and his first signing will be Shevchenko

Haha Shevchenko and Torres upfront. Imagine he two of them trying to hide when a penalty is awarded!

His first signing will be himself…..and he will play all 11 positions and also the subs!!!!!!!!!

Shevchenko was (is?) a brilliant player, was great for Milan and Ukraine – pity Roman had to ruin things

how exactly did he ruin things?

By going against the managers wishes and buying him. Forcing him into a team that was built around drogba and his style of play. Jose never wanted him and I doubt Mr Chelsea John Terry was happy to share the limelight

Hmmm let me see. 5 year contract on 5 million a year minimum then get sacked after 5 months and negotiate a payoff of around 15 million. I’ll do it.

Nutjob

When ypu think back they paid FC Porto 14 million to get AVB, had him for six months then probably paid him 10 million plus to end his contract. So he cost them up on 25 million for 6 months work(give or take a few million). What a joke.

and look what hes doing at spurs after being given a time to implement his ideas at the club. Abramovich is a law unto himself, for a billonaire he really doesn’t have a grasp of management.

In fairness, there was a huge amount of bad blood between him and the Chelsea fans from when he was Liverpool manager. On day 1 it was about as popular as when George Graham was appointed Spurs manager. So it wasn’t just the Di Matteo sacking.

I guess he’s found out that the Chelsea fans have passion after all.

I can’t see him in charge of another Chelsea match, never mind to the end of the season.

Now, Big Sam reckons The Special One is on his way back. That’s when it could get interesting.

That club doesn’t even deserve Christian gross, jean tigana or juande Ramos. Jokers the whole lot of them, I have more respect for utd fans and that’s a lot coming from me

When you own the club run it the way you like, Chelsea have won how many trophies since he bought them?? He’s ruthless, so what! Quit your whining!

Are you talking about actual Chelsea fans or the bandwagon jumpers of the last few years? I guess it’s been a lot easier to get bolshy with a manager and lose patience easily if they only started following a team because of new money and resulting success. The game sure ain’t what it used to be…

Yeah… I mean what has Roman done for Chelsea?

Exactly Ally.
There’s only one person causing the problems at Chelsea, but the fans won’t admit it. He’ll just throw another few million at a player.
Who has sacked all the managers? And who appointed those managers to begin with?

He has been successful with Chelsea no matter what his methods. He still wins trophies.

Shane, how much has he spent to buy a few trophies?
How much in managers alone?
With the amount he has spent, he should have a lot more to show for his trouble.

But before him what had they won?

Apart from sanitation, security, public health, the roads…….

the aquaduct!!!

Couldn’t agree more. Walk away from that circus of a club.

I know he’s probably earning a shed load of cash there and with the way they sack managers it’s not even a blot on his CV being there for such a short time but I still think it was a terrible decision by both parties, especially by Rafa!

As one of only a few Chelsea fans, I must say what’s going on is a joke. lost count of the number of managers at this stage

I’m with you David. I’m a Chelsea fan aswel and think its a disgrace mind you I’d say Rafa just saw it as a payday

Why don’t Chelsea fans abuse Roman instead of Rafa! Afraid! Incase Roman pulls out! He never gets abused for any sacking! Fickle!

Brendan nail on the head

The Chelsea fans are such muppets. I never thought I’d agree with Rafa the fat gaffa in my life but I do tonight.

Walk away Rafa..horrible club,horrible owner and the most horrible racist, biggoted so called fans that ever existed.

Spot on Harry

Said it in one Brendan. I work in SW2 so I have to endure alot of this rubbish from Chelsea fans about Rafa. They’re way too afraid to go on the attack of the clubs owners or else they’ll be back playing in a run down miserable pitch and being a nothing club once again. He hasn’t even managed to get them their dream stadium because he seemingly can’t buy the council for permission.

Look at every Champion’s League winning manager over the last 10 years. Look how many have been managers of Chelsea. Says a lot about Abramovich’s stupidity and arrogance.

It was the ‘Chelsea Pitch Owners’ (fans/shareholders own pitch to protect against property developers) who put plans for a new stadium, lets say, on hold.

Come back when you tell me who was the first English club to qualify for European football.

Aidan… English football clubs have entered European association football competitions (UEFA Champions League/European Cup, UEFA Cup/Inter-Cities Fairs Cup, UEFA Intertoto Cup and the now defunct UEFA Cup Winners Cup) since 1955, when Birmingham City and London XI took part in the inaugural Inter-Cities Fairs Cup. The European Cup started in 1955?56, but there was no English representative during that inaugural season as Chelsea had been persuaded to withdraw by The Football League… according to Wikipedia anyway. So Chelsea qualified but didn’t turn up??? Highlight of your history that!

