The Leinster centre is not the only rugby figure to have marched in solidarity with the people of Gaza, as former Ireland second row Trevor Hogan was also photographed at the protests.
Popular Dublin restaurant The Exchequer – which is co-owned by D’Arcy – last weekend announced that it had decided to no longer stock Israeli goods. The business, which has outlets in Dublin city centre and Ranelagh, took to Facebook to call for a boycott of Israeli products.
Speaking at Leinster’s UCD headquarters this afternoon as the province launched their new European jersey, 78-times capped D’Arcy explained why he had put his support behind the people of Gaza.
Because there are people dying in Gaza and the whole situation there, I just don’t agree with what’s happening. What we wrote on our Facebook page with the Exchequer, war crimes, effectively genocide, and all these things that are happening in that part of the world.
“We can’t actively go and do anything about it, but we can say ‘I don’t believe what’s happening is right’ and try to put a bit of pressure on our government to make some sort of stance and just show a bit of solidarity with the people of Gaza.
“That’s the most important thing, the people of Gaza and they’re the ones who are unfortunately the ones who are feeling the brunt of what’s happening. They are literally caught in the middle of a horrible, horrible worldwide tragedy that nobody seems to be doing anything about.”
Asked whether he believed Ireland could be putting more pressure on Israel, D’Arcy responded:
I think we could… again, I don’t expect them to be… we are a neutral country. But there are elements where we could be putting pressure, our government could be putting pressure on the Israeli ambassador and as a country, we could be putting more pressure on people.
“Probably what we’re hoping for – the government aren’t going to listen to 2,000 people. There’s a big march this weekend and hopefully we get good numbers out for that.
“The Irish people make a little bit of an effort and, as we say to boycott some Israeli goods and make it known that Irish people don’t stand for this kind of thing either.”
Its an absolute joke whats happening in gaza all the major political figures around the world who are doing noting in there power to help them would want to hang there heads in shame .
When’s the march on I am going to bring up some carrots from Kinvarra – had some on Sunday – they were beautiful and sweet …They might look good on a plate in The Exchequer !
I shall donate them freely if they want them !
When are you and the other Israel apologists going to start supporting Assad ? Isn’t he just defending himself as well? Just like poor old Israel , or is it just IDF murders you support?
That argument could be used for anyone speaking out against something. The fact is he’s here now and he’s speaking out on this issue. fair play to him!
A point regarding Syria that I feel must be made is this – we saw refugee camps in Lebanon I think it was and we can donate money or even the clothes of our backs to the child victims of the Syrian conflict – it’s not good enough I agree, but at least we can show our support for human life – with GAZA they have to sit and wait for attacks from the air and from soldiers while hemmed in by a fence on land and a blockade by sea …. there are no refugee camps for Gaza .
.the I.D.F. are beginning to remind me of Ralph Fiennes in Schindler’s List when he took out the rifle and the bottle of whiskey !
No , it was the other comment Dermot, I am sick of hearing the what about Syria line while at the same time they never ask why the only country to still receive massive aid and diplomatic cover while carrying out these vicious attacks is Israel, at least Assad is threatened with sanctions and military attacks , plus military aid to his enemies.
Great news this evening that SuperValu/ Centra have withdrawn All Israeli Products in joining the Boycott.
Congratulations – I will continue to be a Customer of your great shops !
Fantastic news in the past hour…the BDS campaign is getting bigger and bigger…Super Valu have just anmounced that their 232 stores are currently having ALL israeli goods removed from their shelves! Take a bow Super Valu…the first of many hopefully
@ Taxi, how do you know that D’Arcy has not previously spoken out against the situation in Syria or elsewhere.
Secondly, the argument that those people who have not, apparently, spoke out against other atrocities have no right to condemn Israels act of genocide is fallacious. The logic of this argument is that because other nations have committed atrocities Israel should be permitted to commit atrocities and those who object are racially motivated.
Thirdly, Israel is exceptional, in so far, as it holds an unassailable record for consistent violations of UN resolutions and human rights violations. Syria and Sudan aren’t in Israels league in this respect.
@Jonny ..one to cure your obsession about Hamas – israeli authorities using Mossad created Hamas to turn the Palestinians against Fatah/PLO!!! : http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ZER403A.html
@dermot Ryan, good man Dermot, i’ll look forward to some of those sweet carrots from Kinvara ,
I can see it now, Charlie Flanagan on the loud-haler , the riot squad, (shatter in his ear), as he shouts ‘ ‘Put down the carrots slooowly, and put your hands in the air’……..
Gordon is just another clown who has jumped on the Gaza bandwagon, when he makes a statement condemning the murdering Islamists of ISIS I might have a bit of respect for him, I won’t be holding my breath
Jopmarsy, Isis is what happens when America and Europe replaces the existing ruling structure with D’mawcrissy in nations that have never understood the concept.
Great article by Donal Og Cusack in the examiner last week about why sports and politics should mix when needed.
Arab English cricket players are banned from wearing anything in support of their fellow Arabs in Palestine because its “political”, but are then forced to wear emblems celebrating British war dead. The hypocrisy is unreal.
Debatable this one in fact the England and Wales cricket board allowed it, it’s the international cricket body that are investigating it and haven’t delivered a mandate just yet
Syria is not a one sided war – people are not in a prison camp with no escape, blockaded on all sides. Get real folks. This is a supposed civilised nation bombarding a small state into the dark ages.
I don’t agree with what’s happening either. I’m with you Gordon and, I suspect, the vast majority of Irish people. And before some numbskull says it, to be anti Israeli is not to be anti Jewish or pro Hamas.
If Gaza stops sending missiles into Israel, then Israel will stop sending missiles into Gaza. Hamas is sacrificing its own people in a battle to win support for its cause! Quite a number of Arab States do not support Hamas. Consider what response you would want from the Irish Army if missiles being directed at Dublin, Galway or Limerick?
Now don’t be making out the Palestinians to be saints. Before Hamas they did a lot of things to protect soldiers and civilians at checkpoints and within Israel from being killed by suicide bombers in the form of Fatah.
The first suicide attack in Palestine/Israel didn’t occur until 1989, two years after Hamas was founded. The first, and one of very few, suicide attack that possibly involved Fatah (they actually condemned this attack) was in 2002. What were you saying about suicide attacks “before” Hamas?
You are missing the point Danny. If Hamas wanted to stop THIS conflict, they would stop sending missiles, which are being rendered useless by the Israelis! There is some ignorance out there on this issue and Hamas are capitalising on it at the expense of its own people. Seriously, how would you expect Israel to respond?
Are you suggesting that if Hamas had stopped firing rockets that Israel would have discontinued it’s offensive, when it’s stated objectives were to get rid of the tunnels and demilitarize Gaza.
Seriously, how would you expect people to respond to decades of oppression, occupation and blockades? If you hadn’t noticed Hamas has released requirements for them to stop firing rockets several times and every time it’s been ignored by the mainstream media and Israel. The Palestinians have sent a delegation to Egypt to negotiate a ceasefire, but Israel only seems interested in proposing ceasefires when it doesn’t involve negotiating with the Palestinians. This outbreak started when Netanyahu accused Hamas of kidnapping three boys without any evidence and even now when it’s become clear that it was almost certainly a splinter group, an unaffiliated group or a rogue group acting without orders from Hamas leadership, they still falsely accuse Hamas of doing so. Israel, like Hamas (expect for Hamas there are ceasefires arranged without consulting them), has proven unable to stick to ceasefires, even their own. Israel broke its last ceasefire within 6 minutes. If Israel wanted to stop this outbreak they would have engaged in negotiations instead of spreading lies and exaggerations. This outbreak won’t stop with Hamas simply giving up their resistance. Maybe you haven’t been paying attention, but Netanyahu made it pretty clear that Israel has other goals.
I’d also like to point out that there’s no evidence of those tunnels being used for cross border attacks until the last 2 weeks and it’s well known that their primary use is the transport of supplies which can’t be transported into Gaza any other way due to the Israeli blockade.
Come off it Danny. Hamas have been using these tunnels for years and building new ones to bring in weapons and illegal goods. People aren’t entirely ignorant in this country and we can all see the product of this when hundreds of rockets get fired into Israel on a daily basis. To say otherwise is disingenuous. Danny what are the goals of Hamas? And when they achieve these goals what will be the goal of Hamas in the surrounding nations?
“Though Israel maintained its siege, Hamas observed the cease-fire, as Israel concedes. Matters changed in April of this year when Fatah and Hamas forged a unity agreement that established a new government of technocrats unaffiliated with either party.
Israel was naturally furious, all the more so when even the Obama administration joined the West in signaling approval. The unity agreement not only undercuts Israel’s claim that it cannot negotiate with a divided Palestine but also threatens the long-term goal of dividing Gaza from the West Bank and pursuing its destructive policies in both regions.
