The Score uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Click here to find out more »
Dublin: 11 °C Saturday 18 May, 2013

‘The worst team but the best fans’: here’s what the rest of the world thought of Ireland v Spain

Roy Keane will not approve of the international media’s verdict of last night’s match.

The Irish fans were roundly praised following last night's game.
The Irish fans were roundly praised following last night's game.

LAST NIGHT’S ENCOUNTER between Ireland and Spain was not pretty for supporters of the former side, and today’s international newspapers reflected this.

The Guardian was suitably harsh in emphasising Spain’s level of dominance:

“Ireland play better in adversity? Here, there was only adversity. From the very start, when Torres flashed home his first, the outcome was never in doubt. The doggedness that Trapattoni has instilled served to bring this cherished qualification but it could never work the required miracle to escape a punishing Group C.”

The Daily Telegraph, meanwhile, delivered the type of sentiments that Roy Keane would doubtless disapprove of.

“These fans will be missed. Unlike their team, who were barely noticed.”

AS went further, suggesting that the Irish team “deserve little analysis” given their limited ability.

They singled out Richard Dunne, pointing to his “clumsiness and helplessness” in helping rather than hindering Spain’s progress.

Perhaps exaggerating a tad, Croatian site 24sata claimed Spain could have secured a “double-digit’ victory, but their players instead decided on a “modest” 4-0 scoreline.

Their reporter added that Ireland had “no concentration” in the final third, and gave Iker Casillas virtually nothing to do throughout the entire match.

Meanwhile, Marca was full of praise for the Irish fans, with their website including an article with the title: “The Irish really know how to lose.” The paper added:

“The Irish fans filled three-quarters of Gdansk Arena in the loss to Spain was taken with sportsmanship 4-0. They left the stadium singing as if nothing had happened and they embraced with the Spanish fans, who appreciated the gesture in an atmosphere of brotherhood that was exemplary after the riots in Poland-Russia.”

There is an understandable extra level of focus on Giovanni Trapattoni from Corriere Dello Sport, who write that Ireland were “dominated and outclassed”.

They also focus on the reaction of the Irish press, claiming they “attacked” Trap following the defeat, while putting the Irish side’s game philosophy “on trial”.

Le Monde reports that “the magnitude of the score” reflected the difference in class between the two sides.

They added that Spain “reaffirmed their status as tournament favourites” following their below-par opening display against Italy.

Finally, Bild also praise the Irish fans, describing their singing at the end of the match as a “spine-tingling moment,” and concluding that “Ireland has the worst team – but by far the best fans!”

Read: Going nowhere: Trapattoni vows to continue as Irish manager>

Read: ‘Keane has lost the plot. He should respect Irish fans’ – Dunphy>

Read next:

Comments (60 Comments)

  • We all know the Irish fans are the best – no question but the quality of our football is utter abject shite. We drew our way to the finals & in all likelihood won’t score a goal or even earn a point before Tuesday next. So put singing to one side and purely from a footballing perspective & given our tradition of ultra hard to beat, fight to the death play to our strengths ( limited tho they are) type football of recent years, then the manner of our defeats have been a national disgrace. Seriously. Paul Green? Cox instead of Long? Etc etc. There’s a lot wrong with the national team & that begins with Delaney & Trap. There’s no value in qualifying for tournaments if we don’t even compete. We made Croatia look like Spain & Spain looked like Gods own first 11 on their absolute best night ! Keep singing but for me it’s about the football not the fans vocals – great as they always are. Keane is a spanner but he’s right on this occasion & our fans deserve a lot more to sing about than a hasty exit from the tournament as the whipping boys.

    Reply
    • What would you expect? We have neither a large enough nor money enough to foster the talent that larger countries have. It is obvious that your team is not the most formidable. For me, that’s not the most important point. We work with we have. Croatia was disappointing, yes. But in a game against Spain, the truth was that we were outclassed. The fans turned a humiliation into a cause to celebrate. There’s a lot of bitterness in Ireland at the moment. It’s quite beautiful that the fans there gave us something to be proud about.
      Apologise for the long post, not sober and in a babble mood.

      Reply
    • Right on Setrakian

      Haven’t watched all the qualifiers and isn’t up to speed with current vs. possible squad. That said, wouldn’t any pro IE manager be expected to beat Armenia, Slovakia, FYROM, Andorra (& eventually Estonia)? Fail to see why that should be such a feat for anyone reasonably experienced. Even so, without the Moscow miracle, IE would probably never have gone to Poland at all.