Aidan,
Are you saying that they happened to win something when the decision was made that English clubs would play in Europe?
What a ridiculous response.

Chelsea qualified, weren’t given permission by The FA to play. Hence first English club to qualify for European Football.

Can’t argue with the truth lads.

They have plenty of history, they’ve just forgotten it.

Aidan,
How did the qualify?
Did they make the decision all by themselves?
Did They just decide all by themselves..
“I think we’ll qualify for Europe this year.”
“But English clubs don’t play in Europe”
“well, that’s it then, we’re qualified…”
Dear God Aidan, the hole has been dug now. Leave the shovel to one side.
Step away from the shovel.

Chelsea, as champions of England, qualified for the European Cup. The draw was made, Chelsea due to play a team from Sweden, FA intervenes. Is it that hard for you to understand Danny?

You say as many derogatory remarks, red thumbs, doesn’t matter. Chelsea were the first English club to qualify for European football. Not United, Liverpool, Arsenal, City. Chelsea.

Now Aidan, go back and read my first post again.
I’ll quote it for you, just incase it’s too much bother…
“Are you saying that they won something when the decision was made that English clubs would play in Europe?”
You’ve just confirmed exactly what I said.
They happened to be in the right place when the decision was made. Is this the best you can come up with? Did they win it that Year? No? So what are you on about. Nottingham Forest have 2 european cups.
Now, Step away from the shovel.

Also Aidan,
They were given permission to play, as all clubs do now.
EUFA five 4 places to the English FA. Its completely up to the FA who they put forward to the competition.
If the FA decide to give the 4 places to the teams at the too of the red card league, that would be up to them.
They give the places to the top 4 clubs in the league, but they don’t have to.
So, yes, the FA do give permission to all clubs to play in Europe. They cannot play in these competitions without the FA’s say so.

Nail on the head.

Few questions here Danny, I’ll make it nice and easy for ya.

1. Did I say they won the European Cup?
2. Did I mention anything other than qualification?
3. Should the Champions of England be called a team that “won something”?
4. Would you call being told you’re not allowed play in something you fairly qualified for as “being in the right place at the right time”?
5. Would you say that being the first club to qualify for European Football is not a part of history?
6. What do Forest have to do with this? Only 8 or so clubs off the top of my head have won it more times.

Oh Aidan,
Basically, what I’m saying is, if they won the league in the first year that English clubs were invited, it’s just a coincidence. The club the year before was just as qualified to play in the competition.
It’s not some big thing to brag about.
Now, Forest, they have something to brag about. 2 cups.
If you want to claim this as some big achievement, fair play to you. I actually don’t care. And I’m sure that only CFC fans would care. The rest of us are laughing at this great achievement.

True point, but still Chelsea were the first English team to qualify for Europe. Being the first English club to qualify is history. Someone said Chelsea have no history, so I stated a part of the club’s history, proving that there is history.

I could have given you a report on what it was like to see greats like Peter Osgood and Charlie Cooke in action, or the old shed, the numerous FA Cup wins that meant the world to the club, winning the old Division 2, the days of Zola, Robbie Di Matteo and co. that were a joy to watch. These were all amazing things I have witnessed, and are the reason for my love of Chelsea Football Club.

Some chose clubs because they won European Cups, Leagues, year in, year out. But in my day I picked tiny Chelsea. It was easy to support them until Roman came, now to see the club get the abuse it does is hard to watch.

Mourinho’s Chelsea is history too. “You have no history” is a typical response of either Liverpool or Man Utd fans. Whatever their methods, Chelsea have history and are creating history. Even last year. Chelsea won the Champions League final without their captain and without a permanent manager!

Took them long enough

And what about the glorious national front history? Nicely air brushed out these days I see. Every club has history, some more glorious than others. But if a certain wealthy Russian hadn’t bestowed such wealth on Chelsea they would be no different to Preston NE or wolves these days.

Tell me which was the first English club to win a European trophy? To save you looking it up I can tell you it was Spurs!

Aldershot Niall

Niall and Alan – Chelsea qualified for the Champions League in 2003 without Roman’s millions, so would obviously be bigger than those clubs today without him.

Tony, fair play to Spurs, that’s a part of history that can never be taken away from them. Just like the first club to qualify for Europe.