Something had to be done, and an occasion arose on June 12, when the three Israeli boys were murdered in the West Bank. Early on, the Netanyahu government knew that they were dead, but pretended otherwise, which provided the opportunity to launch a rampage in the West Bank, targeting Hamas.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu claimed to have certain knowledge that Hamas was responsible. That too was a lie.
One of Israel’s leading authorities on Hamas, Shlomi Eldar, reported almost at once that the killers very likely came from a dissident clan in Hebron that has long been a thorn in the side of Hamas. Eldar added that “I’m sure they didn’t get any green light from the leadership of Hamas, they just thought it was the right time to act.”
The 18-day rampage after the kidnapping, however, succeeded in undermining the feared unity government, and sharply increasing Israeli repression. Israel also conducted dozens of attacks in Gaza, killing five Hamas members on July 7.
Hamas finally reacted with its first rockets in 19 months, providing Israel with the pretext for Operation Protective Edge on July 8.
By July 31, around 1,400 Palestinians had been killed, mostly civilians, including hundreds of women and children. And three Israeli civilians. Large areas of Gaza had been turned into rubble. Four hospitals had been attacked, each another war crime.”
From Moshe Feiglin’s Facebook page, deputy speaker of the Knesset
:
“As opposed to ‘Exodus’ in the forties, the coming decade’s Exodus will meet a strong Jewish State of Israel; an Israel that opens its gates to the new immigrants and protects them – if it will only realize who it is and who are its enemies…
I repeat once again: 1.5 million Jews will be immigrating to Israel in the coming decade. They will change our entire geo-political perspective from its very foundation.
For every miserable family in Gaza, there is a Jewish home being vacated in Paris and Belgium.
The Land of our Forefathers is waiting with open arms for every Jew in Paris and Belgium – and the rest of the world.”
He wrote this, he feels the need to take the homes of “every miserable family in Gaza” to house 1.5 million emmigrants. A truly nasty man with warped ideals.
From the State of Israel Ministry of Defense, Food Consumption in the Gaza Strip –
Red Lines:
“As part of the policy formulated by the Security Cabinet on September 19, 2007, Israel will limit the entry of goods into the Gaza Strip.
In order to allow for a basic fabric of life in the Gaza Strip, the deputy defense minister approved allowing 106 trucks carrying basic humanitarian products into the Gaza
Strip, mostly food (all products are specified in the appendices). In addition, food in seed form was approved for entry via the aggregate conveyor belt located near the
Karni crossing.
This research examines the main food component.
The basis for the analysis is a model formulated by the Ministry of Health (at this point, according to average Israeli consumption) and a model formulated by the
Palestinian Ministry of Economy.
The Ministry of Health is conducting work for calculating the minimal subsistence basket based on the Arab sector in Israel. The “minimum basket” allows nutrition that is
sufficient for subsistence without the development of malnutrition”
Everything is illegal goods there when it isn’t handled by Israel. Yes they’ve been using them for years, yes they’ve used them to bring in weapons, but they’re mostly used to bring in regular supplies that they can’t bring in because of the Israeli led blockade. Israel is now portraying them as “terror tunnels” used to carry out cross border raids. Hamas has various goals, but I’m assuming you’re talking about the goals in relation to the implementation of their form of Sharia Law and also the destruction of Israel and murder of Jews as it says in their charter even though their leaders have since come out saying otherwise (this is in reliant to the killing of Jews thing), but we don’t hear about that because it doesn’t fit our image of Hamas. I don’t like Hamas and I don’t like their ideology, but I prefer dealing with facts and evidence on all sides of the debate
And just to be clear, like them or not, Hamas were democratically elected in 2006 in a fair and open election. They were not the party Israel or the US wanted, thus we see how far the situation has come in the desire to destroy Hamas. The only way to remove Hamas should be through free and fair elections. If Gaza was able to function as a normal country then the people of Gaza could choose new leadership when they decide Hamas are not up to the job.
Apart from reading my previous comments Pol Mag, perhaps this goes some way towards justifying it. Be warned, it is horrific, if you don’t like the sight of dead Palestinian children with half their head missing I suggest you don’t look at it. It is horrific, but it is what is happening:
Pól, I don’t condone firing rockets from densely populated civilian areas, even though that’s what most of Gaza is. However, what you showed us is a 4:22 long video of a man making speculations with no evidence and then showing a cloud of smoke that could be a Hamas rocket, an Israeli missile or an unrelated incident. There was no hard evidence in that video and it doesn’t definitively prove anything. Speculation is all it is.
This has bothered me for some time now, could you explain how Hamas are able to get those rockets into Gaza it being surrounded by israel and egypt, borders are closed btw.
Because the way i see it is that israel (mosad) must be either shit at their jobs or they let it happen to prolong the war.
Think about it how else would hamas be able to bring these 4-5 ft rockets, remember thats FEET not inches, into gaza.
Are they standing outside these tunnels waiting for a shipment, then throw one over the shoulder and off down the tunnel they go.
Every one here supporting israel say that iran are supplying them with these rockets, how.
Have hamas built one of the modern marvels of construction by creating tunnels that go all the way to iran some 1000 km (maybe more) border to border.
Looked around the internet because I wasn’t actually sure. My own guess was through tunnels between Gaza and Egypt. But when I looked around and apparently they bring these rockets into Israel via old Lebanese tunnels used by militants during previous wars. And they also look pretty big to me. They also showed one of the tunnels between Gaza and the West Bank on CNN the other night and that also looked big to me. Check it out and look at other sources but the rockets have to come from somewhere all several thousand of them.
That still fails to explain how they get them through Egypt and Israel in the first place and how they’re getting them all the way from Iran apparently without protection
Well Danny whatever way they get the weapons in are you denying that they have launched thousands of missiles into Israel? Do you believe this is acceptable behaviour?
Egypt have closed all borders with Gaza, israel have a blockade in place and monitor everything that goes into gaza.
(they bring these rockets into Israel via old Lebanese tunnels) thats one of my points here Pol how are they able to bring these rockets through israel without they knowing. Just doesn’t make sence.
Now i hope you also know that to build tunnels from Lebanon to gaza would still be a feat that many modern countries would not nor could afford to do 190km, thats approx 160 km longer than the longest tunnels in the world to date, the swiss are building a train tunnel thats 34 kms and its going to cost over 34 billion thats right BILLION.
The west bank is approx 64ml from gaza which would still be twice the lengh of the swiss tunnel and plus those tunnels would also have to be dug right under the noses of the israeli army. ???
So I have come to the conclusion that the israelis were aware of these tunnels all along.
Think about it both sides are fighting or at least trying to fight a war.
That means both sides need weapons, you can’t fight a war when only one side has weapons, makes sense because if say israel started bombing gaza and hamas had no weapons to fight back with it would be concidered genocide and no modern country would want that to harm their international standings and business relations.
But hey thats just what i think.
(your very formal) ya must change that on the facebook thing.
I am just stating you were very formal in your reply. You usually don’t see formal writing on the comments section. Relax. Lol.
I see your point Timothy. It does make sense. I would like to know how Gazans have access to such weapons and where they are getting them from. On sky news the other day a reporter passed through the border between Gaza and Israel and it took him a hour and half to get through what looked like very tight security. So I wonder about how and why the Israelis would allow arms through their borders. I recently read a book on the Berlin wall and in it the author describes the efforts of people in East Berlin to escape. They dug tunnels under the wall and out into basements on the other side. I know we are talking about miles in this case but it has to be possible in some way. If there is a will there is a way. The tunnels have been shown on television in the news and reporters have treked though them. Either way your point doesn’t deter from the fact that thousands of missiles have been fired across the border into Israel. They had to have come from somewhere through some supply line.
@ Pol, I would normally I would not be so flippant but since some people are being here, I might as well join in! If I was being targeted, kept in an open air prison, controlled, my family and community being killed and kidnapped. I can safely tell you I would be finding the nearest supply of rockets and launching them ten a penny. So do I believe it is acceptable behavior? All day every day and I hope they burn in hell! Now that I have gotten and over exaggerated point off my chest! Please see the below link and excellent article who will give you all the truths you need. I hope
Fog ****** lunatic and Johnnyfive are reading this, I’m really looking forward to their insights to anti-smite arguments!!!! (note for anyone that did not know taht Noam is the “father of modern linguistics” and is Jewish!)
Im not trying to say their not firing those rockets, the point im trying to make is HOW they’re getting them.
You said that you watched a sky news report on the security at the border I watched the same report which is why I started wondering about it in the first place, an hour and a half with a caged tunnel of 700m to walk through.