      Watched most of the RTE UkRain break talk today, Richie Sadlier highlighted the language barrier which really is sort of comical for both Trap & Tardelli in public (might not be on the pitch of course). It’s quite a strange marriage, wonder why Trap bother about finishing his career with IE and going at it in such a style?

      Keane was spot on saying those kind of mistakes, allowing 7 goals in 2 matches, most of them blunders, are horrendous at any level, it’s a coaching failure to expose a team in that way.

      One of the Guardian guys on Football Weekly said go for a united Ireland team as a way of finding a future direction here, have NO clue how feasible that may be – but liked the vision, maybe a good way to profile Football towards GAA & Rugby….well. Fascinated foreigner out.

      Reply
    • absolutely agree with every bit of this.why spend 2years breaking your balls traipsing the outer reachs of europe to qualify and then capitulate in such a manner.its not good enough and we need change from the top down.the domestic game is on its knees in ireland at the minute and we cant let the national team go the same way.

      Reply
    • Ya Keane was dead right forget the sing song mentality. Compete… But the whole system needs to change from top to bottom and the fai should be totally reorganised put ppl who know about football in there. Quinn done a good job behind the scene at Sunderland would like to see someone like that instead of Delaney

      Reply
  • paul 15/06/12 #

    Dear God. Can we talk about the football. Most of these guys played premiership football last year, get paid close to 40 grand a week on average and yet…….cant keep the ball?Does this not show how wrong this sport has become?

    Reply
    • Just shows how over rated the premiership is. A lot of the team play for mid ranking teams and can’t hold to the ball for long periods. Maybe we should just send every decent young player to the continent instead of England?

      Reply
    • Please see the bigger picture. The behaviour of the fans will benefit Ireland far more than would have ever done. We are a laughing stock? Absolutely not. We are being lauded.

      Reply
    • Apologies. “far more than a win in this single early game would”

      Reply
    • You’re right Emmett totally overrated. I mean a premiership team could never win the Champions League. Ooops… Well none of the Spanish players would lower their standards to play in it. Where does that blonde lad who scored for Spain play, I can’t remember.

      Reply
    • Paul, our best placed player was gibson 7th best team in pl. Most of our players were involved in the Relegation battle. Others in the championship. Our lead striker plays a similar level in the US, Mcgeady plays europa league level in Russia. Two don’t even have a contract with a club. That’s the reality of the team. We really need our players in mid table or higher in the top leagues if we want to make an impact in finals again.

      Reply
    • I went to Gdansk to see my team win, draw, score or just compete. As did thousands of others. We didn’t see them do that against the greatest team in the world – they seemed afraid of the ball and played below their ability. BTW the Spanish fans were as fantastic as their team – not a hint if triumphalism. The Poles organised things brilliantly. It was a great trip, but make no mistake we didn’t go for a sing-song. We just made the best of a bad situation.

      Reply
    • The fans are great we all know that,but without a good team the fans will have no tournament to go to..our footballers is just over paid players with flashy cars…

      Reply
    • Pig Boy 16/06/12 #

      Jeez they are focussing on our fans ,Trapp needs to get the finger out and give some young players a chance .No talk of retirements either which , to be fair is not helping .Thanks for the memories lads but it is time to move on

      Reply
    • last year we had no players in the champions league. i think spain had nearly 20. that says a lot. btw the fans are an absolute credit to the country

      Reply
  • We would have won only the ref kept pushing over our players.

    Reply
  • What a difference 24 years makes. Back in 1988 (I was only 12, yikes!) we had zero expectations. But a lot of our team played in the top 10 clubs in England, Houghton, McGrath, Whelan, Sheedy, Aldridge, Moran were all first team players at Liverpool / Man U / Everton. We beat England 1-0, drew with Russia 1-1 and were unfortunate to go out to Holland (the eventual winners) 1-0.

    24 years later the majority of our squad are involved at the lower end of the Premier League table or in the first division. Sean St.Ledger who played centre back alongside Dunne can’t get get a regular spot in Leicester’s first 11.

    The crux of it is that the Irish game has gone backwards in 24 years, all the while our expectations have risen considerably. We see our rugby lads stick it up to the Aussies and the English and we expect the exact same in football. But don’t be naive and blame Trappatoni. The FAI has ultimate responsibility for the development of the game in this country and over the last 24 years they have wasted every opportunity to make it better. They pay themselves €450k per year while kids get changed in disused shipping containers with no toilets or showers. Facilities are spartan and there is no real program that seeks to produce quality footballers year in and year out. If you don’t invest in youth and youth academies (like the Spanish have done for decades) then you won’t be able to compete.

