missed the tackle Arbeloa made on Evra then, huh? He went in studs high and caught him on the leg. Okay Nani’s looked worse because he caught Arbeloa on the chest but if Nani’s tackle was a red card, so was Arbeloa’s. At least Nani was watching the ball and only saw Arbeloa a fraction of a second before making contact with Arbeloa. Arbeloa was looking straight at Evra while he made his challenge.

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    • Andy , you are determined on getting the “intent” doesn’t matter nonsense into the debate , of course it does would you prefer a game with no volley ,over head kick , headers ,50:50 balls , basically no contact ?? your letter of law interpretation betrays a childish view of sport . Btw why are you patrolling UTD related stories makes me think your a closet Man U fan , probably wearing keano Jammi’s ,bless or will you admit you are a liverpoolsupporter with an axe to grind

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  • This is why utd fans are the most hated fans in Europe crying. Whinging moaning it was a red card so get over it.

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    • coming from a fan of the city of pity??? Last year it was Oh if we hadn’t hit the crossbar we would be in 4th, then it was if Saurez hadn’t been a racist and served his ban, you would have been in 3rd.
      Prefer to be hated than been a delusional fool, who live off the past. 24 years since a league win, hard to get over than now isn’t it?

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  • So Paddy Crerand play in a European Cup Final and Roy didn’t , well whoopty do, so did Djimi Traore. The simple fact of the matter is United capitulated when Nani got sent off.
    Simple as.

    What about the respect the ref campaign , glad to see Rio doing his bit for that at the end of the game.

    Here’s a thought. Fergie was so “distraught” at the end of the match he hasn’t spoken to the press yet. Could it be that was his last European game in charge ? Mourinhos comments have been nothing short of a man not wanting to upset his future employers at an interview.

    Think about , United secure a 20th title he goes out on a high and takes over the director role, he’s not going to announce his retirement during the season as he would be afraid of United capitulating again just as they did the last time he did it.

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  • In fairness by recent standards of refs in internationals and continental competitions it was a red card. If people have a problem with that they should direct their anger at the likes of Fifa cause they’re the ones that are turning soccer into a pansies sport with overpaid p***ks that are there just to collect a pay cheque. But Fifa like the controversy because it takes away from the fact that most of the games are boring, that there is a over saturation of matches on tv and that same teams keep on winning the trophies. Soccer is shite compared to 10 years ago and it gets worse every year.

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  • Sending off was a mistake, it happens so get over it! (Im a utd fan)

    To all the liverool fans enjoying the moment, well be back next year to try again unlike some other BIG clubs.

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  • Hes a moron of a man. Best footballer Ireland ever produced but a complete moron…!!

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  • mic d 06/03/13 #

    Coming from a neutral, just watched this challenge a few times over to see what the fuss is all about, defo red card, the kick out and the follow through done it for me. But more to the point that ronaldo fella… What a waster! Should have had 4

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  • Whatever about Keane and Crearand, when your studs hit somebody in the diddy, you are in trouble. Nani was a tit to give the ref the chance to send him off.

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  • LOL
    “Steve Bould

    Eboue got sent off for this against United & Fergie said it was “100% a red card”. Where is the difference???

    Share this and get the Answer and troll those Hypocrite UTD fans Gooners
    Like · · Share · 11 hours ago ”
    https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/482701_175821529231514_1003944852_n.jpg

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  • Every single united fan that is using the red card as an excuse cares. They got beat simple rafael got away with a hand ball so it evens out.

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  • “Not one person said it was a red card” …the ref did. Yes bad decision, but utd were 1 up and couldn’t keep their legs together for 30min. Twice.

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  • O Hear Ye, Hear Ye!!!!! Sorry, Im calling it now, put ye’re keyboards away!

    I checked the rule book and by definition, it was a sending off offence. Check out youtube and you’ll see that as the ball starts to come in his direction, Nani quickly turns his head to the right and sees Arb.

    At this point Nani knows that he has entered into a one on one with an approaching player. He looks back at the ball and as he follows it, he leaps up with his right foot extended, studs facing out.

    Right at the last second where he can see Arb is going to win the ball with his chest, Nani keeps his leg, knee and foot outstretched looking as if to say, Well if hes guna win this, he’ll have to earn it.

    Now Im not a Manu supporter(or a Keane fan) and i hate diving/cheating. But for a player with 20years experience, playing in such an important game and is no stranger to diving himself, to do what he did and look surprised – he was taking the piss.