Now we both know that Israel controls every inch of that border you saw that yourself so they must know when and where these rockets are being carried into the gaza strip.
So here again i will try to make my point. Israel needs hamas to have weapons they can’t bomb a defenceless people it’s genocide.
So what do they do about that little problem, simple they leave a certain amount of them through. When hamas have enough to couse a certain amount of damage without being a direct risk to the israeli people (because of iron dome) then they stop it.
Anything hamas try to bring in after that would be concidered fare game for the israeli army, hence the Cycle Of Violence begins again.
Ther will never be peace in Israel/Palistine. Theres simply too much at stake for both sides to lose.
Pól I am in no way denying that Hamas and Islamic Jihad are firing rockets from civilians areas into civilian areas, that they are using tunnels to enter Israel or that they use tunnels to transport goods including weapons. However, there are two things that we know. Firstly, there is no evidence available to us that these tunnels were used to carry out assaults until two weeks ago. And secondly, these tunnels that are used to transport weapons are predominantly used to transport goods and supplies as they have done for many years. I have already said that I don’t condone the firing of rockets from and into civilian areas, whether it is Hamas or Israel. It is a violation of international law. However, I fully support resistance to oppression and I can do that while criticising various actions, groups and ideologies involved in that resistance. Is that clear enough?
Now, in regards to the possibility of tunnels going across Israel to places like Lebanon. I don’t see it as likely. Just to construct something that long would require a constant supply of oxygen, as we saw with the construction of the Channel Tunnel, and then to operate it they would also need oxygen as well as electricity etc and it simply doesn’t seem likely that Hamas or another similar group would have the equipment or expertise to carry out such a project.
Irish protestors, especially those on the radical left, always come out and say “We are not anti-Jewish, we are anti-Israeli.” This is Byzantine logic. The truth is that were Israel a Muslim state and not a Jewish one, there would be no protests in Ireland, no calls for a boycott, no attacking of places of worship (Belfast synagogue anyone?), no attacking Muslim passers by (as happened to French Jews in Paris) or chanting “Gas the Arabs” (as happened in Berlin). How do I know this?
Because there were no such street protests in Dublin when Radical Islam was kidnapping Nigerian schoolgirls (Boko Haram), or beheading Iraqi Shi’ite boys in their hundreds (ISIS), or gassing Sunni civilians (incl. Palestinians in Syria (Asad) or burning Christians out of their homes (ISIS). Because if the killers are Muslim or Arab we don’t give a shit and nor do our media. But when the killers are Jewish, then it’s “hey, let’s turn the clock back to 1938, and boycott Israel”.
I do not hear anyone here criticising Egypt for blocking their side of the Gaza border and unlike the Israelis, allowing no medical aid into the Strip.
Our fear of Radical Islam is pathetic. But Israel is surrounded by enemies who want to wipe them off the face of the earth (Syria, Qatar, Iran, Saudi Arabia etc.) so they often shoot first and ask questions later.
That said, good luck being a democrat, a socialist, a liberal, a woman, gay, or a religious minority in the Arab world. But hey, feel free to back the jihad.
Where’s Foggy, Charles , Jop and jenni now – afraid of real homegrown Irish heroes …afraid to display their arguments in front of Mna na hEireann who will be tuning into one of our greatest rugby heroes !
Check out these disgusting tweets from teenage Israelis. You can click the links and copy/paste each one into Google Translate (or just take the authors word for it as he has translated them all).
Wouldn’t it be great to see Gordon D’Arcy standing in the local by- election in Dublin ..on a “Thou shalt not kill ” platform …
It is one way of delivering a message to Government – and they would listen !
They might stop throwing another DArcy in jail then as well – ‘cos even Gordon Darcy knows that Ireland is Neutral..
Well done Gordon, a man of principle with the ba**s to stand up for the defenceless. Unlike the rest of the D4 brigade, hiding in their bunkers in case they’d get hit in the pocket. Where is the great BOD now when it really matters.
Murray why publish this on the sports pages? That’s D’arcy’s opinion and he’s entitled to say what he likes and march with whomever he wants. He is a current Irish rugby international and should have retired if he wanted to be an activist. Bringing politics onto the rugby pages where people go for a diversion from the seriousness of everyday life is not on…we get Gaza on the news continuously and can form our own opinions.
Nobody agrees with the slaughter of people but that is the overriding consequence of war and civilian casualties are normally higher than military. Would Gordan D’arcy advocate not defending Dublin if it were being shelled from a schoolyard or church somewhere nearby in Dun Laoighaire?
Where did you form your ‘opinion’ about missiles from schools etc. And how does that relate to Gaza?
What Israel has claimed is that missiles are fired from ‘in the vicinity of ‘ schools etc. Not the same thing.
I’m sure Gordon D’Arcy doesn’t mind his profession profile getting this story noticed so I don’t agree that you say it doesn’t belong on the sports pages if a actor actress does the same it would be on show business pages
If he was just normal Joe this article wouldn’t be written at all
He using his profile to push the agenda and fair play for that
If ya don’t what to read gaza all the time avoid the article be it in sport or what ever pages.
I’m not sure what Darcy’s reaction would be, but I’m fairly certain his response wouldn’t be to raze Dun Laoighaire to the ground, bulldoze the rubble and survivors into the sea and build a settlement there.
So public figures should not use their status to be political?!?? What a crock! If we left public faces out if it you would have us real people trying to be heard and a bunch of irresponsible politicians and spineless corporate yes-men unwilling and unable to take action! Good on him I say!
Have a read of SImon Cowell for Prime Minister. It’s a study which looks at how people who are in the public eye become political and the effect they can have on public perceptions. Everything is political Des, even sports!
I didn’t see Gordon D’Arcy getting out on the street for the banking crisis for people in his own country. But I suppose you can always put up a banner in the window “No Israeli goods sold here” in the window and it will raise the brand. You can’t do that with domestic issues…
I didn’t see most people going out to show their outrage, there were people protesting etc, but most people just sat at home moaning and then chose not to vote in elections
But yet everyone publicly gets in a twist over something that is happening hundreds of miles away. Our opinions don’t matter in this conflict. If we were to do something people like Gerry Adams and Ian Paisley once sworn enemies would be talking to both sides to end this. Our celebrity egos and protests will achieve nothing. Red thumb all you want but the fact is we had a chance to show the world we were not to messed with and we blew it. Why should they listen now?
Ireland still has to potential to influence the situation. We need to pressure our own government into taking action first, pressure them into breaking the status quo in Europe
We don’t know because they don’t give background financial information when suicides are reported Gav. ..but we know of at least one person who lost hope from the whole Priory Hall episode …My guess is that there are hundreds !
there are over 150,000 Irish-born economic refugees in Canada Australia and loads of Irish women goen to London as fully qualified nurses after the exchequer has spent c. 90,000 of taxpayers money training them …these “victims” are hard to count …I do know that some of the bankers who were found guilty in a Criminal Court are doing 240 hours of community service !
Fair point – they were jumping out of buildings in Spain…and do you remember the report of the Sherriff in Dublin when he went to evict a lady by pre-arrangement and found her dead in the apartment – what a waste of life !
James unfortunately kids are dying. I am not a monster despite what you might think. But we have a lot of issues in our own country. A lot of people have died in this country because of the banking crisis we don’t hear about it because our domestic news spends most of it’s time monitoring global issues. My point is we seem to stand up for everyone bar ourselves and if we have such great activists in this country why do we have so many social problems and such ear deafening silence on them?
Graham what makes your opinion any better than anybody elses?
You’re a bit of a monster Pol. You seem upset that people care about children being killed by a nation that is aligned to the West and is funded by the West. Perhaps Irish people care more about death than money? Your point is in fact simple support of the current Israeli regieme, judging by your previous comments. You’re just trying to change tack here.
Sorry Dog Standard but I didn’t upload pictures of dead people via an account that does not show my name or face. You clearly have a point I have mine. Just because I don’t share your views does not make me a monster.
Pol ahs appoint …Pol if I may – the Irish have never marched because of poverty – they fight because of poverty – The news today that water charges are going to be double for farmers is probably going to bring the GOVERNMENT DOWN !
Farmers are seething and they will only let it go so far !
@ Pol Ma. I never said that you are a monster. You are comparing the banking crises to a war where Isreal is purposely targeting the children of Gaza and killing them. This is Genocide just because the west dose not recognize it as such dose not change the fact that it is. Yes the banking crises has caused many to die by suicide and stress related illnesses as a result of it. AS a person who has lost a lot of friends to suicide over my life time I do emphasis and I have the greatest sympathy for the families and friends who have lost loved ones. However it is unreasonable to suggest that it was the deliberate intention of those who caused the banking crises for people to die as a result of what they were doing. You can not compare the two of them as similar. In fact it is down right insulting to the hundreds of children murder Gaza over the last few weeks to suggest that they are similar.
