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Opinion: New Zealand ‘hammering’ enough to end Kidney reign

Humiliating defeat marks the end of a long, hard season. It’s time to start anew.

Image: ©INPHO/Billy Stickland

‘YOU COME AT the king, you best not miss.’ – Omar Little, The Wire.

When Ireland came within minutes of a historic result seven days ago, this was the unspoken fear.

The All Blacks, the World Champions, took stock and unleashed an early torrent of Aaron Cruden inspired napalm upon Ireland.

The folly of a third test against the most unforgiving team on the planet was written large.  New Zealand’s intent had been well highlighted beforehand, too.

The one positive we can take from this tour is that – for seven days at least – New Zealand truly respected us a threat. It could be seen in their sudden shock at our drinking behaviour (it was no different in the World Cup and they thought we were great craic) and the media hatchet job on Kevin McLaughlin. They were mildly concerned, so they pulled out all the stops.

In response, Ireland rocked up from Queenstown with talk of close calls and going one better. Sean O’Brien managed to accidentally prophecise:

“There’s no point in putting out a performance like last week and then going out and getting hockeyed this week.”

Well, Seanie: that’s what we did.

A season which began with four consecutive defeats, ends with a little symmetry. But it’s the big fat zero that is most troubling.

It’s a little over five years since Ireland last failed to register a single score. On that occasion Eddie O’Sullivan brought a shadow squad to Argentina, one of a litany of mistakes in the summer before the 2007 World Cup. We were sent packing 16 – 0 from the Velez Sarsfield stadium confident that wrongs would be put right in the autumn. It was the beginning of the end.

It’s been a long, long season; seven wins from 19 this term. The above tweet from Hick sums up the pressure now honing in on Declan Kidney. For all the brilliance he seemed to inspire last week and against Australia in Eden Park, these are blips; exceptions that prove the rule that Kidney’s time as an Ireland coach should now reach a necessary end.

Since he delivered two Heineken Cups to Munster and a long-awaited Grand Slam to Ireland, the game has changed. Experimental laws have become plain old laws. Kidney’s favoured style of rugby is past its sell-by date and though he makes the right noises about moving forward, it’s not in his DNA.

This morning, speaking to Sky Sports, he was unusually clear and forthright

“They played well, but there were times we let them play well.” He said.

“We made too many turnovers, if you look at the first 20 minutes of all three tests it was completely different.”

Hammering

Kidney was asked to comment on his favourite subject, positive spin. He mentioned aspects like; giving youth its chance, and blooding a spare prop, but even he found them hollow words and hinted that many of the young faces could ‘fall by the wayside’ after this tour. He then stepped back from the faux-silver lining to state:

“They won all the collisions – it was our job to front up to them and we didn’t do it.  I’m not going to try and make up for what was a hammering.”

Having delivered a rare trophy to these shores, perhaps he deserves a golden handshake to end his contract. Perhaps he shouldn’t have to resign. Maybe the only thing that will convince the IRFU to take drastic measures will be empty seats during the traditionally money-spinning autumn internationals.

While the prospect of the Sprngboks will, no doubt, draw a crowd. The thought of a Jekyll and Hyde Ireland facing Argentina in mid-winter will not inspire anyone to dig deep into their pockets. Who knows?

Blip

You could say, it would be harsh on Kidney to pass judgment after three tests against the World Champions. We all fully expected to lose all three tests, and there were even some exciting decisions made by the coach early in the tour.

However, just like the good results he can conjure up and the brief period when New Zealand respected us enough to use underhand off-field tactics, they turn out to be no more than blips.

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Comments (64 Comments)

  • Time for a change. One big performance every year for the last 3 years, no consistency, no capitalisation on provinces success. Wales have 3 grand slams in last 9 years, are they really that much better than us? Kidney did well to get Eddie O’Sullivan’s team over the line for the GS in 2009, since then it’s been consistent under achievement. We are better then this.

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  • I, for one, am overjoyed. Because although I am 58 and played my last game of rugby 18 years ago, if Paddy Wallace can get an Irish cap, I’m not giving up hope.

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  • Since the grand slam there has been a steady decline in the teams fortunes. Form players within the squad are ignored and undermined by kidneys selections. What was paddy Wallace doing on the pitch when you had McFadden , earls , cave , sexton in the original touring party. Peter O’Mahoney is one for the future but you had Chris Henry there who is a proven no.8 with ulster. Kidney has to go!

