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Opinion: It’s time for Rob Penney to make the hard calls and drop Ronan O’Gara

Ian Keatley has a better chance to saving Munster’s Heineken Cup season, according to the Whiff of Cordite guys.

Munster's Ronan O'Gara.
Munster's Ronan O'Gara.
Image: INPHO/Billy Stickland

Reproduced with permission from Whiff of Cordite

AFTER THE HEINEKEN Cup double-headers in December, we thought that Ulster were virtually guaranteed a knock-out slot, Leinster were pretty much gone, and that Munster had a pretty decent shot at a best runners-up slot.

They had 11 points in the bag and had upcoming games against Scottish patsies Edinburgh and flouncing Parisians RM92 at home — both glaring try bonus opportunities.

And the try bonus point is most relevant — 19 points looks like it might not be enough, but 21 will almost certainly do it. They managed to get four tries at home to Embra, and looked threatening in Paris first time out. Sure, they didn’t come close to the whitewash against Sarries, but hey, it was Saturday Night Fever in Thomond — who wants tries when you can have penalties slotted between the posts through cold foggy air and the tears of the assembled press box in near-deathly silence?

Here’s a problem though – in the aforementioned early rounds, master orchestra conductor, curer of the lepers and Lion-designate Ronan O’Gara (© Conor George) was playing close-ish to the gainline and looking like he was buying into the Rob Penney Barbarimunster masterplan. In the Saracens double-header, he played a little bit further back — but needs must and the five points gained were what was required.

But since then, Rog has drifted further and further back to the point were he was almost 15m behind the gainline in the recent Cardiff workout.

Sure, his tactical kicking might have been as pinpoint as ever, but who cares when it’s exactly what the opposition want — Cardiff won their line-outs, kept the ball intelligently and won the match at their leisure.

How can Munster score tries if their opponents have the ball?

This followed an inability to get a try-scoring bonus point against Ulster’s 2.5th team – another occasion when O’Gara was nearly stepping on Felix Jones’ toes.

How can Munster expect to score four tries in two successive games without the ball, and with an outhalf who looks like he is no longer even going through the motions of playing the gameplan his coach wants him to? It’s not all O’Gara’s fault of course, but he has virtually full control over his position on the pitch, and he isn’t attacking the line.

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Tough calls: Rob Penney. Pic: INPHO/Dan Sheridan

It’s far from a home run that Keatley is of the required quality to be the future of the 10 shirt at Munster, but that’s not necessarily the relevant question to be asking; the only important issue is whether Munster have a better chance of beating Edinburgh by four tries with Keatley or O’Gara at 10.  This isn’t necessarily clear-cut, but Keatley is a quick, strong fly-half with a decent running game, as well as being a strong defender.

Against that, ROG is more experienced, a better place kicker and better kicker from hand.  But with tries the requirement, it might be time to lean towards Keatley.  Such a move would inevitably be met with a media scrum, and Penney is presumably aware of this.

But it’s time for tough calls.

What do you think?

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Comments (25 Comments)

  • F$%k it , give Keatly a shot , Munster don’t need to kick for the corners , they need to blitz Edinburgh with attack play to score tries.

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  • Disappointed that Hanrahan hasnt been given more gametime. If he was in another country I wonder would he be held back.

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  • The problem for Penney is that ROG never gets injured (which I am incredibly grateful for!) so at some stage he HAS to drop him! The other legends (POC & BOD) have a nice few injuries allowing the younger players to get more game time and regular starting XV slots! I think Keats deserves his chance! #SUAF

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  • Not disagreeing with the general thrust of this article, perhaps Keats is due a run in a big H Cup game, but it is a tad unfair to implicate ROG for the bonus point failure in the Ulster game, as he only came on for last 15-20 mins,

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  • Time waits for no man and the same is true for ROG. It’s time to freshen things up and give Keatly an extended run. O’Gara is a living legend but I would rather remember his legacy than be left with memories of how far of the pace he has become this season. And I’m a Munster man before a the short sighted masses get carried away with Red Thumbs.

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    • DaVe O'm 10/01/13 #

      There does need to be a phasing out of ROG but I’m not 100% Keatley is the answer as indicated in the above article, Hanrahan looks more like the long term solution. Penny and Kidney are trying to have ROG on the bench as an impact sub but I think in HC the first 20mins are so intense and critical that his experience is required. Both Ireland and Munster have been hammered out of the blocks in a number of games this year. In terms of the two Saracens games I think the article ignores the amount of time Saracens spent offside and the ebb in form of Murray.
      That said I do think that Keatley could be looked at at 12 if he can play an interchangeable role with ROG

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  • Give it to Keatley he is an all round player and out half!