    But heh, we’re a nation of only 4 million people and our team is still in the top 20 out of 192 teams in the world. There is certainly room for improvement after last nights performance but what is actually needed is a root and branch overhaul of the youth system in Ireland. Unfortunately the FAI are a bunch of overpaid muppets so don’t hold your breath on it happening anytime soon.

    Reply
    • I think what’s changed in the last 24 years is that Irish players are no longer getting the opportunity to play for the bigger clubs due to the influx of players from all over the world to the premiership. We don’t help ourselves by minimal investment in our schoolboy leagues. Players at 11 are playing on full size pitches which fosters the kick and run attitude instead of two touch pass and move. The emphasis is placed on winning by any means from a very early age rather than learning the skills. Some simple rule changes at underage level could make difference.

      Reply
  • Absolutely the Irish supporters have done us proud, however the Players need to step up to the mark and be more competitive. Supporters deserve more than 3-1 and 4-0……..

    Reply
  • ole ole. we lost abysmally, but the Irish showed we always back the team , regardless.

    Reply
  • Yep, the fans were the definite winners!

    Reply
  • Don’t give me the small country bit how big is Croatia.i have watched Spanish football at national and club level for twenty something years.what you saw last night was started in the eighties at Barca .I believe Spain has the highest number of qualified coaches in Europe. Ireland was on the receiving end of a football display from the best team on the planet playing close to their optimum.The big positive for me was the respect shown by Spain by going after Ireland from kick off to the end,they could have put on a demo for the last fifteen minutes but there was no showboating just total concentration to the end.

    Reply
  • So why comment Seany ? You must care as you went to the trouble to make your comments although entirely negative ones about not caring! I think you do care – way more than your letting on! I care that you don’t care ~ you should care – so …….there! So back to my initial question Seany – care to answer? On 2nd thoughts don’t bother – I no longer care that u don’t care!

    Reply
  • To be honest I don’t think most people found that impressive, more obnoxious!!

    Reply
  • Well I think both sides of people comments here make lot of sense. Fans were great, but also expectations were bit higher than what the players showed. But please be realistic look where Spanish team players play daily and where Irish players. Not even 1 Irish player in the top 5 of premiership teams and not even 1 in any decent continental Europe club. Torres alone is probably worth more money than whole Irish team together. Its like different world. Croatia only looked vulnerable they are very strong team in fact, great attack. Irish just don’t have players.

    Reply
  • Best fans in the WORLD!!!! bar none , but deff the worst team performance wise in the tournament so far

    Reply
  • We need an academy , a centre of excellence, run by someone who knows how to play the game properly, by which I mean like Spain play. It is 24 years sinc euro 88 and the dawn of the big bucks flowing into the FAI, if we
    Had started then with our kids imagine what would b coming through now, so let’s take the lesson we were given last night and learn from it, then Managers of the future won’t have to ” make do ” wit inferior players. If you disagree , then you must believe that an 8 yr old in barsalona, or Amsterdam, is a better plate than an 8yr old from Ballinasloe orAthlone , no he is not but he will be in ten years time, so it’s the moulding and proper coaching of our youth we have to look at and change our direction, radically, Tempest fugit .

    Reply
  • Have to agree with you there Ray. Karswell – I’d expect that our team was made up of players who firstly play for at least a club unlike Green ; start players who have form such as Long, Walters, McClean etc unlike Doyle, Cox & Keane and lastly that they’d be organised well enough to not look like a disparate group of no hopers from the very first whistle of the first match. Sure we got a really tough group & I didn’t hold out much hope of us progressing to the quarters but I didn’t think we’d play like 11 guys who’d just met up for the first time ever to play a match. They were that bad. The only players that came away with any pride were Given & Andrews. As for selecting Green & Whelan well the mind truly boggles! Great fans – yep ; proud of their contribution but the Eurovision was over weeks ago ~ this was about the football teams performance and to that end there wasn’t one.

    Reply
  • Only in Ireland to we criticise our supporters for supporting

    Reply
  • Oh ye and then wreck the place right??

    Reply
  • ambassadors to a great country that will always hold their heads high with pride. cos they are Irish,

    Reply
  • If they were so proud of being Russian, why was the banner in English?!