Aidan, they would be out of business. They were almost bankrupt when the Russian took over, debt to the tune of almost £100m which was huge money 10 years ago, especially for a club a few years earlier only had an average attendance of about 18000

No chance, £80m in debt. Debt isn’t a bad thing if you can pay it off, which Chelsea would have done. Take it from someone who was regularly at matches during the time.

And false, average attendance in 2003 was 39770. – over 200% your presumption.

I see you said a few years earlier though, but since 1995 average attendances have been at least 25000, so argument is flawed.

If i took the job. The first thing id do is sell the pair of them straight away.

LFC fans turned on ‘king Kenny’ fairly sharp ish when thngs started going wrong so remember that when you’re climbing down of that high horse!

LFC fans never turned on KK, get it right. They still chant his name.

Sorry Dave.
Anfield never turned on Kenny.
The only manager that they did go against with a passion was Roy. He put his foot in it from the very first interview and continued with gaff after gaff right up until the first ball was kicked at the start of the season.

They didn’t turn on Kenny but they did boo the team off the pitch with him at the helm so relative to his status that was a sort of attack. When united fans are saying “give Kenny a lifetime contract please” then you know the wrong man is in the job!

@ John, I wouldn’t welcome Rafa back to Anfield. And there’s a lot more like me.

I would be very surprised if he even tought about it.

I do not like chelsea football club, but if, as I think may be the case, the oligarch and the special one have come to an agreement whereby the former provides cash and nothing else and the latter manages the football side of it, then they could become formidable again.

Jamie, that won’t happen with Abramivich in charge. He has more miney than football sense and he wants too much control. No point having a football manager if you won’t let him nanage.

*money!

Rodgers is the man for Liverpool

If he was we wud be a better team…. Its that simple… I’m sick of saying our year next year..

Was he? He’s well rid of them I think. Onwards and upwards Rafa!

Not a hope sunshine. Even Roman wouldn’t appoint the most despised player in football to the role.

Eh one champions league trophy, one premier league trophy in the last 6 seasons. Since 2006. 2 Billion pounds spent. FAIL

Last 8 years:
3 Premier Leagues
1 Champions League
4 FA Cups

Add to this Champions League Runner-up, 4 time semi finalists, plus mickey mouse cups like League Cup and Charity Shield, tell me Chelsea aren’t successful?

Plus far less than £2bn spent, don’t know where you got that number from.

Didn’t see them objecting to signing Torres and or bellyaching over Abram’c chasing Gerrard for the last decade, though.

Torres or Gerrard never said a bad word about Chelsea FC. Rafa made comments about there being no atmosphere at the Bridge, needing plastic flags etc. Add to this his spat with Drogba, and you have yourself a very dislikeable person.

Plus Abramovich wanted Gerrard for a year, maybe two. Not the last decade.

Chelsea would have won shag-all without that oligarch’s billions. I don’t care what anybody says, most people can’t stand the club and for good reason. When the Russian walks then the house of cards won’t be long toppling over.

Money is everything in football nowadays, no team would win anything without it.

Michael, Chelsea were on the verge of bankruptcy when he took them over

Rafa wasn’t lying when he said there is no atmosphere at the bridge. Awful awful crowd where the away fans are often louder.

But you said above ‘it’s all about success’. Fernando has hardly been ‘all about success’ to justify the club paying £50 million for him. True, he may not have bad mouthed the club but if it really is all about success, then shouldn’t they be equally pissed off at him for not doing his job properly?

Search this thing called the Internet. Give it a shot. Where u get ur stats ? Ur back pocket ?

Aidan,
Of you’re going to use the quote about the atmosphere at Anfield for a reason to hate the man, try to read the entire quote…
“We don’t need to give away flags for our fans to wave – our supporters are always there with their hearts, and that is all we need. It’s the passion of the fans that helps to win matches – not flags.”
Here’s the quote that hangs on the wall at Melwood training centre. The actual quote mind, not the other versions that did the rounds.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/22/article-2236795-16265F8D000005DC-347_634x702.jpg

The quote is about Anfield and also You can’t deny that flags were given out at Stamford bridge. Why else was that done, other than to create an atmosphere. Why would you try to create one if there is one to begin with?

I’m assuming that you also wouldn’t now welcome Jose Mourinho back to the Bridge. After all he did say this…
“I felt the power of Anfield, it was magnificent”

It’s a stupid reason for Chelsea fans to dislike Rafa. He was only stating the obvious. Even the Special on agreed.

