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Women should be inspired by Taylor and female boxers, says Olympic chief

IOC boss Jacques Rogge says the decision to include women’s boxing for the first time has been vindicated.

Taylor with silver medalist Sofya Ochigava on the podium.
Taylor with silver medalist Sofya Ochigava on the podium.
Image: INPHO/Dan Sheridan

THE SUCCESS OF women’s boxing at the Olympics can inspire women to take up sport, said IOC chief Jacques Rogge who believes the decision to include the discipline in the Games has been vindicated.

The 70-year-old Belgian, who is presiding over his final Games as he steps down in September next year after a 12-year reign, was present at the climax to the women’s boxing event when the first three champions were crowned.

“I think I am very happy,” said Rogge. ”There was a lot of criticism of the level of women’s boxing and of their technique prior to the Games. I think we have been vindicated that it was a good decision and it’s only the beginning.”

Women’s boxing was voted into the Games in 2009 after strong lobbying by International Amateur Boxing Association (AIBA) president Dr Ching-Kuo Wu.

“This is the most important day in AIBA history,” said 65-year-old Wu. Rogge could have been forgiven for thinking the competition was taking place in Dublin rather than London as the ExCel arena was covered with Irish flags as fans came to see Katie Taylor take gold in the lightweight division.

Nawal El Moutawakel, IOC vice-president and the Olympic champion in the first running of the women’s 400 metres hurdles in Los Angeles in 1984, was also effusive in her praise of the event.

“It’s very skilful and a wonderful show,” said the 50-year-old Moroccan athletics icon. Rogge, though, wouldn’t put the introduction of women’s boxing at the top of the list of his achievements. Rogge, who places the fight against doping and illegal gambling higher, said that boxing formed part of his campaign to get women a higher profile in sports.

Eastern promise

He is especially proud of having coaxed the last three hold-outs against sending women to the Games — Saudi Arabia, who were threatened with being barred if they didn’t do so, Qatar and Brunei — to breach that barrier at these Games. He said he had been especially moved by the reception 19-year-old Saudi 800m runner Sarah Attar, who has dual Saudi and American citizenship, received from the 80,000 capacity Olympic Stadium crowd despite finishing way behind her rivals.

“The Saudi Arabian runner getting a standing ovation along with our introduction of women’s boxing show we are fighting the right cause,” said the IOC president. ”These are strong messages that reverberate around the world and will hopefully encourage more women to take up sports.”

- © AFP, 2012

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Comments (82 Comments)

  • Get training , get rid of those fat thumbs ;-) jesting
    BTW

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  • Yesterday was the first time in my life that I thought my heart would actually stop ticking. What a fight, what a woman, what an Ambassador for our country and an example to us all. Congrats Katie and best of luck to the lads today.

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  • its not just women who should be inspired by katie, her hard work dedication and achievement is something to be admired regardless of gender.

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  • Six years unbeaten and counting, the pro fight is the next challange. An Angel who can look after herself!!!

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    • This is ridiculous! Encouraging women to fight, even in the context of the Olympics is setting in action a dangerous chain of events which will undoubtedly result in a women being beaten by men, because men see them as fighters! Katie Taylor should not be celebrated, but rather held up as an example of how women confuse men with mixed signals.

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    • Mairead, my hope is that men will see women as human beings, like themselves, who happen to like, and excel at, a myriad of things. In fact, on the evidence, Irish men are taking every bit as much pleasure out of Katie’s excellence at boxing as women are.

      It’s not about the fighting. It’s about the excellence.

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    • Auntie – A woman can be excellent in so many things. Why boxing? To show men that we can fight as well? This sends a message that we are tough and can take a punch! I’m speaking from experience. I suffered abuse from a man who thought I was as tough as Katie Taylor. Wise up!

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    • peter 10/08/12 #

      @Mairead by the way women have taken part in judo, Tae kwon do and wrestling in previous
      ok Olympics. This is not their first involvement in combat sports all Taylor has done is help introduce boxing and then raise the profile. Silly arguments

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    • Peter — Are you suggesting that it is okay to beat women because they have a history of competing in violent, combat sport? Disgusting!

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    • But it’s okay to show women slapping men on soaps almost every week. There is your mixed message . A strong woman is only strong when she physically attacks a man because he has made some transgression. What Katie Taylor did was to show a strong irish women achieve her goals in her own way. It’s sport end of ! Her achievement is not your platform for your views !

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    • Emmett — Encouraging young women (and girls!) that acheivement=success in violence is so perverse. You are encouraging a system which has been PROVEN by psychologists the world over to lead to domestic violence and YES I AGREE, violence (woman on man inlcuded) on TV is just as bad!

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    • So all boxers are more likely to abuse ? Or anybody who takes part in martial arts or wrestling. I’m sorry your views are way out there.

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    • I suspect Mairead is a troll. Nobody thinks like that in this day and age. she probably thinks Miss Universe is a more appropriate environment for young women. Personally I’d rather see women in the ring than being objectified and judged on their looks.

