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Hawk-Eye: technology error cost Limerick a point in the All-Ireland minor hurling semi. ยฉINPHO/Donall Farmer

Limerick to continue Hawk-Eye fight after latest appeal rejected

The CHC dealt Limerick another blow last night as the embarrassing Hawk-Eye controversy continues into a second week.

LIMERICK WILL FIGHT on with their Hawk-Eye appeal after their latest challenge was thrown out last night.

The county will now take their case to the Disputes Resolution Authority (DRA) as they attempt to have their controversial defeat in the All-Ireland minor hurling semi-final overturned.

Limerick challenged the result after Hawk-Eye, the GAAโ€™s expensive score detection technology, incorrectly ruled out a point in the opening minute of their defeat against Galway. The game finished in a draw before Galway went on to win in extra-time and book their place in the final on 8 September.

The appeal was initially struck out by the Central Competitions Control Committee (CCCC) last week who said that, under Rule 7.10 (n), they were precluded from considering an objection โ€œsubmitted on grounds that a referee had incorrectly allowed or failed to allow a score.โ€

The Central Hearings Committee (CHC) last night upheld that decision, and with time running out, a spokesperson for the county board told TheScore.ie that they will now lodge an application to the DRA.

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    Mute Tom Daly Clarke
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    Aug 27th 2013, 10:43 AM

    Take it al the way limerick, stand up for every teenager and adult in the country. Hawkeye was brought in to stop mistakes and it cost limerick teens a place in the All Ireland final.

    If Limerick lets this go then the GAA will continue to walk all over Counties and clubs.

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    Mute wongstie
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    Aug 27th 2013, 10:46 AM

    Or just move on and except thatโ€™s its one of those things :-)

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    Mute Tom Daly Clarke
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    Aug 27th 2013, 10:53 AM

    itโ€™s not one of those things, the technology cost limerick a place in the final, this is scandalous.

    if limerick let this go then the gaa will walk over everyone.

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    Mute wongstie
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    Aug 27th 2013, 10:57 AM

    But will they tomโ€ฆ

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    Mute Niall H
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    Aug 27th 2013, 11:17 AM

    Technology did not cost Limerick the match. It cost them a point but nobody knows how the game would have been effected if the point was allowed. Give it up lads. It canโ€™t be replayed. There is nothing in the rules to allow a replay. If a replay was ever going to be awarded it would have been rewarded to Louth in 2010

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    Mute Tom Daly Clarke
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    Aug 27th 2013, 11:33 AM

    โ€˜Technology did not cost Limerick the matchโ€™

    aah, yes it did.

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    Mute James Kinahan
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    Aug 27th 2013, 11:35 AM

    Absolutely Niall, if it had been last minute I could understand it, but a point in the opening minute means f. all.
    If they were the better team Galway wouldnโ€™t have won in extra-time or even got them as far as extra time!

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    Mute Shane Leonard
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    Aug 27th 2013, 12:49 PM

    20wides for limerick had nothing to do with the lossโ€ฆ

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    Mute Larry K
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    Aug 27th 2013, 10:41 AM

    How can a computer generated message be taken as gospel? The replay on screen is all that is needed to know it was a valid score.
    Not allowing a replay or appeal is a classic case of the system is more important than the people it serves

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    Mute fergus
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    Aug 27th 2013, 11:51 AM

    Get over it

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    Mute James King
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    Aug 27th 2013, 1:00 PM

    Agreed. The ref heard about the error at half time and in time honoured GAA tradition made a draw of it at the end. Limerick had their replay in extra time and made a hash of it. How many chances do they want.

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    Mute Noel Ryan
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    Aug 28th 2013, 1:09 AM

    To say the ref made a draw out of it is saying he fixed the match-surely never in Gaa!!! A draw at the end means Limk won the match,if you get my drift. At this stage Limk forget about it. Your approach to the two appeal boards has been lukewarm so far.

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    Aug 27th 2013, 11:08 AM

    Can we keep the personal insults out of the comments please?

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    Mute Little Jim
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    Aug 27th 2013, 11:13 AM

    Will do Nelly!

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    Mute vv7k7Z3c
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    Aug 27th 2013, 11:15 AM

    Good man Jimbo โ€” and for future reference, I prefer Nidler if weโ€™re going to insist on using nicknames.