Alan – Chelsea weren’t “on the verge” of bankruptcy

Niall – absolute garbage. One question. Ever been to a game at the Bridge? If so which game. I’m sure you’ve heard the Bridge sing We know what we are this season, happens every match.

Deborah – find me a Chelsea fan that wants Fernando Torres at the club next season.

Danny – Again, ever been to a match at the Bridge? Obviously flags were given to add an extra edge to the occasions of big European nights. It’s brilliant seeing the stands covered in the flags, don’t tell me it isn’t.

Yes José said Anfield had a magnificent atmosphere, everyone knows that. Just because he said it was great doesn’t mean he thought SB “had no atmosphere”. If I drive a BMW and I see a Ferrari and I say it’s magnificent, does that mean I think my BMW is a heap of scrap?

It actually isn’t Aidan. It’s quite pathetic actually. It gives the impression to the outside world that the club don’t trust the fans to bring proper flags and banners.
You do remember the A4 printed pieces of paper used by CFC fans in Rafa’s first match?
The funniest one was when Torres joined. A lovely new flag was in the stands. Except, they couldn’t quite trust themselves to think of an original one, so they copied the Anfield one, and changed the colour.
One problem, it still had the Shankly Gates at each side. The fans, thinking that it was just a design at the sides hadn’t realised the significance.

Yes they were, twice. 82 and again in 03. Quick google search will show loads of sites that will confirm it……http://bit.ly/Z0ZuhE

Well that’s a matter of opinion Danny. I see you backed down on the José quote all of a sudden, I wonder why that is?

Yes they were on the verge of bankruptcy in 83, I thought the club was gone to be honest. But that has nothing to do with Roman, as your comment stated. Again, in 2003 there was never really any worry, the club never really looked like going under.

Sorry Aidan if you think I backed down, I didn’t. Mourinho said it. Have a look for yourself.
What did you think of the A4 posters and the Torres flag? Did you realise that the Shankly gates were on it?

Mourinho never said a bad word about Stamford Bridge. Why don’t you give me a link to a video/piece of this imaginary interview?

There was less than 10 A4 posters. You’re labelling the millions of Chelsea fans by less than 10 people’s actions, who just happened to be at the corner flag, a coincidence you could call it, you seem to be into coincidences.

The banner was purposely just blue instead of red. It wouldn’t have got Liverpool fans as angry if there was just a blue flag with El Nino written on it.

Ah, I see. The Shankly gates were on purpose?
Is that why they sang the Torres song too?

Are you denying the existence of that banner.
No Liverpool fan got angry over that banner, was quite hysterical actually

Still waiting for the link to Mourinho’s interview about there being no atmosphere at Stamford Bridge by the way.

When did I deny its existence? Again, a few fans, not the whole worldwide fan base.

Ah, we’re very sensitive Aidan.
You see, Mourinho did say ” I felt the power of Anfield and it was magnificent.”, didn’t he?
In the exact same way that Rafa was talking about Anfield not Stamford bridge, I can easily twist Mourinhos words to say he thought Anfield had a better atmosphere.
The point is, the quote that you read on the CFC websites attributed to Rafa is twisted as well. He never used the words “stupid flags..” Either. But someone decided that this was about SB, when it was was only about Anfield.
Any thoughts on the fans using an Anfield song when they couldn’t come up with one themselves?
I’ll have to answer any posts in the morning. Bed is calling. Night all.

Yes José said that, I said he did an hour ago – “Yes José said Anfield had a magnificent atmosphere, everyone knows that.” And to clear it up I meant everyone knows Anfield has an amazing atmosphere.

Rafa disrespected Chelsea fans. He did. Full stop. Whether his comments were the truth or not, he still disrespected the fans, and he has paid for it.

Ahh and finally you decide you have to give in that your Mourinho story is first class manure. “Easily twist the words”. So what you’re saying is he didn’t actually say it? Shocking. So Chelsea fans should hate Mourinho because he said Anfield was magnificent on the night of a Champions League semi final, probably one of the biggest games at Anfield in the last 20 years.

Don’t tell me Rafa’s comments weren’t about SB. Is it just another “coincidence” that he happened to be talking about flags in the build up to a Champions League semi final v Chelsea? Undefendable. I never said he talked about “stupid flags”. Show me this twisted quote that’s on CFC websites.

Singing “Fernando Torres, whoever’s number 9″ isn’t exactly the work of Johnny Logan in fairness. It’s just an easy song to sing. If United win the Champions League this year I’m sure they’ll start singing “We know what we are”, and Chelsea fans won’t be crying about it that’s sure.