    Keano is right. He kept his point simple. One thing that I think is wrong though is that when Nani looked and saw him coming, his choice to proceed the way he did, makes the thing seem intentional, regardless of what he or SAF says.

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  • Manu fans get over yourselves, all this Abu and Liverpool are shite crap is boring the socks of everyone, you give the stick when other clubs suffer but then turn into vile, pathetic sore losers when it happens utd…I heard during the game two utd fans say ‘I hope he gets a f**king kicking somewhere in manchester tonight’ and ‘I hope that bast**d dies’…real class there, I have never heard fans of other clubs going that far (well maybe Chelsea) but it shows the footballing world how pathetic you are…you can give it but can’t take it…cop on lads

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  • Paddy is a langer

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  • Funny how Roy Keane’s “opinion” is never worth listening to.
    He likes the limelight and he would say anything to attention.
    Tool.

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  • So if Keane is the only one thinking it was correct decision and the other 99% think it was wrong then does it follow that only 100 people were thinking about it anyway??

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  • What I can gather with most utd fans arguments are that it was never a sending off because his eyes were locked on the ball and that they were “robbed” and that there has to be “intent”. The laws of the game actually state that it has to be deemed dangerous which his high foot could very well be seen as. I think keane is a tossed as well but he has a point in saying that nani should be aware of what is around him and that he gave the ref a chance to send him off. I would have given him a yellow but utd fans have to shut up moaning they get decisions like that for them far more often than they do against them so just chalk it up to karma lads

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  • Keano is looking for attention, Nani shouldn’t have tackled with a high leg and deserved the red he got! What If he had done serious injury, to the mans chest and we’d be having a different conversation!

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    • The key part in this is he came in from behind nani. Never a chance in hell of a serious injury and nani didn’t know about it until there was contact so couldn’t ever in a million yrs have malice or intent or be dangerous. The three key factors in a straight red

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    • True , he could have pulled a gun and shot him as well , where would we be then . Ffs . As anybody ever seen a hurling match with two lads competing for high ball ?? My god , He could have been seriously injured, arboloa had a view and ran onto the ball . i guess fans can say good luck to the concept of their massively paid sporting idols putting their body on the line for the team and the club . Not sure if be a fan of ye’re coot on ball game

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  • Every time I hear paddy crerand he sounds pissed. When he went on bbc radio morning after the derby he made a total fool of himself and doing no different here

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  • Well united fans. He slated the Irish fans for singing. He slated the Irish team when Henry handled the ball. You all loved him and respected him. He had an opinion last night in saying it was dangerous play and nani was right to be sent off. Well well well and that’s all it takes and you hate him. You are all jokers. Your out of the European cup but there is always next year. YNWA 5 Times. Good night and god bless.

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  • As a Man United fan I thought it was a harsh red card, yellow at the most for it not being intentional and just being an unlucky collision (I’m also open to the fact that even if it wasn’t intentional that it could still have warranted a red card, that’s not the point I”m making so don’t bother calling me up on it).

    I’m also a huge fan of Roy Keane so I was a bit pissed when I saw his comments and thought he was just trying to grab some attention.

    Then last night I saw some footage on youtube, from the midfield elevated camera angle. It clearly shows Nani had a quick glance over his shoulder as the ball was in flight, indicating to me that he did in fact see Arbeloa approaching, then locked his eyes on the ball knowing there was a strong possibility of a collision. As much as I hate to admit it – Red card offence.

    As for Roy Keane, im still a huge fan, always will be, but if he hadn’t seen that same piece of footage then he probably was looking for attention. If he did see it, why didn’t he make reference to it?

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  • Doesn’t Keane have a UEFA Champions League medal somewhere in his stash ? This guy is an idiot …. And Roy is perfectly entitled to his opinion , I actually agree with him !

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  • Twas a dangerous tackle. A red card. Roy always tells the truth. He may be a bad boy but he tells the truth. In Saipan he told the truth. God bless Roy.

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  • deirdre 06/03/13 #

    Tag. Crerand boot roy in the hole???? No effin way. Roy is the champ. Always will be. Sure viera used quake in his boots

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  • You tell him Paddy!

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  • Paddy 07/03/13 #

    @aidan gill. Get a life Aidan, if I’m gonna be bitter about something it certainly ain’t gonna be about football. Couldn’t give a stuff about utd or any one else

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    • @Paddy, press REPLY and you can respond. if you couldn’t give a snuff then why are you commenting on all the United stories…. maybe its time you stopping snuffing that stuff.