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    Mute Little Jim
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    Aug 27th 2013, 11:24 AM

    Oh, Jimbo now is it.!
    I could have stayed at home and been insulted..

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    Mute John Paul Scallan
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    Aug 27th 2013, 10:48 AM

    Jesus sore losers. Move on and come back better next year

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    Mute Tom Daly Clarke
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    Aug 27th 2013, 10:51 AM

    they didnโ€™t โ€˜loseโ€™ in normal time, in fact, they won. Galway should have manned up and offered a replay. All Galway have taught their teenagers is that itโ€™s ok to win by any means possible.

    Someone has to put a stop to this bullshit.

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    Mute Elaine Fitzpatrick
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    Aug 27th 2013, 11:04 AM

    You can also look at it as a draw,, if the point was allowed the ref wouldnโ€™t off given limerick the free at the end.. My opinion is the free at the end was given to limerick to make up for the โ€˜Missโ€™ to even it up and let them at it for another 20mins I do feel sorry for the young lads its a disappointment but they ended up loosing by 3points,, if they want to appeal they have a right but thatโ€™s just my argument on the matter

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    Mute Ann Forry
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    Aug 27th 2013, 11:08 AM

    Those minors wonโ€™t be able to play next year. Iโ€™m not saying Limerick would have won if that score had stood. Galway being man enough to offer a replay would sort things.

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    Mute Tom Daly Clarke
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    Aug 27th 2013, 11:10 AM

    limerick were denied two points, not one, two. Limerick would have won by two points in normal time.

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    Mute James Kinahan
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    Aug 27th 2013, 11:38 AM

    Are you saying that every single decision that should have gone Galwayโ€™s way during the game did? Itโ€™s a slippery roadโ€ฆ

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    Mute stephen
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    Aug 27th 2013, 11:59 AM

    @tom daly why should Galway give them a replay they havenโ€™t done anything wrong. The way youโ€™re going on youโ€™d swear it was some sort of conspiracy between Galway and GAA HQ to stop limerick reaching the final. Limerick had a full game plus extra time to make up for it and didnโ€™t. Shit happens get on with it

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    Mute Marty Borgnine
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    Aug 27th 2013, 12:49 PM

    So now itโ€™s Galwayโ€™s fault. Grow up Tom Daly Clarke. You are like an infant again today.

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    Mute gerard
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    Aug 27th 2013, 1:05 PM

    Totally agree with you john paul

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    Mute Jack Matthynssens
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    Aug 28th 2013, 2:51 AM

    Itโ€™s a minor team, they canโ€™t come back next year! 3 or 4 might play senior eventually but probably still not next year!

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    Aug 27th 2013, 11:56 AM

    Any word if Galway will contest that soft free Limerick got at the end of second half to level the match and bring it to extra time?

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    Mute Brendan Begley
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    Aug 27th 2013, 10:56 AM

    Give it up for gods sake itโ€™s over and done with limerick r not the first team it happened to and they wonโ€™t be the last

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    Mute Tom Daly Clarke
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    Aug 27th 2013, 10:59 AM

    itโ€™s the first time it happened with hawkeye. If limerick let this go then the gaa may as well throw hawkeye in the bin.

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    Aug 27th 2013, 11:09 AM

    Itโ€™s simple really. The referee is not obliged to take the decision of hawkeye as gospel, he has the final say. He didnโ€™t give the point. The rules say the refereeโ€™s correct or incorrect awarding of a score cannot be overturned. How many more games has this happened in? Itโ€™s part of the game, accept it or donโ€™t play/follow it.

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    Mute Tom Daly Clarke
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    Aug 27th 2013, 11:11 AM

    The situation with hawkeye was so fcuked up that the ref didnโ€™t know that he had the final say.

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    Mute gerard
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    Aug 27th 2013, 12:59 PM

    Totally agree with you sinead how many times has a referee made a mistake and the games were never replayed ,just get over it and try to win next year ,they are acting like children

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    Aug 27th 2013, 12:27 PM

    If this was the last puck of the game I might understand but Limerick had enough time to come back(including extra time)
    Did Limerick get any soft frees during the game at all? There was one I can remember and it was converted.
    I think they should just let it go. Mistakes happpen in every game and in every sport.
    Mayo got a very soft penalty the last day that was a 14 yard free but I doubt Tyrone will appeal.
    Regardless of Referees decisions I think the best team always win.