I agree that we have a lot of problems here in our own country and that they don’t get the attention that they deserve in the media. And we in this country don’t stand up for ourselves when it comes to highlighting these issues. But this is a complete diffrent problem to the slaughter of the innocent children of Gaza.This is hardly the place to highlight our own problems here In Ireland. Gordon D’Arcy has a right to use his celebrity states to speech out against this Genocide. In fact I believe we all have a moral duty to do so.
James I know you didn’t the other person called me that. I copied a link clearly on another post below showing one instance of Hamas militants in a densely built up area preparing rockets and firing into Israel. The journalist filmed the footage from a balcony to show the other side to the conflict. You should have a look.
Who rebuilds Gaza after all this is over, not Israel, not the USA if history repeats itself it will be the EU. Yes! Your taxes will rebuild Gaza while Israel laughs all the way to the bank to spend it on weapons. Thanks Israel for screwing the Irish taxpayer, as if things were not hard enough.
Rugby teams are great for going on buses and travelling all over the country … I wonder if some of them will do the same for the weekend – Tralee rugby club for example showed great compassion young Donal Walsh …
Pol I get your point but here is no social welfare in Gaza – there are bullets without eyes and bombs without conscience as a daily diet there and no escape !
Pathetic is this country that fights for human rights all over the world but when it comes to Irish people living in poverty and eating out of soup kitchens daily there is no comment. Get off your high horse Doctor.
Dermot I get your point. But again whether people in Gaza, China or Brazil get social welfare or not is not our issues. My point throughout this whole conflict has been to look at both sides and form an opinion. The only difference between Israel and the Palestinians is the Israelis have better weapons. Their bullets and rockets are fired without conscience too. They just ain’t as sophisicated.
Pol it seems though that the kidnapping of the 3 Israeli teenagers was a”false flag” ,,,I could be wrong ..but if I amn’t then it looks like a proxy war …check out Miko Peled ..an Israeli Jew and one of the finest men I have ever seen on any media !
Well, I’m boycotting The Exchequer so !!! Not that this will make any difference either.
Let the Islamist Jihadists eat there – shut hasn’t Gordon grown the Islamist beard already anyway. #BoycottTheExchequer
Well done Gordon. I too support telling the Truth. The world can see the hypocrisy of Israeli lies at defence. Its not about defence. Its about genocide.
Is he banning American supplies from his restaurant too..soft drinks etc etc..because it is American who is training and supplying the Israeli forces..I’d think not…just another self proclaimed celeb jumping on the band wagon…
Bordeaux Bègles v Munster, Champions Cup quarter-final
4 mins ago
0
FreeDevelopment
IABA votes to become affiliated with World Boxing
23 mins ago
0
As it happened
Leinster v Glasgow Warriors, Champions Cup quarter-final
19 hrs ago
126
Sign in or create a free account
To continue reading create a free account
Or sign into an existing account
Your Cookies. Your Choice.
Cookies help provide our news service while also enabling the advertising needed to fund this work.
We categorise cookies as Necessary, Performance (used to analyse the site performance) and Targeting (used to target advertising which helps us keep this service free).
We and our 164 partners store and access personal data, like browsing data or unique identifiers, on your device. Selecting Accept All enables tracking technologies to support the purposes shown under we and our partners process data to provide. If trackers are disabled, some content and ads you see may not be as relevant to you. You can resurface this menu to change your choices or withdraw consent at any time by clicking the Cookie Preferences link on the bottom of the webpage .Your choices will have effect within our Website. For more details, refer to our Privacy Policy.Privacy Policy
We and our vendors process data for the following purposes:
Use precise geolocation data. Actively scan device characteristics for identification. Store and/or access information on a device. Personalised advertising and content, advertising and content measurement, audience research and services development.
Cookies Preference Centre
We process your data to deliver content or advertisements and measure the delivery of such content or advertisements to extract insights about our website. We share this information with our partners on the basis of consent. You may exercise your right to consent, based on a specific purpose below or at a partner level in the link under each purpose. Some vendors may process your data based on their legitimate interests, which does not require your consent. You cannot object to tracking technologies placed to ensure security, prevent fraud, fix errors, or deliver and present advertising and content, and precise geolocation data and active scanning of device characteristics for identification may be used to support this purpose. This exception does not apply to targeted advertising. These choices will be signaled to our vendors participating in the Transparency and Consent Framework.
Manage Consent Preferences
Necessary Cookies
Always Active
These cookies are necessary for the website to function and cannot be switched off in our systems. They are usually only set in response to actions made by you which amount to a request for services, such as setting your privacy preferences, logging in or filling in forms. You can set your browser to block or alert you about these cookies, but some parts of the site will not then work.
Targeting Cookies
These cookies may be set through our site by our advertising partners. They may be used by those companies to build a profile of your interests and show you relevant adverts on other sites. They do not store directly personal information, but are based on uniquely identifying your browser and internet device. If you do not allow these cookies, you will experience less targeted advertising.
Functional Cookies
These cookies enable the website to provide enhanced functionality and personalisation. They may be set by us or by third party providers whose services we have added to our pages. If you do not allow these cookies then these services may not function properly.
Performance Cookies
These cookies allow us to count visits and traffic sources so we can measure and improve the performance of our site. They help us to know which pages are the most and least popular and see how visitors move around the site. All information these cookies collect is aggregated and therefore anonymous. If you do not allow these cookies we will not be able to monitor our performance.
Store and/or access information on a device 111 partners can use this purpose
Cookies, device or similar online identifiers (e.g. login-based identifiers, randomly assigned identifiers, network based identifiers) together with other information (e.g. browser type and information, language, screen size, supported technologies etc.) can be stored or read on your device to recognise it each time it connects to an app or to a website, for one or several of the purposes presented here.
Personalised advertising and content, advertising and content measurement, audience research and services development 146 partners can use this purpose
Use limited data to select advertising 116 partners can use this purpose
Advertising presented to you on this service can be based on limited data, such as the website or app you are using, your non-precise location, your device type or which content you are (or have been) interacting with (for example, to limit the number of times an ad is presented to you).
Create profiles for personalised advertising 85 partners can use this purpose
Information about your activity on this service (such as forms you submit, content you look at) can be stored and combined with other information about you (for example, information from your previous activity on this service and other websites or apps) or similar users. This is then used to build or improve a profile about you (that might include possible interests and personal aspects). Your profile can be used (also later) to present advertising that appears more relevant based on your possible interests by this and other entities.
Use profiles to select personalised advertising 85 partners can use this purpose
Advertising presented to you on this service can be based on your advertising profiles, which can reflect your activity on this service or other websites or apps (like the forms you submit, content you look at), possible interests and personal aspects.
Create profiles to personalise content 39 partners can use this purpose
Information about your activity on this service (for instance, forms you submit, non-advertising content you look at) can be stored and combined with other information about you (such as your previous activity on this service or other websites or apps) or similar users. This is then used to build or improve a profile about you (which might for example include possible interests and personal aspects). Your profile can be used (also later) to present content that appears more relevant based on your possible interests, such as by adapting the order in which content is shown to you, so that it is even easier for you to find content that matches your interests.
Use profiles to select personalised content 35 partners can use this purpose
Content presented to you on this service can be based on your content personalisation profiles, which can reflect your activity on this or other services (for instance, the forms you submit, content you look at), possible interests and personal aspects. This can for example be used to adapt the order in which content is shown to you, so that it is even easier for you to find (non-advertising) content that matches your interests.
Measure advertising performance 136 partners can use this purpose
Information regarding which advertising is presented to you and how you interact with it can be used to determine how well an advert has worked for you or other users and whether the goals of the advertising were reached. For instance, whether you saw an ad, whether you clicked on it, whether it led you to buy a product or visit a website, etc. This is very helpful to understand the relevance of advertising campaigns.
Measure content performance 61 partners can use this purpose
Information regarding which content is presented to you and how you interact with it can be used to determine whether the (non-advertising) content e.g. reached its intended audience and matched your interests. For instance, whether you read an article, watch a video, listen to a podcast or look at a product description, how long you spent on this service and the web pages you visit etc. This is very helpful to understand the relevance of (non-advertising) content that is shown to you.
Understand audiences through statistics or combinations of data from different sources 76 partners can use this purpose
Reports can be generated based on the combination of data sets (like user profiles, statistics, market research, analytics data) regarding your interactions and those of other users with advertising or (non-advertising) content to identify common characteristics (for instance, to determine which target audiences are more receptive to an ad campaign or to certain contents).