Another coincidence that you go to bed when you crack on your Mourinho story, good night.

Awful yeh. Remember when he won the Champions League with Djimi Traore? Disgraceful.

Hear, hear. But I think he was way out of his depth wih Abramovich who changes managers like other people change their shirts.

Sorry Dave I can’t resist this. To back up my earlier point, he win the champions league with this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyT445MueNc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

You may also remember he won a La Liga title with Valencia. He did this with players like Mista, Ruben Baraja and David Albelda. Remember those names? I didn’t think so. Not exactly key figures in the game. Who were they up against? Real Madrid. Who had Luis Figo, Balon D’or winner and World record transfer from Barca, Zinedine Zidane, Balon D’or, World Cup winner and in some eyes the greatest ever and again a world record transfer, Ronaldo, Balon D’or winner, golden boot winner at World Cup 2002 and all time World cup top goalscorer, David Beckham, a key player in the greatest team the Premier League has ever produced, Real madrid legend, and all time champions league top goalscorer Raul and Iker Casillas who at 20 had won every domestic honour available to him and who recently picked up another European Championshils medal to go with his other two international medals.

Rafa won the league beating all of these guys. All of them. To call him an awful manager, well, its just silly if you dont mind me saying so.

He also done absolutely nothing with Mourinho’s treble winning Inter, and that was in the fairly recent past. Valencia must be a decade ago now?

Not exactly nothing. He won the club world cup. But admittedly this was a poor spell at a club. Inter haven’t recovered from that season.

I don’t really see what difference it makes that Valencia was almost a decade ago (that was 03/04). Its still an incredible achievement. He wasn’t exactly a dud at Liverpool either. A champions league, a final of another two years later, an FA cup, Liverpools only meaningful title challenge since the fall of the Berlin wall. Look at the state of Liverpool since he went.

What he did with Valencia and Liverpool is incredible. You cant write that off just because he struggled with Inter who in fairness onlu ever rose to any prominence because of the Italian match fixing scandal. They had the pick of the best players in Italy and won the league by default for several years. but eventually the other teams recovered and Inter returned to their dismal state they were awoken from with the relegation of Juventus.

Benitez has achieved amazing things in football. And that’s a fact!

As Rafa’s ego grew his management skills went the other way.

I really think comparing trophy cabinets with Liverpool isn’t the best idea there Aidan.

Haha clearly not, just another interesting fact I thought I’d share and get lambasted for :P

Gonna have to green thumb that just for the sheer gall of it!

The first English team to qualify for the European cup. Well f#ck me I’ve heard it all now. That’s your argument for your clubs history. And in 1955 Liverpool were in the second division. What’s that got to do with anything. Any idea what they won over the next 30 years. What about united over the last 20 years. That’s history. 3 league titles, ONE European cup and 4 FA cup in FIFTY YEARS doesn’t make history. Even if United win nothing over the next 50 years they will still have about 10 times the trophies you plastic flag waving joke of a club will have. And I’m not a united supporter.

I couldn’t resist this one.

In 1901, Liverpool FC celebrated their first league title.

4 years later in 1905, Chelsea FC were formed.

Any more little bits of history you want to throw Aidan?
;-)

Aidan you are getting lambasted cos you come across as a bit of a d**k to be honest.

Danny – that’s a bit like saying Roger Federer isn’t a tennis great because he didn’t win anything in the seventies.

Well Niall if a man gets labelled a “dick” for defending his favourite team speaking 100% truth, I don’t know what the world is coming to.

Nobody on here knows CFC like I do. No one here has held a season ticket at Stamford Bridge like I have. In fact, in all probability nobody here has ever held a season ticket at any Premier League club.

People here just think in their heads that Chelsea were a solid 12th place team for 98 years, winning nothing, until Roman came along. Anyone who knows more about football will tell you the truth.

Chelsea FC, forever the minority, forever uncared.

We ain’t got no history.

Think you have justified his label in that post to be fair!

Again Alan it’s the truth. A lot of people don’t understand Chelsea Football Club, I do.

Oh dear,
Never crossed the line.
You obviously think that having your Goal keeper sent off and a penalty awarded would have been better?
Because that was the choice the ref had. He decided that allowing the goal to stand would have been fairer on Chelsea.
But, of course, you seem to have or gotten that little detail.
;-)

My apologies..
“Their goal keeper”
And
“Forgotten”

Ha Danny. I was waiting for that one somewhere in here.