HE HAS BEEN paired with many out-halves in his short career, but Conor Murray has seen enough of Ronan O’Gara to believe he can steer Ireland to a win over Scotland this Sunday.
A hamstring injury to Jonathan Sexton in the Six Nations defeat to England pushed O’Gara back into Ireland’s pivotal position.
This week, with only uncapped alternatives for the number 10 jersey, head coach Declan Kidney is set to call on the 35-year-old again.
“I played most of my rugby with ROG and we’re quite comfortable with each other.” says Murray, O’Gara’s provincial and half-back partner, before pointing to his experience of playing with both Ian Madigan and Paddy Jackson as one reason the number 10 shirt is still up for grabs.
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Having worked in close quarters with O’Gara for the entirety of his professional life Murray is confident that, despite a shaky display against Llanelli Scarlets on Saturday, the veteran’s mental toughness will make him an asset for Ireland.
“He’s so mentally strong that he’s laughing and joking about the kicks this morning – that’s the way he approaches things. He’s done it for years; having ups and downs and coming back the next week.
“I (see) no problem. If he starts, he’ll be absolutely fine. No issues.”
Backs coach Les Kiss added that he and Kidney are fortunate to have options after losing such a central tenet of their game-plan in Sexton:
“We’re pretty lucky. You’ve got ROG who has proven his experience. Ian Madigan, who is in a good vein of from and doing some nice things. Paddy Jackson has really come on as a 10 and driven a really strong Ulster team this year, so we’ve got some good options.”
A spate of injuries reaching into double figures will limit this coaching ticket’s will to make any additional selection surprises. With Gordon D’Arcy ruled out, Declan Kidney will be keen to surround the incoming ’12′ with experience.
Exposure
“Across the pitch you just have to make sure that the right people have been exposed to enough parts of what you’ve been working on and that they can carry the plan forward for you.” Kiss says.
“You’re trying to work out what’s the best combination based on all those (technical and tactical) decisions we have to make. And that decision doesn’t just stop with the 10: we’ve got a 12 to think about, the bench to think about – how we can manipulate that. We’ve got a front row to think about… so we’ve just to work out what the best mix is and go forward from that.”
No matter who starts the game at fly-half, however, Kiss maintains that Ireland will look to play the same expansive game-plan as they do with Sexton at the helm.
“Certain parts will adapt based on each player, but there is an underlying philosophy or principal that we want to stay on the ambitious side, keep being positive about our play as much as possible.
“The way we want to play the game and the way we want to work our shape and manipulate the defence demands that we have a very agile and mobile way we think about the game. We’re trying to hone that all the time, so any new player that comes in, we don’t want to shift away from that too much.
“We’ll adapt accordingly, but I don’t envisage any major change in how we want to play the game.”
This is an absolute disgrace as of the GAA typical saying nothing major happened surely the Kerry players were targeted, appalling to bring youngsters to this sort of animalisc behavior, and this sort of behavior from northern teams time after time, Come to set an example and trow thhem out or ban northern team from club competitions.
This is comming a long time. Was at a game at the same stage of this comp a few years back. it was going the same way but kerry players stood up to thugs
well said. i too coach rugby and from.day1 RESPECT is the name of the game…all parents sign and must abide by same code of conduct as coaches. gaa has a discipline issue..and tyrone gaa has a serious discipline issue..
Northern Ireland teams by and large seem to take pride in being bullies. My own club was playing in an u14 game in Antrim a few years ago and the abuse both verbal and physical they received at the hands of kids of their own age was shocking. One favourite way of intimidating players was to grab their “privates”. This was widespread over the field and because the ref was from the north as well he turned a blind eye. Yet when one of our players lost it and retaliated he was red carded straight away. It seems the kids are trained from an early age that it is winning that counts – never mind how. And croke park are powerless when it comes down to it – the ulster council are a law unto themselves.
Agree that anything along the lines of teaching kids to grab each others privates is a fairly serious matter!
I do feel that northern teams tend to get scapegoated a litte in the “bullying” tactics. nothing wrong with physical hard play – we can’t all be Kerry! but obviously theres a line that shouldnt be crossed!
