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6 Nations road to redemption still exists for Trimble and Court

Ireland’s assistant coach Les Kiss insisted that all players in the ‘A’ squad could still feature against Wales.

Andrew Trimble looked lively in training today.
Andrew Trimble looked lively in training today.
Image: ©INPHO/Lorraine O'Sullivan

ULSTER’S REWARD FOR winning their pool and reaching the Heineken Cup quarter finals is to have eight players named in the Ireland Wolfhounds squad.

Darren Cave and Paul Marshall find themselves in familiar territory but Andrew Trimble and Tom Court will have to shelve all ideas of demotion and do some damage against the England Saxons on Friday night.

Ulster rugby supporters will be frustrated that some of their star names are being asked to prove themselves again after winning 16 or 18 matches this season.

From a national perspective, however, Trimble and Court did not cover themselves in glory when they last wore green.

The winger was a liability against South Africa in November and Court got pummelled in the scrum as an early replacement for the injured Mike Ross against England eight months earlier.

Door remains open

Ireland assistant coach Les Kiss, flanked by Cave and Dave Kilcoyne of Munster, fielded questions at today’s squad announcement and declared that squad places for the Wales opener in the Six Nations are still up for grabs.

He said, “Having the group together, and the strength of the group together, to prepare for Wales is good. With the Wolfhounds game on Friday comes a similar opportunity to that of [the] Fiji game.

It’s an opportunity for guys to put their hand up. Anyone who is in that squad is going to be considered for the full squad for the Welsh match next week.

“We may have [a squad] of 30 to 32 so anyone can force themselves into the squad and, saying that, force themselves into the team.”

Kiss added that it was ‘never in the forefront’ of management’s thinking to include Rob Kearney or Brian O’Driscoll in the 23-man squad.

He commented, “We saw it as an opportunity if game time didn’t come to them and they needed a bit more but they are both seasoned and felt comfortable where they were.

“We didn’t even broach the question with them really.”

No questions for O’Driscoll or Kearney but some answers required from the successful Ulster contingent in Galway.

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Comments (11 Comments)

  • Court is a good loosehead but played out of position at tighthead. I felt sorry for him last year. He was a victim of a lack of forsight by the IRFU who seemed to think that having one international tighthead per era, i.e. Hayes and Ross. Court has been in good form this year and worth a shot at redemption. He’s playing catch up to Healy and Kilcoyne in fairness, but he’s a good guy to have about the place.

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    • Sorry I hit a red by mistake.
      Court is a loosehead but told everyone he could play both sides. Then he got slaughtered and now is seen as a liability. apart from that I think he should have gone off v England when he realised he was causing the problems and I think the game would have gone uncontested in the scrum.
      He has has a great season for munster as a loosehead.
      I you can only bring one replacement prop it has to be a tight head as its far more difficult to play tight and switching to lose is easier than the other way around.
      Killer as they call him has earned a chance to push at Healy and maybe do the job after 60 minutes when Healy tires.

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    • @chris
      He can’t just ‘go off’, it has to be the result of an injury.

      If Ireland had another prop on the bench he must be replaced and scrums continue as normal

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    • We had already lost Ross, scrums would have gone unconstested, he could have taken a dive when he realised he was causing slaughter against us.

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  • Court had only visibly been slaughtered when he has been asked to play out of position. Too often he had had to come on as tight head because of a lack back up in that area for Ireland. The last two seasons he has been probably one of the best 3/4 scrummaging loose heads in Europe.

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  • In fairness to Court he was asked to play at tighthead against Enland in last year’s 6N. Now that teams in the 6N are allowed substitute cover for both specialist prop positions he may get to play in his preferred position of loosehead where he has been excelling for Ulster this season, though he and Kcoyne are still behind Cian Healy in the pecking order.

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    • As much as I’d love to see Kilcoyne play for Ireland I’m in no rush to wish him away. Murray was snapped up to Ireland set up prematurely and in my book his game stunted a bit (hard to blame him, still great talent with meteoric rise) so the more space for Kilcoyne to develop the better!

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    • Has the 23 man panel come in for the 6n this year?? Thank jebus…. I thought it was next year….

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  • Both players can’t make the step up to international level.

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    • It’s true. I can’t remember Court ever getting anything but roasted wearing the green and Trimble is too inconsistent when he puts it on. Court tries too much to walk around with a frown and trying to posture around like a hard boy.

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