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Talking Points: Mayo v Down and Dublin v Laois, All-Ireland SFC quarter-finals

There was plenty areas of debate to emerge from yesterday’s All-Ireland quarter-final double bill in Croke Park. Here’s what Ewan MacKenna thought.

Laois player Colm Begley is challenged by Dublin's Paul Flynn.
Laois player Colm Begley is challenged by Dublin's Paul Flynn.
Image: INPHO/Donall Farmer

1. The worst before the best
The biggest story of Saturday didn’t involve who won or lost, but who was lost. Word has it that Andy Moran’s cruciate went and if anything, James Horan’s reaction summed up the full-forward’s importance to the Connacht champions. When the physio went to the sideline after Moran had been carted off and broke the news to the manager, he just put both his hands on his head and grimaced.

It was the image of the day and if it’s confirmed, then Mayo will have lost a player more vital than even Aidan O’Shea. During the minutes Moran did play, he tormented both Dan Gordon and Conor Garvey who tried their best to double team him, and he gave the sort of display we witnessed in the quarter-final a year ago.

He’s a curious case because there are others with better attributes. Kieran Donaghy is taller, Tomas O’Connor is stronger, Kevin McManoman is faster, but Moran is so rounded that he’s irreplaceable. He drifts into great positions, always wins his own ball, rarely picks the wrong pass and can finish.

With him, you’d have given Mayo a chance in the semi-final. Without him though, you wouldn’t give them much chance against anyone that’s left in the draw. That’s such a shame because just as the county got their statement win, they got their biggest loss as well.

2. They are still there, somehow
So Dublin stumble onwards. Somehow. It’s not to take away from Laois’s efforts and we’ll get to them in a moment but there are still no answers to the many questions surrounding the champions and if anything they are increasing by the game. Of course they are still there and that’s the most important part of all this, but with a little under a month to go to the semi-final, they have enough to work on to fill even that huge gap in the calender.

Yet again their defence struggled and while they finally brought some intensity that defined their 2011 campaign, they brought along the lazy tackling that reminded us of 2010. They gave away a huge amount of frees as Colm Kelly and MJ Tierney both kicked two deadballs and Ross Munnelly kicked three. They were simple chances needlessly given away and they could have cost Dublin.

Michael Darragh MaCauley and John O'Loughlin 4/8/2012

Dublin’s Michael Darragh MacAuley challenging Laois player John O’Loughlin. PIC: INPHO/James Crombie

Elsewhere there were problems too. In midfield they took three-quarters of the game to get on top, and as good as Colm Begley and Brendan Quigley were, it’ll be just as hard against Aidan O’Shea and Barry Moran in the final four. And while the forwards do look lost without Alan Brogan pulling he strings, their passing was inexcusable while Bernard Brogan and Eoghan O’Gara’s shot selection and finishing were dire. They can only get better, but they’d want to get better soon as they won’t beat the top teams playing like this.

3. Down and out
That was perhaps the worst defensive display we’ve seen all year. It wasn’t that Down were short on numbers at the back, indeed they defended surprisingly deep from the off rather than going toe-to-tie in an attempt to rattle Mayo. But even with 13 defenders back for the most part they neither marked space nor men. On several occasions in the first half, three or four players would go to the Mayo man in possession yet still allow him to lay the ball off to a runner ghosting into acres of space.

Michael Conroy scores his sides third goal 4/8/2012

Michael Conroy fires home Mayo’s third goal against Down. Pic: INPHO/James Crombie

Andy Moran did it for Jason Doherty’s goal early on, in one turn on 11 minutes Moran turned Dan Gordon, Brendan McArdle and Conor Garvey, Niall McParland allowed Alan Dillon to go by him on 21 minutes as Cillian O’Connor hit the crossbar and Kevin McKernan wasn’t the only one who was poor as Kevin McLoughlin was allowed feed an untracked Michael Conroy for the killer goal on 27 minutes. After the break their defensive work somehow managed to reach a lower level and what was most frustrating is all those errors can be eradicated with basic coaching and a decent work ethic.

4. As good as it’s gotten
Laois may have lost yesterday and while it will take some days to recognise it after such a cruel defeat, they can take so much from that performance as it was their best under Justin McNulty by a distance. We know Eoin Culliton is a top-class goalkeeper but in front of him, the full-back line hung tight and even if they were clinging to the coattails of Eoghan O’Gara and Bernard Brogan at times, they never let go.

