Brian Kerr is starting to look like a footballing genius.

Trap seems to be getting a much easier ride than his predecessors.

Maybe it was easier to fire a man on a couple of hundred Grand than someone on the guts of ?2m.

Guardiola’s still available. (A man can dream)

John Delaneys son is hot favourite for the job, he is supposed to be a tactical genius at some soccer manager computer game. He virtually took Ireland all the way to the semi-finals in Rio, now Delaney wants to make it a reality.

hope rte doesnt think about cutting Sadliers air time after his argument with old man Brady! he knows his stuff and speaks his mind a bit like Dunphy, great pundit imo

Kazakhstan was a good distance, maybe Brazil is just too far.

Check out Richard Sadlier putting it up to Liam Brady yesterday…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIR-_eXihpA

He took us as far as he could about halfway through qualifying for the Euros, we’ve gone backwards since.

trap would be alright if he played the best players we have in the right positions

Funny how Giles and Brady won’t criticize trap. Brady used to work for the fan and i met glee and delaney out boozing once. fair play to Sadlier.

Dont think delaney knows the meaning of the word
?reality? wat with that salary!

I think Trap has come as far with the Irish team as he is going to go. He restored the Irish brand to some degree of respectability steadied the ship and got very good work rates from limited players. The problem is the system has been found out totally. Every team we play against knows how to exploit it now and the main problem is the lack of a plan B. The 442 formation has become redundant in the international game. Most set ups now play with 5 in midfield and we could easily do that given the players we have. Ireland needs to rebuild with the younger players it has as most teams have to do eventually. Clearly Trap is not the man to do that. A better man manger is required to get the most from what we have. I would thank Trap for rebuilding the confidence in the set up at a difficult time for Irish football but the reality is his tenure has now expired.

Everyone is saying it’s great he got us to the euro’s but what’s the point in getting to a major tournament and then being humiliated the way we were, score 1and concede 9.

Not much of a football fan but I can see he offers no inspiration or passion to the team. The FAI is also to blame. They’re appear to be totally disinterested in our international game.

Martin O’Neill?

What’s Harry Rednapp doing next week!!?

Forde
Coleman. Clark. Wilson. Foley
Hoolahan. Gibson. Ireland. McClean
Doyle. Long

SUBS= Pilkington, S.Reid, Pilkington,

Notice anything suspicious about this squad??????

2 WORDS “TRAP OUT”…….We’ll soon be ranked 142 in these Mickey Mouse placings. All we want is the best and not to be a joke of a team….I want to be singing “COME ON YE BOYS IN GREEN” while sipping on a rum and coke in Rio for 2014 :)

We’ve a great selection of average players but with the right manger we can make it happen. Trap has lost the plot and our best player will probably never play for us after his Twitter comment. Not all the players have lost respect for him but there is something not right there.

When he managed the Italian team in 2002 and were knocked out by the Koreans, he’s pig headed and will stick with Keane, Cox, Whelan, Green and McShane…. It’s going to be a disaster but proove all of us wrong Trap !

Bring in Brendan Rodgers when he gets sacked from Liverpool? oh wait the FAI will never get rid of him, it’s all about the $$$$$$$$

Westwood
Coleman St. Ledger Dunne O’Shea
McGeady Andrews McCarty McLean
Doyle Long

Subs:
Hoolahan, Clake, Keane (just to come on and take penalties)

Any one who walks out on a team doesn’t deserve to wear the Green Jersey ever again

Yes and bring back big Mick or give it to his assistant.

Trap did well getting Ireland to the euros but since then he has shown a distinct lack of imagination and a total lack of a plan B.

There also seems to be an unwillingness to blood younger players unless forced to.

The fact is for several years Ireland were playing beyond the sum of their parts and when the bubble bursts it’s not easy for the fans to accept.

Look he’s making some ridiculous decisions selection wise and if he’s not willing to change them asap he has to go.