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    • FYI mairead! Katie does box against men, she spars with them in training all the time, how’d ya think she got so good!

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    • Hi Joy – I think you’re a troll. So you’d rather objectify women as violent creatures who fight for respect and challenge men to abuse them. You are SICK!!!

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    • I think there is a vast different between women in the ring, fighting as part of a safe environment. No one should ever resort to violence to intimidate another person, especially an intimate partner. But as a domestic violence worker, I see a massive difference between boxing and domestic violence. Violence in a home is bad. Consenting boxing in an arena where people will stop it if someone feels uncomfortable? Ok.

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    • Thousands of boys and girls younger than 19 years participate in boxing in North America. Although boxing provides benefits for participants, including exercise, self-discipline, and self-confidence, the sport of boxing encourages and rewards deliberate blows to the head and face. Participants in boxing are at risk of head, face, and neck injuries, including chronic and even fatal neurologic injuries. Concussions are one of the most common injuries that occur with boxing. Because of the risk of head and facial injuries, the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Canadian Paediatric Society oppose boxing as a sport for children and adolescents. These organizations recommend that physicians vigorously oppose boxing in youth and encourage patients to participate in alternative sports in which intentional head blows are not central to the sport.

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    • Great. So you don’t like boxing. A 26 year old woman has the right to make her own informed decision. Please don’t be yet another Irish man who tells women that he knows better than them what’s right for their bodies.

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    • @Mick Byrne

      I guarantee that any kid who does a bit of competitive boxing is far healthier than a child who doesn’t exercise at all. Where would you stop Mick? Let’s take Bernad Jackman and John Fogarty of Leinster rugby as an example, both retired due to repeated concussion a couple of seasons ago. I’ve seen plenty of lads playing on with concussions in teams sports at every level, you won’t get that in amateur boxing full stop, if a lad looks like he has a concussion the fight will be stopped immediately. If we follow your argument through to it’s natural conclusion we should should ban rugby as well. What about hurling……my dad lost eight of his front at the age of 18 should be ban that well?

      Obviously every precaution should be taken but we should be encouraging kids to play sport……any sport.

      @Mairead……. even the words you choose show how ignorant you are of the sport. Amateur boxing is so far removed from an actual street fight or domestic violence that I don’t know where to start. Your arguments are incredibly sexist and dismissive of these girls who have made a conscious decision to compete in a very tough sport . I easily count on two hands the number of girls I know who play competitive sport after secondary school. It’s this primitive attitude common throughout Ireland about what is and is not ladylike that has participation of sport amongst women as low as it is.

      The idea that a man is going to look at Katie’s success and somehow go, “you know what maybe I will give that bird a clip in jaw” is so fanciful.

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    • If a man looks at Katie Taylor and decides it’s ok to hit his partner, then that guy already had major issues. And if she wasn’t there, then what? A Chris Brown song might set him off!

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    • Mairead. I’d pay big money to see you in the ring with Katie Taylor. Big money.

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  • Mairead and Mick, back to the dark ages with you. Katie’s currently an amateur boxer, which means that the wearing of protective headgear is compulsory. Maybe you both should read this, and educate yourselves about the sport. Right after you put down those signs that read ‘Down With This Sort Of Thing’, and ‘Careful Now’.

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  • Or maybe it’s that you’re a closet misogynist, Mick, who thinks that Katie and women like her should be pregnant, barefoot and chained to the kitchen sink? Because the whole tone of your posts here smacks of ‘women should be seen and not heard’.

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  • hit the nail on the head there Trisha. he’s obviously intimidated by strong women.

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  • Bless, Mick. You’re trying so hard to project your masculinity here at the expense of the women here. Does the fact that Katie Taylor could possibly kick your arse contribute to your impersonation of Victor Meldrew?

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  • Mick, I would have no problem letting any of my three sons or my daughter get into a boxing ring. It teaches them control and discipline, along with the ability to defend themselves should the need arise. Going on your wails of danger, does that mean I shouldn’t send my youngest son off to train with the local hurling club? Because those hurls are nasty things, y’know.

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  • MIck is obviously an alias. With a facebook page that has just been created for the sole of leaving negative divisive comments on the journal in the hope that another human being will interact with him. And it worked. Well done.

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  • TAYLOR FOR PRESIDENT

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    • Taylor for Sports Minister!

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    • Why would you want a woman who has devoted her life to violence to be president?

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    • @Maireadm Back to the 1950’s with ye. You obviously know nothing about boxing and the skill and tactics involved if you think its just mindless violence as you suggest. Thank god people like you are in the minority. stupid comments like that are setting back the feminist movement decades,

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    • @joy herron
      Are you for real? The object of the game is to beat the shite out of your opponent don’t try and dress it up as anything else and what the hell that has to do with feminism I don’t know.