Develop and improve services 84 partners can use this purpose
Information about your activity on this service, such as your interaction with ads or content, can be very helpful to improve products and services and to build new products and services based on user interactions, the type of audience, etc. This specific purpose does not include the development or improvement of user profiles and identifiers.
Use limited data to select content 37 partners can use this purpose
Content presented to you on this service can be based on limited data, such as the website or app you are using, your non-precise location, your device type, or which content you are (or have been) interacting with (for example, to limit the number of times a video or an article is presented to you).
Use precise geolocation data 47 partners can use this special feature
With your acceptance, your precise location (within a radius of less than 500 metres) may be used in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Actively scan device characteristics for identification 27 partners can use this special feature
With your acceptance, certain characteristics specific to your device might be requested and used to distinguish it from other devices (such as the installed fonts or plugins, the resolution of your screen) in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Ensure security, prevent and detect fraud, and fix errors 93 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
Your data can be used to monitor for and prevent unusual and possibly fraudulent activity (for example, regarding advertising, ad clicks by bots), and ensure systems and processes work properly and securely. It can also be used to correct any problems you, the publisher or the advertiser may encounter in the delivery of content and ads and in your interaction with them.
Deliver and present advertising and content 100 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
Certain information (like an IP address or device capabilities) is used to ensure the technical compatibility of the content or advertising, and to facilitate the transmission of the content or ad to your device.
Match and combine data from other data sources 73 partners can use this feature
Always Active
Information about your activity on this service may be matched and combined with other information relating to you and originating from various sources (for instance your activity on a separate online service, your use of a loyalty card in-store, or your answers to a survey), in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Link different devices 55 partners can use this feature
Always Active
In support of the purposes explained in this notice, your device might be considered as likely linked to other devices that belong to you or your household (for instance because you are logged in to the same service on both your phone and your computer, or because you may use the same Internet connection on both devices).
Identify devices based on information transmitted automatically 91 partners can use this feature
Always Active
Your device might be distinguished from other devices based on information it automatically sends when accessing the Internet (for instance, the IP address of your Internet connection or the type of browser you are using) in support of the purposes exposed in this notice.
Save and communicate privacy choices 69 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
The choices you make regarding the purposes and entities listed in this notice are saved and made available to those entities in the form of digital signals (such as a string of characters). This is necessary in order to enable both this service and those entities to respect such choices.
Its an absolute joke whats happening in gaza all the major political figures around the world who are doing noting in there power to help them would want to hang there heads in shame .
@Harvey pity he didn’t put his head above the parpart in relation Syria as well, then we could take him seriously!
Syria is different !
Great man Gordon. I for one am boycotting products.
When’s the march on I am going to bring up some carrots from Kinvarra – had some on Sunday – they were beautiful and sweet …They might look good on a plate in The Exchequer !
I shall donate them freely if they want them !
When are you and the other Israel apologists going to start supporting Assad ? Isn’t he just defending himself as well? Just like poor old Israel , or is it just IDF murders you support?
Is that to me ? Gav.?
That argument could be used for anyone speaking out against something. The fact is he’s here now and he’s speaking out on this issue. fair play to him!
Its a joke that The Journal never ran with the story of Hamas being caught on tape, firing rockets off right beside a hotel full of journalists. Caught rotten, haha: http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/ndtv-exclusive-how-hamas-assembles-and-fires-rockets-571033?pfrom=home-lateststories
^ Explain that one lads. #hypocrites Never gave a sh*t about Syria or Sudan.
A point regarding Syria that I feel must be made is this – we saw refugee camps in Lebanon I think it was and we can donate money or even the clothes of our backs to the child victims of the Syrian conflict – it’s not good enough I agree, but at least we can show our support for human life – with GAZA they have to sit and wait for attacks from the air and from soldiers while hemmed in by a fence on land and a blockade by sea …. there are no refugee camps for Gaza .
.the I.D.F. are beginning to remind me of Ralph Fiennes in Schindler’s List when he took out the rifle and the bottle of whiskey !
No , it was the other comment Dermot, I am sick of hearing the what about Syria line while at the same time they never ask why the only country to still receive massive aid and diplomatic cover while carrying out these vicious attacks is Israel, at least Assad is threatened with sanctions and military attacks , plus military aid to his enemies.
Great news this evening that SuperValu/ Centra have withdrawn All Israeli Products in joining the Boycott.
Congratulations – I will continue to be a Customer of your great shops !
Fantastic news in the past hour…the BDS campaign is getting bigger and bigger…Super Valu have just anmounced that their 232 stores are currently having ALL israeli goods removed from their shelves! Take a bow Super Valu…the first of many hopefully
@ Taxi, how do you know that D’Arcy has not previously spoken out against the situation in Syria or elsewhere.
Secondly, the argument that those people who have not, apparently, spoke out against other atrocities have no right to condemn Israels act of genocide is fallacious. The logic of this argument is that because other nations have committed atrocities Israel should be permitted to commit atrocities and those who object are racially motivated.
Thirdly, Israel is exceptional, in so far, as it holds an unassailable record for consistent violations of UN resolutions and human rights violations. Syria and Sudan aren’t in Israels league in this respect.
If everybody had your attitude taxi israel would have an easier run at their ethnic cleansing
@Jonny ..one to cure your obsession about Hamas – israeli authorities using Mossad created Hamas to turn the Palestinians against Fatah/PLO!!! :
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ZER403A.html
Johnny we really just protest to p!$$ you off you dumb cu@t
@taxi bill,…….. Aha another case of inattentional-blindness I see, seems very prevalent in the pro (killing) mob.
@dermot Ryan, good man Dermot, i’ll look forward to some of those sweet carrots from Kinvara ,
I can see it now, Charlie Flanagan on the loud-haler , the riot squad, (shatter in his ear), as he shouts ‘ ‘Put down the carrots slooowly, and put your hands in the air’……..
Cool Gavan …It seems the elected International Community has a very selective conscience !
Ha ha jimmy – would that be before Charlie tweets the benefits of lugging a bottle of wine a day or after ? …what a Plonk-er !
That’s the equivalent of a woman slapping a rapist in retaliation.
IF SHE SLAPS HIM THE RIGHT PLACE THEN ………
Sean you were doing ok until you said Israel is not in the same league as Syria or Sudan, have you any concept of what’s happening in these countries?
Bill, nobody takes you seriously!
Gordon is just another clown who has jumped on the Gaza bandwagon, when he makes a statement condemning the murdering Islamists of ISIS I might have a bit of respect for him, I won’t be holding my breath
Jopmarsy, Isis is what happens when America and Europe replaces the existing ruling structure with D’mawcrissy in nations that have never understood the concept.
Great article by Donal Og Cusack in the examiner last week about why sports and politics should mix when needed.
Arab English cricket players are banned from wearing anything in support of their fellow Arabs in Palestine because its “political”, but are then forced to wear emblems celebrating British war dead. The hypocrisy is unreal.
Debatable this one in fact the England and Wales cricket board allowed it, it’s the international cricket body that are investigating it and haven’t delivered a mandate just yet
If they are indeed English they should support their home country and nothing more.
I agree, they should be required to take off those disgusting Vodafone emblems.
In the west our accent sometimes makes it Voodoo-phone !
Maith thú, Gordo!!!!
We rare em well, down Wexford way.
Good man Gordon and your mighty, mighty beard!
Jayzes Darcy…. looks like a pro-hamas beard…. I’ll be keepng a close eye on you bucko!……
Jimmy – I’m growing a similar one – I call it the World Peace Beard !
Syria is not a one sided war – people are not in a prison camp with no escape, blockaded on all sides. Get real folks. This is a supposed civilised nation bombarding a small state into the dark ages.
I don’t agree with what’s happening either. I’m with you Gordon and, I suspect, the vast majority of Irish people. And before some numbskull says it, to be anti Israeli is not to be anti Jewish or pro Hamas.
Well done Gordon, many of us could do with growing a pair (figuratively).
“Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.”
Martin Luther King, Jr
I agree with Gordoff Darcy
If Gaza stops sending missiles into Israel, then Israel will stop sending missiles into Gaza. Hamas is sacrificing its own people in a battle to win support for its cause! Quite a number of Arab States do not support Hamas. Consider what response you would want from the Irish Army if missiles being directed at Dublin, Galway or Limerick?
Israel was occupying, blockading and oppressing long before Hamas came onto the scene
The D4s wouldn’t be seen for dust for a domestic issue..
Now don’t be making out the Palestinians to be saints. Before Hamas they did a lot of things to protect soldiers and civilians at checkpoints and within Israel from being killed by suicide bombers in the form of Fatah.
The first suicide attack in Palestine/Israel didn’t occur until 1989, two years after Hamas was founded. The first, and one of very few, suicide attack that possibly involved Fatah (they actually condemned this attack) was in 2002. What were you saying about suicide attacks “before” Hamas?