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  • People can’t seem to see the wood from the trees when it comes to ROG.

    A fantastic servant he has been, probably Ireland’s best ever 10, but the rule changes in 2010 have all but nullified the game-plan and style of play he was most suited to, and at 35 he is incapable of sufficiently modify his game to meet current demands.

    Kick and clap rugby is finished. And no mater how many times he shows us his ability to measure a kick to the sidelines (they don’t get anywhere near the corners anymore), that does not change the fact that opposition, ala cardiff on Saturday, are only delighted when he does.

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    • Spot on, except you can’t say anything about Munster on here without their fans taking it personally

      ROG was a fabulous player, but rugby has moved on/developed differently etc. you can’t be just a kicking out half anymore, you can’t afford to keep giving the ball back to the opposition.

      ROG isn’t capable to running the team from ball in hand, he looks so uncomfortable when he has to push right up to the line and his passing isn’t quick or good enough for that type of game.

      I suspect Penney is hoping that he’ll retire/go into coaching in the summer, but in reality he needs to be decisive and act now or get left behind playing rugby from 10 years ago

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  • the fact that he has the experience is what makes ronan essential to the team. Sure keatley might be better at running with the ball but o gara will act as the conductor and if he preforms as well as he did against cardiff then he will def be the man to pick if we all no he is the better kicker then how can we possibly blame him?its down to the others around him to be scoring the actual tries. Keatley is a fantastic player but wont get better if at the end of a below average season he is thrown into the deep end. Just say for example penny does start him in the next two matches ahead of o gara and munster do fall at the last hurdle, what will that do for him? he will get all the b;lame and thats a fact. at least with o gara he is that little bit more reliable and realistically he wont be munsters 1st choice next season. let o gara finish what he has started. Let ian continue to keep learning from irelands best ever out half. Let the entire team do the talking and not just blame one man. If munster really see themselfs as one of europes heavy weights then they must battle through adversity. #whatareyoumadeofmunster

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  • Another boring ROG bashing article. Why don’t you offer us some proper analysis on Keatley and give us some of the alternatives that he can offer instead of this tripe that you call Journalism???

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    • big call . I wouldn’t drop rog yet. Cometh the hour cometh the man . Keatley has been playing ok but nothing to day wow drop rog. Top 2 10s.are still sexton ages ROG. The other pretenders have yet to step up to the top level

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    • Marty 09/01/13 #

      They have yet to be given a chance. Lately when ROG is playing, only ROG scores.

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    • Cometh the hour cometh the man? Well if that’s the reason for playing rog answer me this where was the man for the past 4 seasons?
      If Munster want try’s they need to play either JJ or Keats, if it’s simply win the game then rog is the safest bet. Either way this team are not capable of winning the cup this year so if the plan is to win in the future then why not put the players in place and let them grow.

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  • I think JJ will overtake Keatley and take the 10 jersey next season. ROG has been the outstanding 10 in world rugby for years. On the pitch, he gives a masterclass and young players can look on in awe. Sexton is not even close to ROG at his best. However his day is coming to an end, not yet but not too far away. Thanks for all the years of 100% effort for Munster and Ireland. A legend of Irish rugby who’ll be remembered for much more than his winning kick in Cardiff for the Grand Slam.

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  • They can both play in same team
    Maybe write a similar article about your
    Leinster crowd

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  • Another boring ROG Bashing article. Why don’t you offer us some proper analysis on Keatley and the alternatives that he can offer instead of this tripe that you call Journalism!

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    • Keatley can tackle, ROG can’t. Saracens went through ROG all day in Vicarage Rd. Keatley can break, ROG can’t. Opposition defences find it much easier to defend against him. As seen against Saracens and Cardiff all his tactical kicking does these days is give the opposition back the ball. The game has changed and Munster don’t have the pack to protect ROG anymore. He’s 35 and needs to realise that he’s no longer as good as he thinks he is. Keatley may not be the long term future, but right now he’s a better option.

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    • maybe you should read some of this bloggers other articles before leaving that tripe you call a comment.

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  • Brian 09/01/13 #

    Maybe its time for munster to drop rob penny

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    • What a stupid statement penny is coming into the biggest transition period in Munster rugby in 15 years and doing quite well at it he will be judged on season 3 onwards, would take a total collapse to see him out of the job before 2014-15 season

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    • Go easy now, but in fairness i’m not a massive fan of Simon Mannix their backs coach, nothing has changed there since the kidney days,same old tripe ….

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