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    Mute Dave Murray
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    Aug 27th 2013, 11:02 AM

    Limerick are correct in taking this as far as they can.

    As it stands, Galway were awarded a place in the final in error.

    A replay would put an end to this ridiculous sideshow once and for all.

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    Mute Stephen Tyrrell
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    Aug 27th 2013, 12:31 PM

    Not at all. Whoโ€™s to say that if Limerick had been awarded the point that Galway wouldnโ€™t have gone up the other end and scored a goal etc.

    If it had been in the final minutes fair enough, but Limerick had nearly 60 minutes to win the game and couldnโ€™t.

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    Mute Keith Henry
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    Aug 27th 2013, 11:12 AM

    Whose to say that had limerick got the point they would have won the game??! The referee could have overruled Hawkeye he didnt limerick had a fair crack at it in extra time they still lostโ€ฆI doubt the decision was still playing on their mind at that stage. Bad calls happen in every game its just unfortunate that it happened when the technology supposed to reduce error didnt work

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    Aug 27th 2013, 12:02 PM

    Jesus lads get over it and move on.

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    Aug 27th 2013, 11:33 AM

    The ref stopped play about 30 seconds afterwards. Therefore the game would have taken a different direction regardless. So weโ€™ll never know

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    Aug 27th 2013, 1:20 PM

    Leave them fight away. Less lime light on the Waterford Minors to train away.

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    Aug 27th 2013, 12:29 PM

    Limerick are totally entitiled to taking this matter forwardโ€ฆit is clear that Limerick were denied a genuine score (and denied by a faulty piece of equipement)โ€ฆI hope that Limerick fights this until justice it achieved.Both the GAA and Hawkeye has accepted that this was an error. a rematch is the very least that should be given.

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    Aug 27th 2013, 12:58 PM

    A precedent will be set if a replay is awarded here. Most teams will look at it as an opportunity to contest every late free or hard luck story in a game if they feel itโ€™ll be in their interest for a second chance. No doubt itโ€™s hard on the limerick fellas but the rest of the game and extra time were played out and the best team came through on the day Iโ€™m afraid

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    Aug 27th 2013, 1:10 PM

    Paddy ,If the GAA intends to continue with errors like this then there should be a precedent should be set..Why should Limerick minors or any other team or county have to suffer because of an error by a piece of equipement? All I want is fair playโ€ฆ

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    Mute Paddy Aherne
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    Aug 27th 2013, 1:26 PM

    Con teams have been on receiving end of errors for years, not just in gaa but in all sport. 2 years ago limerick themselves knocked Wexford out of the football with a point that was at least half a yard wide in the last minute which was later proven by rte cameras to be wide. My worry is that it gives every team that feels hard done by in a game from here on a license to challenge any result with a controversial decision and if a replay gets forced then thereโ€™ll always be a case to cite

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    Mute James Kinahan
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    Aug 27th 2013, 1:34 PM

    The Limerick management arenโ€™t new to whingingโ€ฆ.for the Munster final they wanted a different venue because Waterford โ€œowed them a gameโ€, they tried to move it forward 24hrsโ€ฆ..maybe they should concentrate and the game itself and see if the results improve!

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    Aug 27th 2013, 1:37 PM

    As this is the first major error by Hawkeye and the GAA..and everybody could see that it was a wrong decision then the only fair and reasonable way to deal with it is a rematch. If Wexford or indeed any county feels that a decision is wrong they should appealโ€ฆThese are minors and should not be treated so unfairlyโ€ฆthey are hopefully the future of the game so it is only right thay they should be treated fairly.

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    Aug 27th 2013, 1:44 PM

    James, A request for a change of venue or a change of time is not whinging..Wanting fair play is not whinging eitherโ€ฆIf Waterford or any other county was in the same position as Limerick is in nowโ€ฆI am sure they would do the same.

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    Mute James Kinahan
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    Aug 27th 2013, 1:59 PM

    Of course it is, itโ€™s a bad example to young hurlers. They should be happy to go out and play in a neutral venue for an occasion such as a Munster final. Instead they went nit-picking on what might supposedly give them an edge.
    As for the hawkeye incident, in my opinion it has nothing to do with fair play and everything to do with not knowing how to lose. Iโ€™m neither from Limerick nor Galway, but Iโ€™ve played enough GAA to know that a point in the first minute is never the winning or losing of a gameโ€ฆ20 wides on the other hand is!

