So we re all in agreement that Duff and Keane are finished then?

westwood

kelly dunne o’shea clark

gibson mc carthy

coleman hoolahan mc clean

long

Gary Breen, Gary Breen, Gary Breen , Gary Breen, Gary Breen, Gary Breen, Gary Breen , Gary Breen, Gary Breen, Gary Breen

Wes Hoolahan, Long, McClean and Coleman have to be starters, genuinely capable players who’ve shown their mettle in the Premier League.

4-2-3-1

Westwood, Kelly, Dunne, Clarke, Wilson, Andrews, McCarthy, Houlihan, Mclean, Coleman, Long.

Makes no difference if you can’t hold onto the ball for more than 2 passes

He’ll change nothing bar what changes are enforced due to retirements. Buying out his contract is the only way to see the development of new players and a change of style.

Look it’s not rocket science to PASS the ball and hold possession instead of kicking it up the field and hoping for glory!

Katie Taylor up front on her own

Westwood, Coleman, st ledger, dunne, Wilson, mcclean, Gibson Andrews, McCarthy, Walters long

Subs: forde, McCarthy, meyler, Doyle hunt Clark mcgeady

is there any way to do a poll with all potential players on it to see exactly what people think from the first 22?

He should have given a game last night to all the players that didn’t get a look in at the first two matches! Usually if a player isn’t playing well he’s dropped, but not the case of ourselves!

If Robbie Keane wishes to continue with Ireland first thing he should do is return to the Premiership, otherwise out of sight, goodbye and thanks for all the goals.

Duff could still do a good job for Ireland – playing in the center of midfield as the attacking midfielder with Gibson/AN other behind

Given if fully fit is still an asset to the team, but the reserve keepers should play every minute of every friendly at least. Its a disgrace that our next in line keeper has only 8 caps (and a few of those would only be half games)

Samir Carruthers & Robbie are the future of Irish football, get them in the squad ASAP.

Players like Paul McShane & Paul Green should never set foot on pitch again.

I dont see how getting rid of trap will make any short term changes. We have one friendly before the qualifiers, hardly enough time for a new man to try anything new.

for what its worth

Westwood/Given (if not retired)

S.Kelly, Dunne, St Ledger, Wilson

Coleman, Andrews, Hoolahan, McClean

Walters Long

take your pic

Keith Fahey (Birmingham)
Athoney Pilkington (norwich)
Conor Clifford (Chelsea)
Wes Houlihan (norwich),
James Mclean (Sunderland),
Seamus Coleman (Everton),
James McCarthy (Wigan)
Ciaran Clarke (Aston Villa)
Robbie Brady (Mancs)
Stephen kelly (Fulham)
Stephen Ireland (Aston Villa)
Jon Walters (Stoke)
Simon Cox (West Brom)
Shane Long (West Brom)
Aiden McGeady (Spartak Moscow)
Andy Reid (nottingham forest)
Shane Lowry (villa),
Conor Doyle (Derby),
Jamie O’Hara (Tottenham)
Lukas Jutkiewicz (Coventry)
Simon Cox (West Brom)
Billy Mehmet (Genclerbirligi)
Barry Maguire (Utrecht)
Conor Doyle (Derby)
Shane Lowry (Aston Villa)
Mark Noble (West Ham)
Hogan Ephraim (QPR)
Matt Kilgallon (Sunderland)
Anton Ferdinand (Sunderland)
Kevin Nolan (Newcastle)
Kyle Naughton (Tottenham)
Gary O’Neil (Middlesbrough)
Gary McSheffrey (Coventry)
Darren Ambrose (Crystal Palace)
Kieron Cadogan (Crystal Palace)
Jonjo Shelvey (Liverpool)
Connor Wickham (Ipswich)
Andy Lonergan (Preston)
Zander Diamond (Aberdeen)
Adam Hammill (Barnsley)
Matt Connolly (QPR)
Luke Williams (Middlesbrough)
Dave Kitson (Portsmouth)
Marc Wilson (Stoke)
Liam Lawrence (Porstmouth)
Darren O’Dea
Kevin Doyle (Wolves)
Stepehen Hunt (Waterford)
Joey O’Brien (West Ham)
Andy Keogh (Milwall)

Recall the lot of them

1 GK Pat Bonner
2 DF Chris Morris
3 DF Steve Staunton
4 DF Mick McCarthy
5 DF Kevin Moran
6 MD Ronnie Whelan
7 DF Paul McGrath
8 MD Ray Houghton
9 FW John Aldridge
10 FW Tony Cascarino
11 MD Kevin Sheedy