@Danny
I am referring to the current conflict. Hamas has the power to end this conflict, stop bombing Israel.
It is the same conflict, it is ignorant and naive to deny that
You are missing the point Danny. If Hamas wanted to stop THIS conflict, they would stop sending missiles, which are being rendered useless by the Israelis! There is some ignorance out there on this issue and Hamas are capitalising on it at the expense of its own people. Seriously, how would you expect Israel to respond?
Are you suggesting that if Hamas had stopped firing rockets that Israel would have discontinued it’s offensive, when it’s stated objectives were to get rid of the tunnels and demilitarize Gaza.
Seriously, how would you expect people to respond to decades of oppression, occupation and blockades? If you hadn’t noticed Hamas has released requirements for them to stop firing rockets several times and every time it’s been ignored by the mainstream media and Israel. The Palestinians have sent a delegation to Egypt to negotiate a ceasefire, but Israel only seems interested in proposing ceasefires when it doesn’t involve negotiating with the Palestinians. This outbreak started when Netanyahu accused Hamas of kidnapping three boys without any evidence and even now when it’s become clear that it was almost certainly a splinter group, an unaffiliated group or a rogue group acting without orders from Hamas leadership, they still falsely accuse Hamas of doing so. Israel, like Hamas (expect for Hamas there are ceasefires arranged without consulting them), has proven unable to stick to ceasefires, even their own. Israel broke its last ceasefire within 6 minutes. If Israel wanted to stop this outbreak they would have engaged in negotiations instead of spreading lies and exaggerations. This outbreak won’t stop with Hamas simply giving up their resistance. Maybe you haven’t been paying attention, but Netanyahu made it pretty clear that Israel has other goals.
I’d also like to point out that there’s no evidence of those tunnels being used for cross border attacks until the last 2 weeks and it’s well known that their primary use is the transport of supplies which can’t be transported into Gaza any other way due to the Israeli blockade.
Come off it Danny. Hamas have been using these tunnels for years and building new ones to bring in weapons and illegal goods. People aren’t entirely ignorant in this country and we can all see the product of this when hundreds of rockets get fired into Israel on a daily basis. To say otherwise is disingenuous. Danny what are the goals of Hamas? And when they achieve these goals what will be the goal of Hamas in the surrounding nations?
From Noam Chomsky:
“Though Israel maintained its siege, Hamas observed the cease-fire, as Israel concedes. Matters changed in April of this year when Fatah and Hamas forged a unity agreement that established a new government of technocrats unaffiliated with either party.
Israel was naturally furious, all the more so when even the Obama administration joined the West in signaling approval. The unity agreement not only undercuts Israel’s claim that it cannot negotiate with a divided Palestine but also threatens the long-term goal of dividing Gaza from the West Bank and pursuing its destructive policies in both regions.
Something had to be done, and an occasion arose on June 12, when the three Israeli boys were murdered in the West Bank. Early on, the Netanyahu government knew that they were dead, but pretended otherwise, which provided the opportunity to launch a rampage in the West Bank, targeting Hamas.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu claimed to have certain knowledge that Hamas was responsible. That too was a lie.
One of Israel’s leading authorities on Hamas, Shlomi Eldar, reported almost at once that the killers very likely came from a dissident clan in Hebron that has long been a thorn in the side of Hamas. Eldar added that “I’m sure they didn’t get any green light from the leadership of Hamas, they just thought it was the right time to act.”
The 18-day rampage after the kidnapping, however, succeeded in undermining the feared unity government, and sharply increasing Israeli repression. Israel also conducted dozens of attacks in Gaza, killing five Hamas members on July 7.
Hamas finally reacted with its first rockets in 19 months, providing Israel with the pretext for Operation Protective Edge on July 8.
By July 31, around 1,400 Palestinians had been killed, mostly civilians, including hundreds of women and children. And three Israeli civilians. Large areas of Gaza had been turned into rubble. Four hospitals had been attacked, each another war crime.”
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/25343-noam-chomsky-%7C-nightmare-in-gaza
If you believe that this is because of Hamas rockets you know little of the recent history of this region.
From Moshe Feiglin’s Facebook page, deputy speaker of the Knesset
:
“As opposed to ‘Exodus’ in the forties, the coming decade’s Exodus will meet a strong Jewish State of Israel; an Israel that opens its gates to the new immigrants and protects them – if it will only realize who it is and who are its enemies…
I repeat once again: 1.5 million Jews will be immigrating to Israel in the coming decade. They will change our entire geo-political perspective from its very foundation.
For every miserable family in Gaza, there is a Jewish home being vacated in Paris and Belgium.
The Land of our Forefathers is waiting with open arms for every Jew in Paris and Belgium – and the rest of the world.”
https://www.facebook.com/JewishLeadership
He wrote this, he feels the need to take the homes of “every miserable family in Gaza” to house 1.5 million emmigrants. A truly nasty man with warped ideals.
From the State of Israel Ministry of Defense, Food Consumption in the Gaza Strip –
Red Lines:
“As part of the policy formulated by the Security Cabinet on September 19, 2007, Israel will limit the entry of goods into the Gaza Strip.
In order to allow for a basic fabric of life in the Gaza Strip, the deputy defense minister approved allowing 106 trucks carrying basic humanitarian products into the Gaza
Strip, mostly food (all products are specified in the appendices). In addition, food in seed form was approved for entry via the aggregate conveyor belt located near the
Karni crossing.
This research examines the main food component.
The basis for the analysis is a model formulated by the Ministry of Health (at this point, according to average Israeli consumption) and a model formulated by the
Palestinian Ministry of Economy.
The Ministry of Health is conducting work for calculating the minimal subsistence basket based on the Arab sector in Israel. The “minimum basket” allows nutrition that is
sufficient for subsistence without the development of malnutrition”
Basically designed to keep Gaza barely surviving.
Everything is illegal goods there when it isn’t handled by Israel. Yes they’ve been using them for years, yes they’ve used them to bring in weapons, but they’re mostly used to bring in regular supplies that they can’t bring in because of the Israeli led blockade. Israel is now portraying them as “terror tunnels” used to carry out cross border raids. Hamas has various goals, but I’m assuming you’re talking about the goals in relation to the implementation of their form of Sharia Law and also the destruction of Israel and murder of Jews as it says in their charter even though their leaders have since come out saying otherwise (this is in reliant to the killing of Jews thing), but we don’t hear about that because it doesn’t fit our image of Hamas. I don’t like Hamas and I don’t like their ideology, but I prefer dealing with facts and evidence on all sides of the debate
And just to be clear, like them or not, Hamas were democratically elected in 2006 in a fair and open election. They were not the party Israel or the US wanted, thus we see how far the situation has come in the desire to destroy Hamas. The only way to remove Hamas should be through free and fair elections. If Gaza was able to function as a normal country then the people of Gaza could choose new leadership when they decide Hamas are not up to the job.
http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/ndtv-exclusive-how-hamas-assembles-and-fires-rockets-571033?pfrom=home-lateststories
Justify this Danny.
Apart from reading my previous comments Pol Mag, perhaps this goes some way towards justifying it. Be warned, it is horrific, if you don’t like the sight of dead Palestinian children with half their head missing I suggest you don’t look at it. It is horrific, but it is what is happening:
http://imgur.com/a/gtc9T
Danny that’s deadly…point proven in few short sentences.
Pól, I don’t condone firing rockets from densely populated civilian areas, even though that’s what most of Gaza is. However, what you showed us is a 4:22 long video of a man making speculations with no evidence and then showing a cloud of smoke that could be a Hamas rocket, an Israeli missile or an unrelated incident. There was no hard evidence in that video and it doesn’t definitively prove anything. Speculation is all it is.
I’m not sure what you mean, Joan
Who’s a D4?
Big difference between rockets and missiles! Pistol versus tank
Pól Mag Shamhrain
This has bothered me for some time now, could you explain how Hamas are able to get those rockets into Gaza it being surrounded by israel and egypt, borders are closed btw.
Because the way i see it is that israel (mosad) must be either shit at their jobs or they let it happen to prolong the war.
Think about it how else would hamas be able to bring these 4-5 ft rockets, remember thats FEET not inches, into gaza.
Are they standing outside these tunnels waiting for a shipment, then throw one over the shoulder and off down the tunnel they go.
Every one here supporting israel say that iran are supplying them with these rockets, how.
Have hamas built one of the modern marvels of construction by creating tunnels that go all the way to iran some 1000 km (maybe more) border to border.
Just curious
Timothy O’Shea (your very formal) lol.
