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Opinion: Rangers and Celtic must come closer than ever

‘Campaigning for an end to the Old Firm phrase, that bracketed them alongside the bitter neighbours, is one thing. Separating them – literally – for years, is quite another.’

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Pics: Andrew Milligan/PA Wire/Press Association Images

Reproduced with permission from Ciarán Ó Raghallaigh

THERE’S ONLY ONE thing worse than losing a two-horse race.

Winning a one-horse race.

Success and fulfillment have not always gone hand-in-hand. Ever wonder how Ben Johnson really felt the morning after scorching the track of Seoul’s Olympic Stadium.

Seeing the ‘Benfastic’ headlines back home, the global awe at his new 100m world record time of 9.79 seconds, that would have been even faster had he not celebrated before reaching the line.

It took just 48 hours for him to really feel the guilt. Of course it emerged later that silver medalist Carl Lewis had been banned for banned substances in the build up to Seoul, only to be reinstated. Who knows who deserved what.

But if it did anything, Seoul raised an important question for any athlete. Any sportsman. Any team.

Is it worth winning if it’s too easy? If you’ve cheated? If your adversaries are not competing on a level playing field (natural ability aside)?

Indulge me a moment while I slip on a green and white scarf for this discussion – and why I think its relavent to the current conversation about Scottish football.

Most Scottish journalists will not feel comfortable unveiling the team they supported in their youth, and understandably so.

The poison that flows toward any member of the media in Scotland if even a hint of bias (i.e. supporting ‘a club’ at any time in their life) is frankly ridiculous, and comes from both sides – with each harbouring feelings of paranoia that, were they to actually exist at once, would render Scottish papers barely legible.

However, as someone whose working patch is in Ireland, and as someone who thinks the most worthwhile opinions on sport are those that come people who are passionate about it, and love it, regardless of affiliation, I’m content to slip on the green for this piece.

So, to the biggest question first. Do I think Rangers should be let slip into extinction and if so, would it be good for Scottish football?

A: No.

A tough question, but a fairly simple answer. There may be more to the reasoning, however.

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Firstly, a selfish view. When I first started traveling to Scotland from Dublin, it was on a shared season ticket, with a ballot taking place for every Rangers game.

A year passed before I ‘won’ (having shelled out for four middle-of-the-road games in a row beforehand to make it), and it was early in the 1998 season when I finally experienced the greatest derby in Britain and Ireland. The geriatric Lubo Moravcik (on his derby debut no less), a lad named Henrik Larsson and a spritely kid called Mark Burchill ensured a flight back to Dublin (with Stephen Collins sitting alongside) to remember.

Seeing as this was the late 90’s, one knew 5-1 victories didn’t come along very often, so such a victory could never be deemed ‘too easy’. Can wins over derby rivals ever be thus?

Well, sometimes. And I always felt a pang of unease when they felt that way. When Martin O’Neill’s side beat Aberdeen 7-0 in 2002, it came with the uncomfortable feeling of prising peanuts from a dead monkey’s hand. Beating Rangers 3-0 the year earlier was an altogether different experience.

Like Johnson in Seoul, outwardly there was joy, elation, celebration. Inside? ‘That was just too easy’.

Now how would that feel on an ongoing basis? Celtic fans have, perhaps naturally – given the very nature of their relationship with Rangers, indulged in some epic gloating over the past day or two.

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The statue of John Greig is pictured at Ibrox Stadium.  Pic: Danny Lawson/PA Wire

But campaigning for an end to the ‘Old Firm’ phrase, that bracketed them alongisde the bitter neighbours, is one thing. Separating them – literally – for years, is quite another.

Forget the fact some establishment figures want to save Rangers ‘for the good of the game’, forget the fact some Rangers fans in figures of power just want the best for their club – and are happy to get off scot-free in doing so. Forget the TV deals or ugly joint-sponsorships or the prospect of empty stands.

Think of your own club, and the enjoyment it can bring. Sure, the ‘Old Firm’ tag is abhorrent, yes the bile and occasional violence is more than unpleasant and thoroughly unwelcome.

But to suggest you’d *really* be in Paradise if Rangers never came to Celtic Park again is to partake in self-deluded antics of an order that would earn a spell in solitary confinement in even the most generous institutions.

‘Celtic don’t want to just win, they want to beat Rangers’

I’m not even arguing for the rest of Scottish football – as there are enough out there that will, and will do so with greater passion that I could muster on their behalf.

A Hibs supporting friend admits he enjoyed their championship winning season outside the top flight more than most seasons in the past two decades – but isn’t that relative to Hibs’ lack of success?

Celtic don’t want to just win, they want to beat Rangers. Fairly and squarely. Now to the point at the beginning. Did Rangers want to beat Celtic fairly? Clearly not, and given the current scenario that seems almost a rhetorical question.

While I’m not cheering for an end to Rangers as an institution, there should be some penitence. It most certainly won’t come from Ibrox, and one has to wonder of the chances of it coming from up on high in Scotland, where already it appears a path is being laid to absolve Rangers of any great pain, due to their importance in society. (Disregard the fact the very same establishments only recently halted important government work to discuss the downright despicable anti-social elements of same.)

So what punishment? Financial pain is one thing. But Ben Johnson didn’t just lose sponsorship endorsements, or be forced to pay for his next pair of spikes out of his own pocket.

His medals were withdrawn. Passed on. The glory was erased.

If anything is to change in Scottish football, and in the relationship between Celtic and Rangers due to this latest scandal, it should be that the two clubs are closer than ever.