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    • i agree with you when you say we have been in decline.But earls,cave,sexton are not inside centres. fergus mcfadden is the future at inside centre but its hard to put him at inside centre if hes not being started for leinster at 12 in the big HC games.Also henry was only an average 8 ,he has to be fair to him been a very good 7 for ulster and has been in brilliant form throughout the season.

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    • Paddy Wallace = Paul McShane of rugby.
      We must be the only country in rugby/soccer that hands out 100 caps so often,
      Its harder to get off the Irish squad than on it!

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  • It is a sad fact that most great sporting careers end in failure. The hardest thing of all is to know when you should move on. The IRFU should do the decent thing by Kidney and retire him now before his acheivements become completely overshadowed by his failures. Time to put in a younger man to take the team to the next world cup. Joel Schmid comes to mind.

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  • Sesal. Get off the computer and go clean your room.

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  • Kidney has got to go, bringing Paddy Wallace back in should be the final nail in his coffin!!

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  • paddy Wallace? Floodgates open.shit but we know this any way

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  • Kidney should have went last year. It’s a pathetic style of rugby he makes them play. He has survived on his Munster glory and stevie wonder would have won a grand slam with that team but he should have taken more than two H cups and 1 grand slam. Kidney won’t walk and he won’t be sacked so the autumn series will not be worth looking or ward to. There will be no six nations either!!!

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  • I really hope Sesal is a Dublin hurling fan

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  • Kidney has not changed anything since they won the the 6 nation. A few new players. I think that was more down to injury tho. The whole team structure looks old. It need a shake up. I’d like to see Conor oshea.

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  • Looking at replacements … If its an Irish person – Conor o Shea did great stuff in the RFU with young players and has been brill at Quins both with young players , mentality and style of play nnOther Irish that would be floated would be Elwood, Bradley possibly Mark McCall from Sarries … None would appeal nnLooking abroad … John Kirwan – former AB, coached Japan and got them playing a good running game despite obvious limitations nnWayne Smith – working at chiefs ATM as an assistant backs coach an has them playin unbelievably … Refused England backs coach but maybe full role would tempt him? nnJoe Schmidt – has said he won’t leave Leinster and will prob be looking for super 15 job next year nnI’d stay away from mallet (reminds me of Trap seems to be obsessed with defence as best attack) and Cheka (just don’t like him) nnO Shea or smith please

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  • It’s been a disappointing year for Irish sport on the international stage. GAA is our national sport and something to be proud of but should not be compared to our rugby or soccer teams. I think a shakeup is needed in both our rugby and soccer teams, not because Kidney And Trapattoni aren’t up to the job but I think they’ve both come as far as they can in the over 4 years they’ve both been in their respective jobs

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  • jrbmc 23/06/12 #

    Sesal – toole by name tool by nature !

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  • Not going to lie, I missed George Hooks input after this match. Would have been interesting to say the least.

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  • It’s been a long season for both Ulster and Leinster. Kidney has contributed hugely to Irish rugby. I would hate to see his career remembered in a negative light, saying that it’s time for him to move on and be remembered for what he is an Irish great!! The game has changed hugely and in my opinion I don’t think kidney is up to it, the change that is! Rugby is getting faster the hits are bigger and a good team requires a bench that is as strong as the starting team! I think the irfu need to bring in someone who will to rebuild the squad completely and look towards the world cup.

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  • I have had doubts about Kidney since before the Grand Slam. Can’t understand the calling up of P. Wallace who is not good enough for Test Rugby, the terrible treatment dished out to A. Trimble (who most definitely is; probably our most consistent player in last 5 years & has never played badly for Ireland), the ignoring of at least three Ulster players who should be starting (Gilroy, Cave and Henry), the laboured back player that’s telegraphed moves in advance, it’s shambolic etc. This is what I wrote before the series. http://loadsofballs.com/blog/no-to-ulster/ and http://loadsofballs.com/blog/enough-already. Kidney needs to resign for his own legacy and to allow this side progress.(PS Munster man born and bred and I can see all of above. Time to take the blinkers off.