    Reply
  • The singing wasn’t about football it was about being Irish. A nation stood together and took a moment to be heard. So what no harm done? We will be remembered for it. Kind of like the quartet that continued to play as the titanic sunk. I really believe people were singing because they knew we were screwed and that they would be returning to a country in dire straits with no end in sight ..

    Reply
  • I’m fed up with this bullshit ‘ aren’t we great fans ! ‘ it’s a given get over it , but how many of them actually are watching what’s going on the pitch ! Time for a complete overhaul in Irish football

    Reply
    • I can’t accept your flippant comment about the fans. The Bild got it right when they said it was a spine-tingling moment at the end. Yes, the team ff-ed up but by god did the fans show real humility in the face of humiliation. They didn’t sing for the good of their health. There was a clear purpose there that separates us from the rest of Europe. Touch you to all who sang, well done.

      Reply
  • a banner from hell

    Reply
  • Hello from Germany,
    I think you should not mix up fan’s behavior with what is necessary to improve the performance of your players. Same did Roy Keane, in a way, and this critisism goes to the wrong direction. It was your fans that made me visit this website, and they even made youtube comments worth reading. ;-) They are great ambassadors for your country. This to the fans.
    Concerning football I agree with Derek. A small country has to support those rare young talents as good as possible to create great players. And if conditions for kids in Ireland are like he described, then this is a point to deal with.
    I hope you will find solutions for this problem, so that we all can enjoy the Ireland team AND fans in a big tournament for more than just three matches!

    Reply
  • Gerry, I agree that a fully focused approach could provide quality in the long term but in the meantime what? The main issue is the goal set for the manager. If it is to get to finals and ignore the consequences, expect a continuation of present approaches. If it is to be able to win finals, then wait a long time. Our players deserve 100% respect. They stood tall knowing they were in a very difficult place.

    Reply
  • Fans were great. The team will have to beef up a bit more and do some proper training. The Spannish team were built like ox’s! Build our team up like some of the GAA lads!

    Reply
    • Gerard 15/06/12 #

      Who on the Spanish team is built like an ox? They’re all small and lightning fast and Ireland just weren’t fit or skillful enough

      Reply
    • ronmart 15/06/12 #

      Spanish oxen

      Reply
    • Gaa is for players who have to use hands playing soccer. When Ireland starts investing in proper sports only then you can expect better results. All you have to do is take a look at Spanish football academies and then look at Irish..and you want results??? On a different note Ireland still have Long,Cox;)

      Reply
    • I was watching the Irish under 18 squad training last year! I couldn’t believe how it was all about getting rid of the ball and booting it up the field as quickly as possible! This kind of football belongs to the last century!

      Reply
    • Ed Walsh 16/06/12 #

      Iniesta, silva, xavi, fabregas….not exactly the first people you’d be sending for drug testing….the Irish lads have plenty of meat on them. What they lack is the footballing brain that the other nations are instilled with from a young age.

      Reply
  • Why are a lot of comments being deleted

    Reply
  • @Paul. I don’t agree with you. Is that ok (to the editor ) it doesn’t matter what league you play in or how much you get paid. We played the greatest national team to play the game EVER. We seen some of the best players EVER. We tried our best and failed. No shame in that. Would you rathe the fans booed us every time we played

    Reply
  • Do

    Reply
  • Keano

    Reply
  • The FAI needs to be done away with and a new body set up to find young players encourage and support them as is done in other countries like another commenter here says establish a school of excellence, while we have such a small pool of players to pick from why pay top money for a manager and his aides, it doesn’t matter who we have as manager at the moment if we haven’t got the players we will never do well, the Irish supporters are great ambassadors for our country but I think Roy Keane has a point while we have the best fans in the world why celebrate loosing

    Reply
  • So we lost to the best team in the world whom have a bigger tradition of football than us and a strong domestic league . players did the best they could , fair play to fans who travel whom know we can’t win the tournament and sing through defeats .

    Reply
  • Yeah the banner was cute. xxx

    Reply
  • I just realised that half of the people commenting here don’t support a team and have no interest in soccer. They have nothin better to do than TRY talk about soccer. Hahahaha.

    Reply
  • Worse team . enough said.
    Irish fans had a good session. fair play to them.
    soccer tournament= yes.
    singalong= no.
    great the supporters over there had the craic.
    blaa blaa I don’t care.

    Reply
  • Nai
    Bitting finish

    Reply

Add New Comment