HOWEVER, this fickleness is becoming scary. Mick mcarthy and brian kerr were ousted in the exact same way. An angry mob after a few bad results. What happened to “in trap we trust”, that was only two months ago. We need to make a decision here and accept responsibility for it . There were very little ppl here complaining right before the euros started.

Never liked the man. No respect for the players or the country as a whole. And we get THIS for 1.5 million a year?! Disgraceful.

What is everyone’s problem with Westwood?

Our biggest problem seems to be the fans don’t know what they’re talking about.

Everyone bigging up Doyle now? Everyone was calling for his head in the last qualifiers.

Make up your mind. We are becoming like England. Our fans get hysterical when we are not winning 20-0.

The man WAS no doubt one of the greatest managers but football has changed, he to stuck in his ways, we have the players to play a more attractive style of football,
forde,

o’shea, dunne, clarke, coleman
Mc Geedy, Mc carthy, mc Clean,
Ireland
Cox long

Nicholas, I think your point is fair about losing the dressing room but I think that some players have fed into the negative public and particularly the media commentary. Disaffected players now believe they can influence Trap’s departure. McClean wouldn’t have pulled that stunt with Martin O’Neill. I stand by my comments about the players abilities. Look at the ones left out. Gibson & Stokes both have always had attitude and have you ever seen either play well for Ireland. Hoolohan always liked him with Shelbourne but he’s 30 now. Plinkington journeyman no better than players in the team and worse than most. Coleman would like to see him included but he’s not getting any game time with Everton. It is just worth checking the records and see the players available to us since about ’74. The current players are a pretty weak selection.

Last point on this. You’re right about Whelan he’s so slow it looks as if he’s running under water. But Stephen Ireland – you can’t blame Trap for that. He refused to play under Kerr (Kerr didn’t play him in an under17 match in Cobh). He played a few times for Staunton and then refused to play for him. He also refused to play for Don Givens (friendly match). He is a finely balanced character with a chip on each shoulder.

He plays a defensive style of football, this dosent make sense, our defense is we we are at our weakest, our best players are our attacking players where we have some great young exciting talent but since trap has completely lost it he dosent realise it. We should be playing to our strengths but our manager is too stubborn to change his ways. Sure he has a lot of experience but it’s been a long time since he had any success. The game has changed immensely since then and traps knowledge if the game is still in the 90′s . Personally I think it’s good that some of our great ls have retired because it gives a chance to have a new team grow into a proper international set up but we also need a new manager to grow with the players and develop them as internationals. Not an old style minded manager who will retire in two years and couldn’t care less about the team after he goes. He is looking for a retirement fund, not a legacy anymore. He already has his legacy.

The pope for manager please. He is Gods right hand man on earth and can apparently talk directly to him so Im told.

Not sure. Have they been to timbuktu?

People on this don’t have a clue. Calling for the style of football to be changed. Changed to what exactly? No alternative has been suggested. We have limited players and a small squad get over the style of play you’d think we had messi and Ronaldo available the way people are talking. We won playing shite most teams would take that.

Anyone who thinks that this group of limited players can compete at international level by playing attractive attacking football is a moron.

In the starting line up against Kazakhstan we had four championship players, two MLS players and a goalkeeper who cant get a game for Sunderland.

Now maybe I’m missing something here but to my mind, this is not a line up that can reasonably be expected to compete with the top level international sides for any great period of time.

Richard Dunne would have started for O’Dea if fit. Thats one guaranteed change.

In an ideal world Simon Cox would not have played left wing.

These are two obvious changes. Whatever way you look at it any remaining changes do not greatly enhance the quality of the team. They may improve it but not to any huge extent
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Stephen Kelly in at RB and John O’Shea at LB perhaps. McGeady LW with James McLean or Seamus Coleman RW and any two from Kevin Doyle, Johnny Walters and Shane Long.

After that we’ve little or nothing that will get the “attractive football” that people are using as a stick to beat the manager over the head with.

Who do we replace him with?

Any half decent manager with more than two brain cells can see that this is a group of players of limited talent. Mr Trapattoni should be given an award for getting this group of players to the fnals of a major championships.