Thuggery/ Brawling exists in every sport. Rugby and Soccer included so get off your high horses there. The key is how the governing body reacts. The GAA could do with coming down hard on this but to suggest it is a GAA only problem stinks of bias. I see more unpunished punches thrown in rugby than in GAA to be honest. In soccer it is more mouthing off continuously. GAA has the odd brawl but it is the most popular sport in Ireland so more games means more chance of this type of thing happening. You dont hear about it in club rugby games because hardly anyone plays rugby!
talking thru your rear. rugby is fastest growing field sport n.ireland. pray tell me the last brawl at a rugby match involving players being kicked on.the ground by spectators! our rules in rugby are crystal clear..unlike the vague laissez faire mish mash in gaa..how many rugby refs assaulted in comparison to gaa and soccer refs. only person on high horse is you
it may be the fastest growing but it will never surpass GAA. Rugby is confined to small pockets. GAA is played throughout the land. There are plenty of brawls in rugby. Here is a brawl involving one of the games biggest players and his father gets involved!
ok much and all as i hate to turn this into a GAA vs Rugby – its what i’m gonna do (soccer i’m ignoring as GAA and Rugby are natural physical sports). rugby has citing whereby if caught on camera you can be sanctioned after the game. rugby has the 3rd man in rule which in almost all cases stops a tussle from getting out of hand (i want to be clear here that i think a tussle – involving 2 players can be a very natural occurance in a physical sport).
the absence of a 3rd man in rule and the absence of serious sanctions for those caught on camera – along with the nonsense whereby referees and supporters tend to view cards as ruining the game – will in fact destroy the game – much like where ozzie rules was going before they cleaned it up! the lesson is that they did clean it up.
football and hurling could be cleaned up in a matter of a months worth of well refereed match – amateur or professional – none of the players are stupid – they’ll all react to rules and we’ll all be happier to see it!
ps lets not go crazy about Harinordoquys dad! look at the reaction of the players to it – they dont want to get involved with him and try to calm the situation – can you really say thats what you’d expect to see in a GAA match?
emmoman – so do you consider this to be an acceptable level of violence being displayed? given that there are so many GAA players and so few playing lesser sports??
to be fair i do accept your point that gaa will have more instances of everything as they play more players / more clubs / more games – but its not really relevant here.
it is a matter of fact though that there is a problem in the GAA with these mass brawls – no other sport (including ice hockey) has the same problem.
my point is that other sports have done more to eradicate the violence than the GAA – not who plays most or not. the GAA is way behind the curve on this – and someones gonna get hurt soon and they’ll quite possibly be negligent in respect of their members!
easiest thing in the world to fix! there are 7 officals watching a game (ref / linesmen / umpires). if 2 players have an altercation it should be reported and they should be warned or yellow carded. if anyone else gets involved then they should be immediately given a yellow or red card – if the whole team get involved then they should all be sent off – yes it would be a farce if it came to this – but there can no longer be protection for players who think that one in – all in is a protection for them!
This is another example of the quote
“rugby is a ruffians game played by gentlemen soccer is a gentlemans game played by ruffians and g a a is a ruffians game played by ruffians”
A normal day out for the hardy bucks and this is why g a a football NOT hurling attracts the ruffian culture
I knew as soon as I read this story that the rugby crowd would jump in and start moralising and preaching and I was bang on. If rugby wasn’t played at such a small level across the country then you can be guaranteed we would be hearing more stories of eye-gouging, stamping on heads, etc.
The GAA has almost become a victim of its own success in that there are a staggering number of games played at local level across the country every weekend. That can never excuse this kind of brutal thuggery but when you have so many games being played in a physically hard-hitting sport like Gaelic football, there is always the potential for a few thugs to leave their mark.
While it’s only right and proper that the Gardai are involved in this matter, it’s also time for the GAA to really send a message and make an example out of Tyrone.
Getting back to yesterday. Dromid accept they lost the sporting game. The Gaa needs to act on the nonplaying club members and supports who got involved. Simple to ban all Tyrone teams supporters from croke park for final and ban the subs and managment from pitchside and stand. Let them in dressing room.
Was little more than handbags that you would get every weekend up and down the country with very few real punches thrown…of course noone wants to see these minor scuffles at any games, It begins to look like sour grapes from a Kerry side which were comprehensively beaten in the end by a well drilled Derrytresk team making their first appearance at this level. This one minute aside, well done to the Derrytresk men and good luck in the final…As for our more sectarian Kerry posters above who bring it down to the “Doirty Northerners” level as usual…cop yerself on…Tyrone have played the best brand of attacking and defensive football consistantly over the last 10 years in the All Ireland series and to assuage that they are all thugs who only win matches through intimidation is only showing you for the begrudgers when you lose that you obviously must be…
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Just another small matter there are no such thing as rules in rugby there are laws so i would suggest a little research before you bother to comment.
This is a general comment as I didn’t see the footage in question but I have always been disgusted by the GAAs apparent unwilligness to deal with these events properly.
When a scuffle breaks out the two players involved should obviously be yellow carded but the third (& subsequent) player(s) into the fight should be red carded immediately and banned! It’s the players diving in afterwards that make it a brawl. And, imo, any teams involved in mass brawls should be kicked out of the competition and banned for a year.