Looked around the internet because I wasn’t actually sure. My own guess was through tunnels between Gaza and Egypt. But when I looked around and apparently they bring these rockets into Israel via old Lebanese tunnels used by militants during previous wars. And they also look pretty big to me. They also showed one of the tunnels between Gaza and the West Bank on CNN the other night and that also looked big to me. Check it out and look at other sources but the rockets have to come from somewhere all several thousand of them.
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/business/2014/08/israel-tunnels-hamas-hezbollah-digging-technology.html#
That still fails to explain how they get them through Egypt and Israel in the first place and how they’re getting them all the way from Iran apparently without protection
Not protection, detection
Well Danny whatever way they get the weapons in are you denying that they have launched thousands of missiles into Israel? Do you believe this is acceptable behaviour?
POL – SHNAKE !
Pól Mag Shamhrain.
Egypt have closed all borders with Gaza, israel have a blockade in place and monitor everything that goes into gaza.
(they bring these rockets into Israel via old Lebanese tunnels) thats one of my points here Pol how are they able to bring these rockets through israel without they knowing. Just doesn’t make sence.
Now i hope you also know that to build tunnels from Lebanon to gaza would still be a feat that many modern countries would not nor could afford to do 190km, thats approx 160 km longer than the longest tunnels in the world to date, the swiss are building a train tunnel thats 34 kms and its going to cost over 34 billion thats right BILLION.
The west bank is approx 64ml from gaza which would still be twice the lengh of the swiss tunnel and plus those tunnels would also have to be dug right under the noses of the israeli army. ???
So I have come to the conclusion that the israelis were aware of these tunnels all along.
Think about it both sides are fighting or at least trying to fight a war.
That means both sides need weapons, you can’t fight a war when only one side has weapons, makes sense because if say israel started bombing gaza and hamas had no weapons to fight back with it would be concidered genocide and no modern country would want that to harm their international standings and business relations.
But hey thats just what i think.
(your very formal) ya must change that on the facebook thing.
I am just stating you were very formal in your reply. You usually don’t see formal writing on the comments section. Relax. Lol.
I see your point Timothy. It does make sense. I would like to know how Gazans have access to such weapons and where they are getting them from. On sky news the other day a reporter passed through the border between Gaza and Israel and it took him a hour and half to get through what looked like very tight security. So I wonder about how and why the Israelis would allow arms through their borders. I recently read a book on the Berlin wall and in it the author describes the efforts of people in East Berlin to escape. They dug tunnels under the wall and out into basements on the other side. I know we are talking about miles in this case but it has to be possible in some way. If there is a will there is a way. The tunnels have been shown on television in the news and reporters have treked though them. Either way your point doesn’t deter from the fact that thousands of missiles have been fired across the border into Israel. They had to have come from somewhere through some supply line.
Danny there’s no need to play stupid regards the tunnels, they are and always have been for military use.
It gives pro Israel something to justify
Proportionally
@ Pol, I would normally I would not be so flippant but since some people are being here, I might as well join in! If I was being targeted, kept in an open air prison, controlled, my family and community being killed and kidnapped. I can safely tell you I would be finding the nearest supply of rockets and launching them ten a penny. So do I believe it is acceptable behavior? All day every day and I hope they burn in hell! Now that I have gotten and over exaggerated point off my chest! Please see the below link and excellent article who will give you all the truths you need. I hope
Fog ****** lunatic and Johnnyfive are reading this, I’m really looking forward to their insights to anti-smite arguments!!!! (note for anyone that did not know taht Noam is the “father of modern linguistics” and is Jewish!)
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/25343-noam-chomsky-|-nightmare-in-gaza
Hey Pol iam relaxed, cheers
Im not trying to say their not firing those rockets, the point im trying to make is HOW they’re getting them.
You said that you watched a sky news report on the security at the border I watched the same report which is why I started wondering about it in the first place, an hour and a half with a caged tunnel of 700m to walk through.
Now we both know that Israel controls every inch of that border you saw that yourself so they must know when and where these rockets are being carried into the gaza strip.
So here again i will try to make my point. Israel needs hamas to have weapons they can’t bomb a defenceless people it’s genocide.
So what do they do about that little problem, simple they leave a certain amount of them through. When hamas have enough to couse a certain amount of damage without being a direct risk to the israeli people (because of iron dome) then they stop it.
Anything hamas try to bring in after that would be concidered fare game for the israeli army, hence the Cycle Of Violence begins again.
Ther will never be peace in Israel/Palistine. Theres simply too much at stake for both sides to lose.
Pól I am in no way denying that Hamas and Islamic Jihad are firing rockets from civilians areas into civilian areas, that they are using tunnels to enter Israel or that they use tunnels to transport goods including weapons. However, there are two things that we know. Firstly, there is no evidence available to us that these tunnels were used to carry out assaults until two weeks ago. And secondly, these tunnels that are used to transport weapons are predominantly used to transport goods and supplies as they have done for many years. I have already said that I don’t condone the firing of rockets from and into civilian areas, whether it is Hamas or Israel. It is a violation of international law. However, I fully support resistance to oppression and I can do that while criticising various actions, groups and ideologies involved in that resistance. Is that clear enough?
Now, in regards to the possibility of tunnels going across Israel to places like Lebanon. I don’t see it as likely. Just to construct something that long would require a constant supply of oxygen, as we saw with the construction of the Channel Tunnel, and then to operate it they would also need oxygen as well as electricity etc and it simply doesn’t seem likely that Hamas or another similar group would have the equipment or expertise to carry out such a project.
Irish protestors, especially those on the radical left, always come out and say “We are not anti-Jewish, we are anti-Israeli.” This is Byzantine logic. The truth is that were Israel a Muslim state and not a Jewish one, there would be no protests in Ireland, no calls for a boycott, no attacking of places of worship (Belfast synagogue anyone?), no attacking Muslim passers by (as happened to French Jews in Paris) or chanting “Gas the Arabs” (as happened in Berlin). How do I know this?
Because there were no such street protests in Dublin when Radical Islam was kidnapping Nigerian schoolgirls (Boko Haram), or beheading Iraqi Shi’ite boys in their hundreds (ISIS), or gassing Sunni civilians (incl. Palestinians in Syria (Asad) or burning Christians out of their homes (ISIS). Because if the killers are Muslim or Arab we don’t give a shit and nor do our media. But when the killers are Jewish, then it’s “hey, let’s turn the clock back to 1938, and boycott Israel”.
I do not hear anyone here criticising Egypt for blocking their side of the Gaza border and unlike the Israelis, allowing no medical aid into the Strip.
Our fear of Radical Islam is pathetic. But Israel is surrounded by enemies who want to wipe them off the face of the earth (Syria, Qatar, Iran, Saudi Arabia etc.) so they often shoot first and ask questions later.
That said, good luck being a democrat, a socialist, a liberal, a woman, gay, or a religious minority in the Arab world. But hey, feel free to back the jihad.
good luck having a childhood in Gaza !
Pol Mag Are you really comparing what is happening in Gaza to to the banking crisis here. Get a grip man children are been murdered.
Where’s Foggy, Charles , Jop and jenni now – afraid of real homegrown Irish heroes …afraid to display their arguments in front of Mna na hEireann who will be tuning into one of our greatest rugby heroes !
There over on the independent with Cynical getting annihilated by Jetstream
Ah yes !… the fair wind that keeps our country green and peaceful – Bernardo !
If we all undressed and went camel racing in Saudi Arabia, do you think it would solve it ?
Working honey
well get off the internet then Jenni –l.o.l. —
I hope it’s sweet Jenni – the honey that is !
If I was wrong today then – apologies Jenni …
Mar di gras!
Tweet | Share | Report this comment
Jenni said this earlier I ma afraid for her soul ! ………
Jenni Harrison
7 hours ago #
2 1
I couldn’t give a flying f what the bible says honey
Reply
Check out these disgusting tweets from teenage Israelis. You can click the links and copy/paste each one into Google Translate (or just take the authors word for it as he has translated them all).
https://storify.com/davidsheen/israeli-army-the-next-generation
Now something’s wrong with the world when teenagers are talking like this when their neighbours are being slaughtered by their military.
Wouldn’t it be great to see Gordon D’Arcy standing in the local by- election in Dublin ..on a “Thou shalt not kill ” platform …
It is one way of delivering a message to Government – and they would listen !
They might stop throwing another DArcy in jail then as well – ‘cos even Gordon Darcy knows that Ireland is Neutral..
Well done Gordon, a man of principle with the ba**s to stand up for the defenceless. Unlike the rest of the D4 brigade, hiding in their bunkers in case they’d get hit in the pocket. Where is the great BOD now when it really matters.