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  • Nydon 06/03/13 #

    Note to the world outside of the county bounds.
    Ye must know that even the dogs on Pana are highly opinionated and in absolutely no doubt that the’re right all the time.
    What ye have yet to learn is that any response is wasted except for one of these two:
    LANGER ( you got it wrong there boy)
    FAIRDUES (I agree with ya boy)

    And as Mr Herlihy says – we’ll leave it there then.
    Without these two retorts we’d all be dug outa eachother on a regular basis .

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  • Paddy 07/03/13 #

    @aidan gill. Because there’s no reply to hit under your name is all. I don’t think I’ve ever commented on a utd story. Maybe I have, either way I’m not bothered about them. It’s city n Chelsea I have problems with. Buying leagues. In saying that if arsenal did get taken over by a billionaire sheikh and got us back to winning ways I doubt I’d be complaining. Take care Aidan

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  • damo 07/03/13 #

    Nani could have killed Arbeloa just like Ashley Williams attempted to murder Van Persie. Karmas a bitch.

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  • Harsh sending off it def was but if you make lunges that high like that then you are leaving the door open to be sent off. Most refs wouldn’t give red but some will and that’s what happened here. Thems are the breaks.
    People seem to be forgetting about the Real goal that was disallowed in first half that was legit (Ramos unfairly judged to be climbing on Utd player for knock down to Higuaine) and also DaSilva’s handball to clear a goal bound header in second half. It swing in roundabouts. Some you get some you don’t….

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  • Harsh sending off it def was but if you make lunges that high like that then you are leaving the door open to be sent off. Most refs wouldn’t give red but some will and that’s what happened here. Thems are the breaks.
    People seem to be forgetting about the Real goal that was disallowed in first half that was legit (Ramos unfairly judged to be climbing on Utd player for knock down to Higuaine) and also DaSilva’s handball to clear a goal bound header in second half. It swing in roundabouts. Some you get some you don’t….

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  • Firstly I was a huge Roy Keane fan and I’ve supported/defended him for years.. Last night was the straw that broke the camels back. Any serious football person will agree it was not a red card! Bitterness/regret etc has driven a true Utd legend to despise a club he once loved. He has truly lost the plot! I must also point out that I think Pat Crerand is an A1 idiot.. But I don’t need Crerand to influence me, unlike Lee Dixon and Gareth southgate on itv last night, I am capable of independent thought.. The ref greatly influenced the outcome of the game, Utd were in control up too the red card. Was the ref to blame for Utd’s loss? To an extent, yes! Chelsea went down to 10 against barca (better team than Real) last year and thrived. Utd reacted poorly to red card and that’s what cost them the tie. As for Keane…… being controversial doesn’t mean you’re right!

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  • #Tag 06/03/13 #

    Roy keane is a bitter tw@t. He’s raging he was sold by Man U and Paddy in his prime would boot Roy up and down the park.

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  • deirdre 06/03/13 #

    John mullins. Thats unfair. Keane is very grateful for all the luck he has had in his career and he knows he owes a lot to fergie. But like most MEN !!! he is very flawed. Cant admit his mistakes (his falling out with fergie). I am sure, knowing Roy, that he will make his peace with fergie

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  • Just out of curiosity, was anyone whose posted on here at the match? Utd’s biggest game of the season so would have expected a few to have made the trip over..

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  • Stephen 07/03/13 #

    I used to love Rab C. Nesbitt and his crazy pointless rant. I wonder can you still pick it up on DVD…

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  • I always said he was not right in the head !! Gifted years ago .. But not right .. God Bless him .. He needs to be minded than laughed at .. Mussha God help him .. He wld love the job but will not ever get it .. Will never be another AF .. No matter what anyone says xx

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  • Roy keane has forgotten that sir Alex and man utd saved him from throwing his career away with all the drinking he was doing in his younger years Fergie took under his wing and sorted out his life the same way as he did with Ryan giggs. I don’t believe that keane actually thought that it was a red card but he realises that he is a failed manager so he is trying to be controversial to try and make a career in tv

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  • So, it appears my previous post was not in order, yet all I asked was… who is Adrian Russell? Apparently somebody who can moderate and delete posts. Sorry Adrian for using the “f” word, I didn’t know that you were so sensitive. Burt who are you? This is one of the problems with blogs, self-censorship, no editor to look at the blogger’s writings, and egoism.

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