John O’Loughlin was impressive, Colm Belgey immense beside Brendan Quigley while Ross Munnelly looked the player he was half a decade ago as he threw himself into everything with complete commitment and conviction. Throw in Colm Kelly’s cool head from frees and there’s the making of a decent side there.

They could do with another forward or two but a team that looked to be disappearing into the gutter have stood tall and can suddenly look to 2013 with excitement and with belief they’ve a manager bringing them in the right direction. Losing like that hurts, but the positives should soon sooth the pain.

5. A little lightweight?
Given points one and two, there’s going to be a side in the All Ireland final that won’t be feared. In fact you’d have to say if Dublin do make it to the decider, it’ll have been the easiest route since Kerry in 1997. They won it that year and anything can happen once you reach late September but there was nothing on view on Saturday, taking into account Andy Moran’s injury, for any of the sides on the opposite side of the draw to truly fear. Whoever can come out on top of Cork-Kerry-Kildare-Donegal half will have done most of the hard work.

As it happened: Dublin v Laois, All Ireland SFC quarter-final

As It Happened: Mayo v Down, All-Ireland SFC quarter-final

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Comments (22 Comments)

  • We walked out of Croke Park yesterday with heads held high because laois gave a strong performance against the All Ireland champs, they showed heart and never stopped trying to catch up on that goal. Would have liked to have seen a few minutes extra time but at the end of the day the better team won in fairness to the dubs. Everyone stood up and clapped the lads going off the pitch after the final whistle, half the hogan stand was shouting well done laois! They gave a performance to be proud of, and there is much excitement for next year as there is a confidence and physicality there that has been lacking in recent years. You can see a strong team are beginning to take shape,its clear McNulty is doing something right and hopefully the CLG Board will keep him on as manager when the time for a decision comes in a few weeks. They played with their heart the last few games, the general consensus was that meath would slaughter us! Genuinely surprised at how they fought against the dubs yesterday, it was an enjoyable match from start to finish because neither the team nor the support lost hope for a win, and it was hilarious looking over at the muted hill 16 every time laois caught back up on the scoreboard…Not a sound out of them a few times they’d usually neveer stop roaring up there! Laois can be proud because they’re getting an edge to their game and its showing…the team is coming along. Roll on 2013!

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  • Fair play to Laois yesterday but don’t use the injury time as an excuse.
    Laois weren’t going to get a goal yesterday, they stayed in the game because they defended so well.
    All this stuff about the gaa conspiracy theories helping Dublin is nonsense. If Laois had won croke park would have been a sell out for the semi’s anyway so how are they losing money by dublin not winning??
    Today’s double header will in my opinion attract just as big (if not a bigger) crowd than yesterday aswell.
    The best team won yesterday even if they played poorly

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  • So again the implication is that Kildare are being touted as champions. Remind me again who these division 2 dwelling trophy less wonders have actually beaten.

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  • Eoin 05/08/12 #

    No mention of the 1 minute of injury time when there should have been at least 4?????

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  • The over all standard of refereeing in Gaelic Football needs to be reviewed. The ref during the Laois/Dublin game was appalling. My suggestion would be to have 2 referees, one in each half of the field so that they can get much closer to the action and spot frees that should be awarded instead trying to judge what is happening from 10-15 yards away. Fitness levels of the referees are very poor also

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  • howzat 05/08/12 #

    I read the article with amusement
    Firstly Dublin defence played a blinder with synical tackling stopping goal threats as Kerry and cork would do (not giving away stupid frees as noted above)
    Secondly Dublin midfield dominated most of the game with Mcauley playing with great physical dominance
    Where it really went wrong was the forwards if brogan and Connolly had put away the goal chances at start of the game it would have sent confidence to the rest of the team instead it had the opposite affect
    Brogan should have been taken off earlier mcmemimen should have been brought on earlier so he could run at their defence
    Taking off bastic was wrong
    O Gara was poor at shooting
    Kilkenny should have been pushed forward

    Blame Gilroy and the forwards not the rest end of rant

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  • Dave 05/08/12 #

    What a great article Ewan. Mayo written off before a ball is kicked in anger. We thumped Dublin in the league and even without the superb Andy Moran I think we still have a chance. But sure why would we even turn up, Dublin are in the final already.

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  • lets not forget the extra man Laois had.The ref was a disgrace and Dublin won despite his best efforts!

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  • Role on august 18 and the return of the premier league and real football..

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  • No mention of the point that wasn’t compared to the uproar when Dublin weren’t awarded a point when the umpire was wrong.Typical double standards by the GAA.The favour should have been returned to Laois Linesman Maurice Deegan for helping Dublin in the Meath Match.

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