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  • Elrat take two Leinster players out ( darcy and heaslip) replace them with two munster players and we get a 57 point swing. Just saying Elrat. nBut then getting a right hammering is nothing new to the Munster boys this year is it

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  • Lads people seem to forget how bad Ireland were before Kidney got them. He brought a serious unity to the squad between players of different provinces. I think there is something bigger going on in the camp than bad management and I am not too sure if it’s hasty to be pointing fingers at Kidney! Let’s not forget the long season they are out of either. I am not saying something must not change, I just would urge caution in making knee jerk decisions.

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    • I agree that we shouldn’t forget kidneys achievement but I really think its a natural change point he’s brought what he can and I think someone new to phase in new players and new style for RWC 15 Re the long season while I agree that it has been very long for NH teams with RWC, straight into domestic league HCup 6N playoffs for club comp and now tour I still think that’s no excuse for desperate performance today … Wales had a similar length season except for playoffs and they haven’t been thrashed this tour

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    • The players are obviously tired they have been going for twelve months this horse is being flogged to death I like kidney as a coach but people around him should have said let’s have a think about this maybe it is a bad idea maybe the players do need a rest not like soccer were people fall over there own shadows these boys take some serious hits and they should have a good recovery time

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    • Diarmuid. Read the excellent article above and you will see that his record isn’t as good as you think. Definitely time for him to go.

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  • Elrat 23/06/12 #

    Kidney being told what to do by the Blazers – simple. By the way where is that fool now who said the Leinster team would beat the ABs?

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    • Again it’s not a provincial thing, I wear an Ireland jersey when they play and who is from what team matters not a jot. If they were all from ulster I’d still stand up and applaud. That’s the difference between rugby an hurling o toole so please continue commentating away and hope that you spend so much time doing it you can’t enjoy your hurling. And yes it does hurt and so it should when you lose, drives you to get better.

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  • Give him time to build a new team. He had great success at Munster. We got rid of warren gatland too soon and look at the force Wales are now.

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  • There is honour in defeat. Winning for our small nation is wishful thinking. I’d you want to support winners in Ireland you need to go to see Katie Taylor fight but it is not in popular in the bars in Dublin 4 She is a real hero yet people think boxing is not as acceptable as rugby and still the players are trying to pound their opponents into submission as well as hammer them as hard as possible which at times injures them for life. Not much difference if you ask me. I get more nervous for the young rugby players than for the boxers.

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  • Conor 23/06/12 #

    The Six Nations should be the last chance saloon for Kidney, like O’Sullivan. Anything less than a championship victory will spell the end and his contract won’t be renewed.

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  • It is a very sad day for Brian O’Driscoll .
    He has reached the end of the road but unfortunately is still trying to cling to his place on the team His performance today was dismal at best, also he showed as much leadership qualities as a Chimp in a Zoo.
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  • What have all the smart ass rugger heads , who were on here for the last week taking pot shots at the Irish football team, have to say now?????????????????????????

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  • peter 23/06/12 #

    one more six nations

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  • It is sad that the bitterness is coming out now. Hurling match starting now.

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  • Who the hell is BOD? Is that the team mascot? They were a disgrace and you cannot handle that. Parking car in Portlaoise at the moment, two hurling matches to look forward to.

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    • Gerard 23/06/12 #

      There’s no way you have the brain capacity to park the car and use the phone at the same time and the fact that you’re twelve years old you shouldn’t be driving anyway

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    • Is that with the crowd that says its amateur and then turns round and pays the players expenses and the coaches as well nIt’s ok though only expenses sooner the better they just pay the players get it over and done with I wonder is the reason that they don’t want to pay the players is it because then they will have to pay tax and the people will really see what the GAA make just wondering

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  • The players should take a long look at themselves. Brian O’Driscoll was a disgrace as a captain and seemed more interested talking about drinking.
    The team are a national disgrace .
    Same rubbish as the soccer muppets. Shame on them.

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  • Who pays the muppets that played this morning?

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  • Thank god we have hurling in this country. A real game played by real men.

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  • Lads I’m only trying to piss off Elrat the prat

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  • The truth hurts!!!! Meaningful analysis of what? Please don’t let yourself down anymore.

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  • Diarmuid, I am entitled to speak my mind. The rubbish that we as a nation have been served up by the muppets is unacceptable. Cop on !

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