My team would be-for Brazil 2014

Given/Westwood

Coleman. Dunne. St ledger. Clarke

Mc carthy
Mc clean. Hoolahan
Pilkington

Long. Doyle/Walters

This wont happen cause trap will only change what he is forced to due to retirements – and style of play won’t change between now and September – he will come out with a big speech before nxt friendly that he will integrate players over time- I doubt u will see hoolahan, pilkington , Clarke in an Ireland shirt I hope for all our sakes I’m wrong but I don’t think so

I’d go westwood in goals with Cunningham, clarke, st ledger, ward at the back , I’d Andrews/steven reid sitting in front of the back4 mcclean on left mcgeady/ireland on the right, McCarthy in the middle and long in the hole with Doyle up front in a 4-1-3-2 formation emphasis on attacking down the wings gettin crosses in to Doyle and long … And defo get rid of the idea that we can play like an Italian side cause we ain’t Italian!

we don’t really have te players to preform much better on the world stage. But I certainly think 4-4-2 is dead

Given
Coleman, Dunne, Clarke, Wilson
McCarthy, Andrews, Gibson
McGeady, McClean
Long

Are we seriously saying that st. Ledger is international standard after wat we’ve seen, he ducked out of the way for the first goal against crotia, he’s big , slow, and has little or no football

Hey folks

There isn’t a chance in hell of this team being picked by Trap in september (or ever even) but here is a selection that could really excite the irish supporter.

Westwood
Kelly Duffy Clark Wilson
Coleman McCarthy Ireland Mclean
Walters
Long

Subs: Kenny, St Ledger, Gibson, S Reid, Hoolahan, Pilkington, Stokes

Now add these player that could also join the squad:
Keith Fahy, Kevin Foley, McGeady, Leon Best, Simon Cox, Daryl Murphy, Robbie Brady, Cillian Sheridan.

This squad is very inexperienced but has genuine quality and could play together for the next 5 years

I dont buy it when people say we don’t have the players.

The problem is, most of these players would not want to play Traps negative tactics.
Stephen Ireland has stated in April on bbc that he wouldnt rule out a return to Ireland, and even if he didn’t we have lots of quality on that bench and on the fringes.
Personally, if Trap is willing to be a little more positive and attacking minded in tactics, it could still be exciting times for Irish football.
Am i being naive? The talent is out there.

Westwood
Kelly st ledger Dunne Wilson

Clark
Coleman McCarthy Holohan McClean

Long

————-Westwood
Kelly-St Ledger-Dunne-Wilson
Coleman-Ireland-Andrews-McClean
———-Walters—Long

7 dwarfs,3 stooges and Roy

Gibson is our best central midfielder. If you don’t have him in your team your team is wrong.

Westwood
Kelly-Clark-St Ledger-O’Shea
-Gibson–Wilson–McCarthy
-McGeady-Long/Walters-McLean

That defence looks awful. Coleman is a maybe for RB, but doesn’t get his game for Everyon in that position.

Hopefully the likes of Enda Stevens step up. Shane Duffy too.

A few reservations about Coleman’s defensive qualities. He can get caught out! But hey.. it wasn’t like O’Shea or Ward were, by any stretch of the imagination, “solid”. Players like Coleman, Clarke, Wilson, Hoolahan and Pilkington need to be reintroduced/introduced for, at least, peace of mind. Having said that, it wasn’t long ago when there were huge calls being made for Ward – now look at us. A degree of common sense is needed. Shocked by the calls for Given’s head, the man was clearly not fit. Still so much to offer. The calls for Henderson (remember the interest in Paddy Kenny pre-Cyprus?) are unjustified and have a real whiff of the Andy Reid saga. In hindsight, Trap was probably proved right on that one. Henderson though, should be promoted, given his assent and Westwood needs to find first team football. By the way, how many people here have actually seen Westwood play.. say.. 25+ league matches? I haven’t. Joe Mason, Duffy, Cunningham and Brady, like Henderson, need to be encouraged though and the same could now be said for Hunt, Gibson, Foley etc. How are they feeling on this Tuesday morning? This nonsense of sticking to ‘my players’ is rubbish. How many people here play league football, GAA, Rugby or any team sports on any given weekend? Anyone that does, knows that in most cases, the best 11, 15 or whatever, more than likely get picked each and every time. Yes, that does take into account elements such as ability, tactics, the opposition etc but in most cases everyone is fighting for the jersey in question right up until the final hour. Good management will always encourage or promote a degree of uncertainty within their squad just even to keep the players on their toes. The players in our squad knew not only that they were in the squad but unforgivably, who would also be starting/playing… weeks and even months ago. We do not possess a Iniesta, Rooney, Modric etc were that might be standard. Our players are not of that quality. We do however always bring fight and passion to the cause and I’m afraid to say it, but that was lacking on the pitch this time and probably the most disappointing part of this tournament. No expert or anything, but I reckon these qualities in relation to this championship were lost long before the players entered the field of play. If Trap wanted to keep his players comfortable or relaxed then he should have given more rest time, not promote this nonsensical atmosphere. He has a big job on his hands, nodding towards Gibson, Foley, Hunt once more and the possibility of retirements. I do not think wholesale changes need to be made though. A plan B and the furthering of options would be nice though.