Any spectators involved should be reported to the Gardaí for assault.
The only way to stamp this sort of thing out is to deal with it very severely. They bring shame on our fine sports.
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What happened is common assault the Gardai should be called in.The GAA cannot prosecute criminal behaviour.
This is an absolute disgrace as of the GAA typical saying nothing major happened surely the Kerry players were targeted, appalling to bring youngsters to this sort of animalisc behavior, and this sort of behavior from northern teams time after time, Come to set an example and trow thhem out or ban northern team from club competitions.
Wouldn’t be like a Tyrone/ northern team to be a bit heavy handed now would it in order to win a match!!!!
ahem…. would you care to contact Tadgh Kennelly for comment??
i disagree apparently it was just handbags
We’re you there. Joe duffy show has lots of witnesses on his show. They say there was very violent assault committed. The Gardai have to cop on.
Why have the Gardai to cop on? If there is no complaint made by the person that was assaulted they can’t do anything about it!!
This is comming a long time. Was at a game at the same stage of this comp a few years back. it was going the same way but kerry players stood up to thugs
No need to tar every northern club with the same brush. There are plenty of counties all over Ireland with records of this type of incident.
Need to see the video
Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=v954WVzDfMg#!
Thug behaviour exists in GAA for 2 reasons;
- it is tolerated by the officials;
Referees are not supported by officialdom in their decisions
- it is ‘encouraged’ from a young age on the sideline by parents and coaches ;
I coach and referee rugby and from 6 yrs of age the children are taught respect for players, coaches and referees. There is zero tolerance
well said. i too coach rugby and from.day1 RESPECT is the name of the game…all parents sign and must abide by same code of conduct as coaches. gaa has a discipline issue..and tyrone gaa has a serious discipline issue..
Gotta love the high horsing from the Rogby crowd.
http://www.herald.ie/news/rugby-player-loses-sight-in-alleged-eyegouging-2981702.html
Northern Ireland teams by and large seem to take pride in being bullies. My own club was playing in an u14 game in Antrim a few years ago and the abuse both verbal and physical they received at the hands of kids of their own age was shocking. One favourite way of intimidating players was to grab their “privates”. This was widespread over the field and because the ref was from the north as well he turned a blind eye. Yet when one of our players lost it and retaliated he was red carded straight away. It seems the kids are trained from an early age that it is winning that counts – never mind how. And croke park are powerless when it comes down to it – the ulster council are a law unto themselves.
Agree that anything along the lines of teaching kids to grab each others privates is a fairly serious matter!
I do feel that northern teams tend to get scapegoated a litte in the “bullying” tactics. nothing wrong with physical hard play – we can’t all be Kerry! but obviously theres a line that shouldnt be crossed!
Thuggery/ Brawling exists in every sport. Rugby and Soccer included so get off your high horses there. The key is how the governing body reacts. The GAA could do with coming down hard on this but to suggest it is a GAA only problem stinks of bias. I see more unpunished punches thrown in rugby than in GAA to be honest. In soccer it is more mouthing off continuously. GAA has the odd brawl but it is the most popular sport in Ireland so more games means more chance of this type of thing happening. You dont hear about it in club rugby games because hardly anyone plays rugby!
talking thru your rear. rugby is fastest growing field sport n.ireland. pray tell me the last brawl at a rugby match involving players being kicked on.the ground by spectators! our rules in rugby are crystal clear..unlike the vague laissez faire mish mash in gaa..how many rugby refs assaulted in comparison to gaa and soccer refs. only person on high horse is you
it may be the fastest growing but it will never surpass GAA. Rugby is confined to small pockets. GAA is played throughout the land. There are plenty of brawls in rugby. Here is a brawl involving one of the games biggest players and his father gets involved!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49fe6BXRFWQ&feature=player_embedded
Rugby rules are enforced a lot more stringently though. I will give you that and the respect shown to referees is an example to all sports
Hardly anyone plays rugby quote is a little off the mark but then again one must make allowances for such comments.
ok much and all as i hate to turn this into a GAA vs Rugby – its what i’m gonna do (soccer i’m ignoring as GAA and Rugby are natural physical sports). rugby has citing whereby if caught on camera you can be sanctioned after the game. rugby has the 3rd man in rule which in almost all cases stops a tussle from getting out of hand (i want to be clear here that i think a tussle – involving 2 players can be a very natural occurance in a physical sport).
the absence of a 3rd man in rule and the absence of serious sanctions for those caught on camera – along with the nonsense whereby referees and supporters tend to view cards as ruining the game – will in fact destroy the game – much like where ozzie rules was going before they cleaned it up! the lesson is that they did clean it up.