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    • What it has to do with feminism is that women can excel in any sport. She could take many men in her weight category. I’m sorry if you’re uncomfortable boxing as a sport (that’s your prerogative), but it is a bit ridiculous to make it seem like she’s start street brawls in Bray rather than fighting within a safe environment with stringent competitive rules.

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    • @ Nick Beard
      You are merely trying to justify your love of violence, people die from single blows to the head.

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    • Great, can you point me to statistics on boxer who have died lately in legal matches? I assure you, I don’t have a love of violence. But I think undercutting the achievement of an amazing female sportswoman by a keyboard warrior is a bit ridiculous.

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    • For you NIck
      There are two primary concerns with boxing injuries – acute injury, which can lead to death, and long-term cumulative brain damage. There are numerous cases in which a boxer has died in the ring or shortly after a fight as a result of injuries sustained in the ring. They include Gerald Mclellan, Leavander Johnson, Jimmy Doyle, Duk-Koo Kim (both the referee who officiated the match and Kim’s mother committed suicide in the aftermath), Benny Paret, Randie Carver and female boxer Becky Zerlentes [sources: BBC News, MAX Boxing]. As of December, 2006, more than 1,300 boxers have died as a result of fighting injuries [source: Journal of Combative Sport].

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    • Be careful crossing the road Mick.

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    • And just in case your have any further doubts Nick,
      Many sports have neurologic injury from incidental head contact; however, combat sports allow head contact, and a potential exists for acute and chronic neurologic injuries. Although each combat sport differs in which regions of the body can be used for contact, they are similar in competitor exposure time. Their acute injury rates are similar; thus their injuries can appropriately be considered together. Injuries of all types occur in combat sports, with injuries in between one fifth to one half of all fights in boxing, karate, and tae kwon do. Most boxing injuries are to the head and neck region. In other combat sports, the head and neck region are the second (after the lower limbs) or the first most common injury site.

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    • @noddy mooney
      is that a threat?

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    • No Mick, most certainly not.
      Care to explain how it could be?

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    • Because I live in Wicklow when I am not abroad, Noddy

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    • Still want to know how I could be threatening an anonymous white silouette (with or without a known abode)?

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    • Funny how you don’t mention when those boxing deaths occured….

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  • I think it’s professional boxing they’re calling for a ban on where there’s no protective head gear with consequently greater risk of brain injury. Not 100% sure what their policy is on the amateur side.

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  • Goolge can provide back up for any argument mick, no matter how wrong.

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  • Well said Trisha. Mick your argument is invalid. Anyone else think Mairead and Mick are the same person?

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  • the nature of your unemployment?

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  • cheer up Mick. You have two facebook friends now that I accepted you,

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  • Mjhint 10/08/12 #

    FFS what a waste of a thread. I think theres a lot more afoot here than promoting violence. Mick if your in the Leb for the reasons I think you are I must say respect to you. But & its a big one. Katie Taylor does not promote violence. Shes involved in a contact sport & we are quiet fond of those in Ireland. The GAA promotes them. Also I take account of your medical advise that you have provided & cant argue. Katie may suffer in the future or she may not but all sport is the same. Our very own Craig Breen had an accident in Italy resulting in his co drivers death & that too was a violent death. However Craig or Jaffa definately do not promote violence. So while I understand your thinking I would completely disagree with it.

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  • Personally,never. Putting girls in a boxing ring was frowned on in the 1970s. But the core part of your argument is that we, as a nation, shouldn’t be proud of what all of our boxers and not just Katie Taylor have achieved at the Olympics. You may want to sit in your armchair at home and complain about it, but the rest of us would like to think that Katie can inspire kids in general to strive to do well in whatever sport they choose to take up.

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    • Again I ask how beating the head off another girl is inspiring, perhaps you should be asking was did she take up boxing to get some attention from Dad?

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    • Trying to reduce a national hero to ‘Daddy Issues’?? Pathetic.

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    • That is a pathetic comment Mick, so disrespectful. would you say the same about the John Joe Nevin and the other lads.

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    • I wonder if Katie and John Joe were fighting in judo, wrestling or Tae Kwon Do would there be the same uproar and trollin? Boxing is just the same as rugby, hurling martial arts and other contact sports but it gets more cries of ‘BARBARISM DOWN WITH THIS’ than any of the others. Maybe that’s because it admittedly has more violent and chaotic origins but nowadays amateur boxing is as dangerous as Rugby or GAA. PS Katie Taylor for GOD.

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  • Not even a smoke?

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  • More for you Nick
    The British Medical Association, American Medical Association and Australian Medical Association all have standing policies that call for the complete banning of the sport (Boxing)

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  • Joy,
    you wish to ignore the medical facts that is up to you, if you want to live in a society the promotes violence that is up to you, it is called denial .

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  • I am not in an armchair I am sitting in an Army Camp in Lebanon.

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  • Do you feel pathetic Joy? is that what the smoking is about? Is that your little social crutch?

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