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    Mute Con Keyes
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    Aug 27th 2013, 2:17 PM

    โ€ฆโ€Those young hurlersโ€ did not โ€œnitpickโ€ anything they went and played and won the Munster Final Replay at a nuetral venueโ€ฆLimerick were actually denied two points on the day..โ€those young players are entitled to fair play.The GAA and Hawkeye accepted the errorโ€ฆunlike you I am not trying to air other issues other than this appeal. These are possible future senior players, the GAA are obliged to be fair to them, sn error was made lets correct it and replay the match .

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    Mute James Kinahan
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    Aug 27th 2013, 2:30 PM

    In fact my comment was at the Limerick management who arenโ€™t letting the issue go. The lads who played the game and hit the wides know themselves where the game went wrongโ€ฆ.and it wasnโ€™t in the first minute!

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    Aug 27th 2013, 4:52 PM

    The point against Wexford wasnโ€™t proved to be wide, it was just inconclusive

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    Aug 27th 2013, 4:01 PM

    Cut it out now limerick, I just dropped my galway jersey into the dry cleaners and bought my bus eireann ticket and am looking forward to the day out in the big smoke!!

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    Aug 27th 2013, 12:56 PM

    The galway people are busy red thumbing!

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    Aug 27th 2013, 3:47 PM

    Iโ€™m embarrassed for Limerick at this stage.One of the many reasons for playing sport is to build character, to learn to deal with hard knocks.
    At the start of extra time the sides were level, Limerick took the lead in the 2nd half of extra time but Galway ran out 3 point winners. Game over.Move on.

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    Mute Gavin Scott
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    Aug 27th 2013, 11:34 AM

    Not a professional sport. Glaringly obvious now, it would seem.

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    Mute Kevin Whyte
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    Aug 27th 2013, 2:03 PM

    Hawk eye says in or hawk eye says out, refs decision is final.
    Hawkeye is an aid to the ref.
    Going forward refs may place less trust in technology and be slow to call for assistance.
    The game is over, the result is in.
    Move on

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    Aug 28th 2013, 1:17 AM

    Are you kinda saying that the ref was both blind and illerate ?

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    Mute Bill
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    Aug 27th 2013, 12:57 PM

    Match should have been abandoned following conflicting Hawkeye decision because result was always going to be in doubt from that point on โ€ฆgame will have to be replayed.

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    Mute James Kinahan
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    Aug 27th 2013, 1:28 PM

    youโ€™re having a laughโ€ฆ..right?

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    Aug 27th 2013, 11:56 AM

    I doubt the ship has sailed! The GAA have failed here. No common sense whatsoever! Limpdicks! Pardon the French, but ffs. Theyโ€™re a joke

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    Aug 27th 2013, 1:18 PM

    Why did the referee even go to Hawkeye in the 1st place? The keeper knew it was a point and the umpires did too, so no doubt there. Thatโ€™s what Iโ€™d like to know.

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    Aug 27th 2013, 2:20 PM

    Itโ€™s getting embarrassing at this stage for Limerick..They were not good enough on the day and it would be more embarrassing if they succeeded on this and replayed the game and were pucked into oblivion by Galway..Give up and move on before it comes back and bites you in the ass.

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    Mute Columbo Di Sullivano
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    Aug 27th 2013, 10:01 PM

    Limerick County Board are embarrassing us. Give us a fcuking rest lads! Galway won fair & square.

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    Mute Seamie
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    Aug 27th 2013, 3:59 PM

    I think itโ€™s time to throw in the towel on this one. Itโ€™s not meant to be. Bow out with a bit of grace!

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    Mute Joe O'Sullivan
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    Aug 27th 2013, 2:37 PM

    I wonder if it was Kilkenny!!!

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    Aug 27th 2013, 11:54 PM

    Just like an innocent person (NOTE: different to Meath v Louth and Thierry Henry) does not volunteer to go to prison until a Judge sends him to one, neither should Galway volunteer for a replay. Itโ€™s not sporting, itโ€™s madness. Risking injuries so close to the final. Nothing wrong with Limerick looking for a replay but it is a decision for Croke Park, not Galway, not Limerick.
    BTW I hope the GAA have a breach of contract clause in their Hawkeye deal. It seems a donkey was left in Dublin who didnโ€™t know the difference between a football and sliothar while the thoroughbreds were sent over to deal with the Premiership that weekend.

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