Murray why publish this on the sports pages? That’s D’arcy’s opinion and he’s entitled to say what he likes and march with whomever he wants. He is a current Irish rugby international and should have retired if he wanted to be an activist. Bringing politics onto the rugby pages where people go for a diversion from the seriousness of everyday life is not on…we get Gaza on the news continuously and can form our own opinions.
Nobody agrees with the slaughter of people but that is the overriding consequence of war and civilian casualties are normally higher than military. Would Gordan D’arcy advocate not defending Dublin if it were being shelled from a schoolyard or church somewhere nearby in Dun Laoighaire?
Where did you form your ‘opinion’ about missiles from schools etc. And how does that relate to Gaza?
What Israel has claimed is that missiles are fired from ‘in the vicinity of ‘ schools etc. Not the same thing.
I’m sure Gordon D’Arcy doesn’t mind his profession profile getting this story noticed so I don’t agree that you say it doesn’t belong on the sports pages if a actor actress does the same it would be on show business pages
If he was just normal Joe this article wouldn’t be written at all
He using his profile to push the agenda and fair play for that
If ya don’t what to read gaza all the time avoid the article be it in sport or what ever pages.
Carry-on about not politicising theScore pages and then 3 paragraphs of exactly that.
Do as I say…? Or poor impulse control?
Thousands of people being murder in gaza and your grip is it appears on the wrong page. My heart bleeds for you. Not.
Des do you have issue with celebs like Joan Rivers backing Israel publicly and using their profile to bolster support for the IDF?
I’m not sure what Darcy’s reaction would be, but I’m fairly certain his response wouldn’t be to raze Dun Laoighaire to the ground, bulldoze the rubble and survivors into the sea and build a settlement there.
So public figures should not use their status to be political?!?? What a crock! If we left public faces out if it you would have us real people trying to be heard and a bunch of irresponsible politicians and spineless corporate yes-men unwilling and unable to take action! Good on him I say!
Well I suppose as long as it was an illegal Jewish settle my that would be OK.
Have a read of SImon Cowell for Prime Minister. It’s a study which looks at how people who are in the public eye become political and the effect they can have on public perceptions. Everything is political Des, even sports!
Sports and politics goes hand in hand. The first arena ever built was constructed as a tool to control the masses. Well done D’Arcy.
*the Colosseum.
I didn’t see Gordon D’Arcy getting out on the street for the banking crisis for people in his own country. But I suppose you can always put up a banner in the window “No Israeli goods sold here” in the window and it will raise the brand. You can’t do that with domestic issues…
I didn’t see most people going out to show their outrage, there were people protesting etc, but most people just sat at home moaning and then chose not to vote in elections
But yet everyone publicly gets in a twist over something that is happening hundreds of miles away. Our opinions don’t matter in this conflict. If we were to do something people like Gerry Adams and Ian Paisley once sworn enemies would be talking to both sides to end this. Our celebrity egos and protests will achieve nothing. Red thumb all you want but the fact is we had a chance to show the world we were not to messed with and we blew it. Why should they listen now?
Oh my god! He can’t have an opinion on something unless he has an opinion on EVERYTHING! It’s hypocrisy otherwise!!!11!1!one!
Ireland still has to potential to influence the situation. We need to pressure our own government into taking action first, pressure them into breaking the status quo in Europe
Pol Mag Are you really comparing what is happening in Gaza to to the banking crisis here. Get a grip man children are been murdered.
How many people were killed by missiles during the banking crisis?
We don’t know because they don’t give background financial information when suicides are reported Gav. ..but we know of at least one person who lost hope from the whole Priory Hall episode …My guess is that there are hundreds !
there are over 150,000 Irish-born economic refugees in Canada Australia and loads of Irish women goen to London as fully qualified nurses after the exchequer has spent c. 90,000 of taxpayers money training them …these “victims” are hard to count …I do know that some of the bankers who were found guilty in a Criminal Court are doing 240 hours of community service !
How many people have committed suicide due to the banking crisis? Not just here in Ireland, but throughout the world?
Fair point – they were jumping out of buildings in Spain…and do you remember the report of the Sherriff in Dublin when he went to evict a lady by pre-arrangement and found her dead in the apartment – what a waste of life !
James unfortunately kids are dying. I am not a monster despite what you might think. But we have a lot of issues in our own country. A lot of people have died in this country because of the banking crisis we don’t hear about it because our domestic news spends most of it’s time monitoring global issues. My point is we seem to stand up for everyone bar ourselves and if we have such great activists in this country why do we have so many social problems and such ear deafening silence on them?
Graham what makes your opinion any better than anybody elses?
You’re a bit of a monster Pol. You seem upset that people care about children being killed by a nation that is aligned to the West and is funded by the West. Perhaps Irish people care more about death than money? Your point is in fact simple support of the current Israeli regieme, judging by your previous comments. You’re just trying to change tack here.
Sorry Dog Standard but I didn’t upload pictures of dead people via an account that does not show my name or face. You clearly have a point I have mine. Just because I don’t share your views does not make me a monster.
Pol ahs appoint …Pol if I may – the Irish have never marched because of poverty – they fight because of poverty – The news today that water charges are going to be double for farmers is probably going to bring the GOVERNMENT DOWN !
Farmers are seething and they will only let it go so far !
It’s effectively another gas or electrical bill. Didn’t know that about the farmers. I hope so to be honest.
@ Pol Ma. I never said that you are a monster. You are comparing the banking crises to a war where Isreal is purposely targeting the children of Gaza and killing them. This is Genocide just because the west dose not recognize it as such dose not change the fact that it is. Yes the banking crises has caused many to die by suicide and stress related illnesses as a result of it. AS a person who has lost a lot of friends to suicide over my life time I do emphasis and I have the greatest sympathy for the families and friends who have lost loved ones. However it is unreasonable to suggest that it was the deliberate intention of those who caused the banking crises for people to die as a result of what they were doing. You can not compare the two of them as similar. In fact it is down right insulting to the hundreds of children murder Gaza over the last few weeks to suggest that they are similar.
I agree that we have a lot of problems here in our own country and that they don’t get the attention that they deserve in the media. And we in this country don’t stand up for ourselves when it comes to highlighting these issues. But this is a complete diffrent problem to the slaughter of the innocent children of Gaza.This is hardly the place to highlight our own problems here In Ireland. Gordon D’Arcy has a right to use his celebrity states to speech out against this Genocide. In fact I believe we all have a moral duty to do so.
James I know you didn’t the other person called me that. I copied a link clearly on another post below showing one instance of Hamas militants in a densely built up area preparing rockets and firing into Israel. The journalist filmed the footage from a balcony to show the other side to the conflict. You should have a look.
POL WHY WOULD YOU HOPE THAT FARMERS ARE CHARGED DOUBLE ?
I hoped that the the farmers would be out in force Dermot. I didn’t make it clear and you misunderstood. My bad.
my equal bad -
Who rebuilds Gaza after all this is over, not Israel, not the USA if history repeats itself it will be the EU. Yes! Your taxes will rebuild Gaza while Israel laughs all the way to the bank to spend it on weapons. Thanks Israel for screwing the Irish taxpayer, as if things were not hard enough.
Rugby teams are great for going on buses and travelling all over the country … I wonder if some of them will do the same for the weekend – Tralee rugby club for example showed great compassion young Donal Walsh …
Fair amount of advertising in that. Should have had a sponsored by.
I didn’t see him at a bailout march…curious that…
Pol I get your point but here is no social welfare in Gaza – there are bullets without eyes and bombs without conscience as a daily diet there and no escape !
Pathetic. The pair of you’s.
Pathetic is this country that fights for human rights all over the world but when it comes to Irish people living in poverty and eating out of soup kitchens daily there is no comment. Get off your high horse Doctor.
Dermot I get your point. But again whether people in Gaza, China or Brazil get social welfare or not is not our issues. My point throughout this whole conflict has been to look at both sides and form an opinion. The only difference between Israel and the Palestinians is the Israelis have better weapons. Their bullets and rockets are fired without conscience too. They just ain’t as sophisicated.
Pol it seems though that the kidnapping of the 3 Israeli teenagers was a”false flag” ,,,I could be wrong ..but if I amn’t then it looks like a proxy war …check out Miko Peled ..an Israeli Jew and one of the finest men I have ever seen on any media !
I’ll give him a look when I get a minute.
Well, I’m boycotting The Exchequer so !!! Not that this will make any difference either.
Let the Islamist Jihadists eat there – shut hasn’t Gordon grown the Islamist beard already anyway. #BoycottTheExchequer
Well done Gordon. I too support telling the Truth. The world can see the hypocrisy of Israeli lies at defence. Its not about defence. Its about genocide.
Is he banning American supplies from his restaurant too..soft drinks etc etc..because it is American who is training and supplying the Israeli forces..I’d think not…just another self proclaimed celeb jumping on the band wagon…