Where it matters – on the list of League champions.

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Comments (14 Comments)

  • Face facts,you are in the wrong neck of the woods if you are looking for sympathy,your lot sneered when Celtic had problems,i didnt hear or see much sympathy for the hoops from anyone in scotland or britain,what goes around comes around,revenge is a dish best served cold,ps i have visited belfast edinburgh and glasgow many times ,my expieriences in those citys have shaped my opinions,you are not shy either when it comes to nasty comments grant.

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    • Gerald you make some fair points but I represent the real fans and am not looking for sympathy. It was of the clubs senior managements doing. All I am looking for is reasoned and balanced comments from open minded and educated adults.

      I am big enough to admit when I am wrong but some of the comments on here are just out of order, hence my replies.

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    • Now now Rab C who checked out my twitter account first ,Why dont you get a three wheeled bike instead and you wont keep falling off ,p.s des kelly does a great deal on cheap carpet tiles , to be a bigot , bald and bluenosed at the same time is not cool

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  • Typical verbal diahorrea from Grieve, like father like son is my answer in relation to your fist post, people in glasshouses should not throw stones , a review of your own postings show a very negative opinion of The Republic of Ireland which is rich considering you reside here, may the cancerous disease of R.F.C its policies and most of its dob bigoted supporters be removed from the football arena forever and let those who enjoy the sport for what it is do so in peace

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  • Racist is a big bold word for you to be using fatso , just to show what a nige guy I am , I have spoken to my old pal Ryan Tubridy from the late late and has promised a slot for you Rab, to cycle your new I cant fall off anymore three wheeler on the Christmas toyshow edition , and as a measure of goodwill I will pay for the crash helmet , Happy now p.s the bike can carry well over 180 kgs so you will be ok

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  • Oh of course and being a racist white supremacist is cool…you abide by those ten rules set out by your groupenbahnfurher pal and you won’t go far wrong.

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  • Ciaran,

    As a life long RFC supporter, contributor, season ticket holder and general fan of the club, I can’t agree with your summation. Yes RFC should pay the penalty for any financial mismanagement and yes there needs to be a full investigation as to how and why this whole debacle came to pass.

    I am no fan of sectarianism or the minority that continue to let this happen. When I have sat in The Copeland Road end and listened to some of the comments directed at CFC or other clubs fans I have been disgusted.

    But the reality is that there are fans all over the world of RFC that would be destroyed by the demise of such a great club. It won’t and can’t happen.

    The big question you posed was should there be a reckoning on the 13 titles? I don’t think so because what you are suggesting is that RFC cheated to win those titles…that is not the case. Those matches were won with players who performed on the day and through hard work, endeavour and bravery beat their rivals (not just CFC) to the title.

    I have seen a lot of bigotry, racism and xenophobia on here regarding RFC in the past few days and it has disgusted me. The tar and feathers were truly out in strength but no one stopped to consider the ordinary supporters in this…when our team loses we lose, when they win, we win and we all put our hard earned cash into believing that every time they take to the pitch they are going to win. We cannot possibly control what goes on behind the scenes without a majority stake in the club and maybe, just maybe that is where it may end up.

    But why should the son be punished for the sins of the father?

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    • i have seen lots of bigotry and racism in belfast glasgow and ibrox and it was all from the Rangers camp,dress it up anyway you like,Rangers are cheats and bigots,they have always been like that and probably always will,if a club in britain was anti black or muslim,it would have been shut down or properly sanctioned years ago,but because its anti Irish catholic people its ok,normal good natured abuse that the Irish have put up with for years ,no where else in the western Europe would that be tolerated,but in protestant scotland.Why? because the powers that be want it so and have done nothing to change it.ps rangers will never be allowed to fail ,too many of their fans in powerful positions in british life!

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    • Gerald,

      I have now read with amusement a lot of your postings and they all stem from the same thing that you accuse Scottish Protestants of, Racism & Bigotry. You have made some very grand and sweeping statements without any information, data or knowledge to back these claims up.

      I would love to know if you have ever lived in Scotland or perhaps even visited the country? As you will find that it is vastly different to your little fantasy world of double standards, sweeping statements and utter nonsense.

      What might interest you more is that the club you so clearly support (West Bromwich Albion) has a very direct link to the protestant faith and if you knew anything about CFC and their history you would know that the great Jock Stein was a protestant and in fact was one of four who managed CFC. The man himself was so against bigotry that he once jumped into the crowd at a game against Stirling Albion to grab those CFC fans that were singing sectarian songs.

      A piece of advice from me would be instead of ranting and raging…educate yourself about what you think you stand for. However, judging by your past posts I don’t think you have the minerals to put together anything other than a racist, bigoted taunt.

      So taunt away laddie…its a long road and there are plenty of bumps.

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  • Whats really interesting Joxer is that on your Twitter page you are following white supremiscist organisations that are predominantly Protestant in their beliefs.

    Unless of course I am mistaken and there is another Joxer Daly on Twitter who says “Ya Langer” and has an orange background egg as a picture?

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    • 10 out of 10 Jock, the egg was to remind me of your baldy head lol and dont be going claiming White Pride groups are Protestant in origin,Ranger will be soon defunct and all blue nosed bigots will be silenced when their team just like the Titanic will disappear off the radar, Look out lads Ranger Danger!!!!!lol

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    • Joxer just because you looked at my FB page…don’t make the mistake of thinking you know me or my kin.

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