football and hurling could be cleaned up in a matter of a months worth of well refereed match – amateur or professional – none of the players are stupid – they’ll all react to rules and we’ll all be happier to see it!
ps lets not go crazy about Harinordoquys dad! look at the reaction of the players to it – they dont want to get involved with him and try to calm the situation – can you really say thats what you’d expect to see in a GAA match?
rugby participation in Ireland is indeed tiny compared to GAA so comparing instances of violence is skewed
emmoman – so do you consider this to be an acceptable level of violence being displayed? given that there are so many GAA players and so few playing lesser sports??
just a little perspective rob
also, this is not a northern thing and saying it is is borderline sectarian. plenty of good gaels up there who play a good brand of fair football
to be fair i do accept your point that gaa will have more instances of everything as they play more players / more clubs / more games – but its not really relevant here.
it is a matter of fact though that there is a problem in the GAA with these mass brawls – no other sport (including ice hockey) has the same problem.
my point is that other sports have done more to eradicate the violence than the GAA – not who plays most or not. the GAA is way behind the curve on this – and someones gonna get hurt soon and they’ll quite possibly be negligent in respect of their members!
easiest thing in the world to fix! there are 7 officals watching a game (ref / linesmen / umpires). if 2 players have an altercation it should be reported and they should be warned or yellow carded. if anyone else gets involved then they should be immediately given a yellow or red card – if the whole team get involved then they should all be sent off – yes it would be a farce if it came to this – but there can no longer be protection for players who think that one in – all in is a protection for them!
ok then laws…..
*shakes head*
rugby people
This is another example of the quote
“rugby is a ruffians game played by gentlemen soccer is a gentlemans game played by ruffians and g a a is a ruffians game played by ruffians”
A normal day out for the hardy bucks and this is why g a a football NOT hurling attracts the ruffian culture
I knew as soon as I read this story that the rugby crowd would jump in and start moralising and preaching and I was bang on. If rugby wasn’t played at such a small level across the country then you can be guaranteed we would be hearing more stories of eye-gouging, stamping on heads, etc.
The GAA has almost become a victim of its own success in that there are a staggering number of games played at local level across the country every weekend. That can never excuse this kind of brutal thuggery but when you have so many games being played in a physically hard-hitting sport like Gaelic football, there is always the potential for a few thugs to leave their mark.
While it’s only right and proper that the Gardai are involved in this matter, it’s also time for the GAA to really send a message and make an example out of Tyrone.
Physically hard hitting – that a joke !
no respect for anything in the gaa
have taken my kids out of local gaa following the same kind of thing week in week out in their games
ironic that it is kerry senior footballers who have been guilty of exaclty this kind of behaviour over the last few years
Getting back to yesterday. Dromid accept they lost the sporting game. The Gaa needs to act on the nonplaying club members and supports who got involved. Simple to ban all Tyrone teams supporters from croke park for final and ban the subs and managment from pitchside and stand. Let them in dressing room.
The Dubs started it all !
Tyrone teams never let foot-ball get in the way of a good brawl!
Was little more than handbags that you would get every weekend up and down the country with very few real punches thrown…of course noone wants to see these minor scuffles at any games, It begins to look like sour grapes from a Kerry side which were comprehensively beaten in the end by a well drilled Derrytresk team making their first appearance at this level. This one minute aside, well done to the Derrytresk men and good luck in the final…As for our more sectarian Kerry posters above who bring it down to the “Doirty Northerners” level as usual…cop yerself on…Tyrone have played the best brand of attacking and defensive football consistantly over the last 10 years in the All Ireland series and to assuage that they are all thugs who only win matches through intimidation is only showing you for the begrudgers when you lose that you obviously must be…
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Just another small matter there are no such thing as rules in rugby there are laws so i would suggest a little research before you bother to comment.
This is a general comment as I didn’t see the footage in question but I have always been disgusted by the GAAs apparent unwilligness to deal with these events properly.
When a scuffle breaks out the two players involved should obviously be yellow carded but the third (& subsequent) player(s) into the fight should be red carded immediately and banned! It’s the players diving in afterwards that make it a brawl. And, imo, any teams involved in mass brawls should be kicked out of the competition and banned for a year.
Any spectators involved should be reported to the Gardaí for assault.
The only way to stamp this sort of thing out is to deal with it very severely. They bring shame on our fine sports.
Bring back Judge Nealon
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/GAA+STAR+PAYS+pounds+15K+FOR+KICKING+PLAYER+IN+HEAD%3B+Thug+gets+5yr…-a0138254247