Westwood

Coleman Dunne Clark Wilson

Andrews
Gibson McCarthy

McGeady McClean
Long

Any team that has Westwood in goals should be dismissed straight away.

Given was struggling with fitness & was not up to his usual standard but so what. He can play at the highest level until he’s 39-49 if he wishes & is our greatest ever keeper & automatic starter

Of the others older brigade. Duff no longer is a starter but dropping him for a few games might galvanize him, the same for Keane. Look how hungry Kevin Doyle looked in 1st half after missing Spain game.

Keane should be dropped but only to the bench not retired. He would still be useful chasing a goal in last 20 mins with Walters & Long first choice or one on their own with 5 man midfield

Given
Clarke
Dunne
O Shea
Kelly
McClean
Gibson
Mccarthy
McGeady
Long
Walters

That’s the team that should start against Kazahastan, then drop one of the forwards & bring back Andrews from suspension for 5 man midfield against Germany

westwood
ward
dunne
st ledger
Coleman
mc clean
whelan
fahey
hoolahan
walters
long

westwood Kelly dunner st ledger Coleman
Andrews
mccarthey hoolahan
Mclean long Walter

Given
St. Ledger Dunne Clarke
Coleman McClean
Fahey McCarthy Holohan
Long

Given

O’Shea/Coleman Dunne Clarke/O’Shea Wilson

McClean Andrews Hoolahan McCarthy Duff/Pilkington

Long

I’ve actually given a fair bit of thought to this and written up a relatively long blog post if anyone fancies a look. http://www.interactionbill.com/personalblog/2012/06/19/the-irish-football-problem/

Westwood
Coleman. Dunne o dea Clark

McLean McCarthy. Gibson. Mcgeady

Walters

Long
Five across the middle when we lose it, young energetic hungry players that aren’t afraid to take a cut off people.

If Given is still going on the international scene (and is fit unlike recently) then he has to continue. Westwood is decent but not in the same class league as Given.

1. Given, 2. Kelly 3. 4. Wilson St. Ledger 5. Dunne (if retired, Clarke) 6. McCarthy 7. Coleman 8. Andrews 9. Long 10. Walters 11. McClean

Bench: Westwood, Pilkington, Clarke, Hoolahan, Gibson, McGeady, Doyle, Hunt, Cox

Seeing as that team is so light on defender though I’d worry. Coleman can switch to right back if needed as cover for that position. I’m presuming Keane, Duff and O’Shea are going to retire given their comments in the run up to the tournament however O’Shea may stay on in which case he’d be a welcome addition to the above. Some talent there that would need careful guidance but the above have all shown class in the big leagues and would be more than capable against the likes of Austria and Sweden. Germany though are just a class apart and should easily top our qualification group.

Pick 11 good GAA players.

1.Westwood 2.Coleman 3.Clarke. 4.Wilson 5 Dunne 6.Walters 7.McCarthy 8. Andrews 9. Ireland 10. McLean 11. long

1. Hanratty
2. Hanratty
3. Hanratty
4. Hanratty
5. Hanratty
6. Hanratty
7. Hanratty
8. Hanratty
9. Hanratty
10. Hanratty
11. Hanratty

4-4-2 with Hanratty supporting the front two of Hanratty and Hanratty!

Trap won’t change anything knowing him but this is the team I would like to see. Gk: Kieran Westwood. RB: John O’ Shea. CB: Richard Dunne. CB: Sean St Ledger. LB: Stephen Kelly. RM: Seamus Coleman. CM: Anthony Pilkington. CM: Keith Andrews. LM: James McClean. ST: Jon Walters. ST: Shane Long.

given
coleman-Dunne- st. ledger- fahy
mc clean..Andrews- mc carthy..mc geady.

walters..long.

subs. westwood.hoolahan.Brady.pilkington.Ciaran Clarke. Wilson.

Westwood, Kelly, Dunne, Clark, Wilson, McCarthy, Gibson, McClean, Hoolahan, Walters, Long (4-2-3-1)

-Westwood-
-Kelly Clarke Coleman-
-Andrews-
-Gibson Hoolahan McClean-
-Walters-
-Long-