It is understandable that people may not like his style of play, unless we start employing miracle workers as manager of the Irish senior international manager I fail to see how the team will improve to any great degree whether or not the present managr stays in place.

Yes the style of play is awful but what about results. Whether people like it or not the team has made significant progress under Trap. Before his arrival we failed to even make the play-offs in the previous 3 competitions. In Brian Kerr’s last foray we finished fourth ( yes fourth – Ireland had never previously finished fourth). Under Staunton we descended into being a frightened rabble – a full 6 points behind the second team. Trap made us a team again. We reached the play- offs in his first campaign failing to qualify against France in very controversial circumstances. In his second we reached the Euros for only the second time in our history. It might be convenient to believe that without this old Italian we would be spraying the ball around like Barcelona and winning all round but that is fantasy. This is, player for player, the weakest Irish team since the early 70′s. This team would be relegated if we played in the premiership. It’s easy to play attractive football and get beaten. Look at West Ham in their last relegation season. Seems to me Trap took one look at these players, didn’t fancy them and decided to make us difficult to beat. I’m sure we could play differently under another manager but this team is at the limits of its ability.

I think under the right management we can still push for qualification of major tournaments playing decent football.
I would say if the right guy approached Stephen Ireland he could be convinced to return. Let be honest despite his past mistakes he’s still a quality creative player when his head is right. He also gives us more options in team formations.

My squad for Euro 2016 qualifiers – Lets go with youth!

Westwood (He needs to get first team football though)
Wilson, Clark, Coleman, Duffy, Kelly
O Dea, St Ledger, O shea, O Brien
Robbie Brady, Coleman, Mclean, Ireland, Mcgeady, Pilkington, Gibson, Whelan, Noble (In the past he showed an interest)
Long, Walters, Cox, Doyle, Stokes, (Cillian Sheridan as back-up)

I reckon in a year we’ll be looking for a new manager and for me Mick McCarthy would be the lowest risk best option. Tried and tested, brings through youth, wants to play football, and no Roy Keane to worry about.

He’s a manager, not a magician.

The sooner accept we’re crap at soccer, always have been and always will be, we’ll be a happier nation. We need to accept out position in the lower echelons of world soccer.

Ireland are simply boring to watch, i would rather we failed playing exciting football and bring through new players than qualify playing the way we are playing now. Ireland has no future under Trap, once all the senior players retire we are doomed. No harm missing out on a couple of finals and try get it right.

Westwood
O’Shea. Dunne. Clark. Wilson
Coleman. Gibson McCarthy McClean
Ireland
Long

SUBS= Forde, St Ledger, Kelly, Andrews, McGeady, Doyle, Keane & Walters

In my eyes this has to be the squad for every qualifier!!

A lot of the customers in the pub say we should stop knocking Trap. Hes doing well with the bunch of players he has.

We failed miserably in the euro’s but our group ended up having the 2 finalists in it. Last night’s match was rubbish but 3 pts are 3 pts. Leave Trap there till end of qualifiers

The man’s a genius. Hope he extends his contract. He has got us to European Championships when others couldn’t.

Irish football is same rubbish like Polish. Polish tools barely draw with Montenegro, lol, and just had coach changed recently as the other was sacked after Euro 2012 bad perfornance. New man promised heaven yeah right…we can see now. This proves what I have been always saying: even Alex Ferguson and Murinho together won’t make great team of useless players. Change to whatever coach you want and they still will lose any random game with half decent team. Maybe can beat Azerbaijan if they have really good day.

12 percent of people who voted in this poll are deluded!

It seems a very important point is missing in all Trap was turned us around and did build us into a solid side difficult to beat without ever playing free flowing football but effective. I do sit in the Trap has us as far as he can camp.
Playing for your country should be unquestionable, so the important missing point I believe Trap’s old school approach doesn’t help with the modern day footballer(of which a lot is wrong) where International football actually isn’t the pinnacle anymore and international managers should be adaptive and encouraging to develop international squads.