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Football players say depression a problem – survey

In addition, half of the respondents said that professional players used recreational drugs

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OVER THREE-QUARTERS of professional footballers in England and Scotland believe depression is a problem in the sport, according to a survey published in British magazine FourFourTwo on Wednesday.

The survey of 100 players, undertaken just over a year after the apparent suicide of Wales manager Gary Speed, who suffered from depression, suggested the illness is more widespread in professional football than previously thought.

An unnamed League One (third-tier) player told the magazine: “It can affect a lot of players. I know because I have been there.

“The easy route was to give up the game completely — I was in a dark place.”

The chief executive of the Professional Footballers’ Association (PFA), Gordon Taylor, said his organisation was putting systems in place to tackle depression.

“It is an issue we have been dealing with now for some time and we are looking to ensure that people are aware of what support systems there are,” he told Britain’s Press Association.

“We have a network of advisers and our own counselling service at the PFA as well.”

The survey also revealed that 26 percent of those questioned had witnessed racism in the game, while 14 percent said they thought match-fixing took place, without specifying at which level.

Of those questioned, 43 percent said there were too many foreign players in English football and 62 percent said an openly gay player would not be forced out of the game.

Half of the respondents said that professional players used recreational drugs, but only 13 percent thought performance-enhancing drugs were taken.

- © AFP, 2012

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Comments (50 Comments)

  • I suffered badly with depression recently and reading some of these comments I can point out exactly those who have experience of it and those who haven’t a clue. Let me tell you this, no amount of money, cars or extra people in my life could have lifted that crippling pain off my chest or helped with the battle to get out of bed in the morning. I had the same attitude until it struck me down. If you don’t have stable mental health nothing else matters. I’m only 28 and I know this. Please don’t be so quick to pass comment

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  • The more famous people that discuss their fight with depression will save lives.
    Physical illness is never an issue but society needs to treat mental illness as a common ailment that takes many forms.
    Don’t hide it. There is help.
    Don’t be alone. Talk and good people will always listen.
    Beat it together.

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  • Dar Ryl 03/01/13 #

    Hard to believe depression is still misunderstood the world over! Everyone would agree that most footballers have the financial means to get help with depression but if they don’t understand what it is, then how can they get help?
    It’s the single biggest threat today. About 4 times as many people committing suicide today in Ireland than are being killed on the roads, yet more cameras on d way is the governments answer! Divert that money towards mental health care for the general public would have far greater benefits to us all.

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  • I wonder would people be as blasé about this if they had seen first-hand the devastation a mental illness can cause. The sport needs more people like Stan Collymore to stand up and be an advocate for those who suffer in silence. Gary Speed and Robert Enke are just two incidents of footballers, husbands, fathers and examples that never should have been made, and more will follow unless something is done.

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  • Money doesn’t bring happiness!

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  • Robert Enke’s biography (A Life Too Short) offers a great insight into this subject. Tragic story but well worth a read.

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  • I think this article is focusing on depression they suffer whilst in their playing careers not after.
    Pressure to perform, abuse from media and fans, short contracts.

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  • Some people have a very simple view if the world. Firstly, it is only a small percentage of footballers that earn ridiculous wages, players in League 1 or 2 would be comfortable while playing but also have a very short career and certainly can’t just retire at 35 and put their feet up until the reaper comes knocking.

    In the case of Robert Enke, he played with a fear of failure that he couldn’t overcome all throughout his career, he led a nomadic lifestyle which he found difficult and the loss of his daughter and the stress he felt about potentially not being able to adopt because of his mental health issues. Money was not a big factor in his life, he played football and got paid, but his life was far too complicated to be reduced to pointing at his paycheck and telling him to get over himself.

    Mental health issues can’t be solved by applying the same reasoning to everyone, you have to treat people as individuals with individual problems and issues and fund the best solution for them.

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  • All the people saying how could they be depressed read some of the articals of the secret footballer on the guardian website I think. Will change your whoke view of pro footballers..

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  • These lads play at the highest level, they run out in front of crowds of 40,50 or 60 thousand every saturday.. they play well, play in good teams, enjoy the craic with the lads etc.. when thats all gone one day, sometimes abruptly as in a bad injury, these lads can find themselves lost.. i don’t think the money is that big a factor, its more a loss of purpose?

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  • So many people are focusing on the argument of it must be so hard to earn and spend their wages. Clearly you people think that every professional player is on a minimum of 50k a week. May I remind you that the majority of players don’t play in the premiership and therefore don’t earn stupid money. As you go down the divisions players aren’t earning anywhere near that, even in a year, though they are perhaps still better paid then they would be in whatever job they would have had in another life.

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  • Most of us can tell ourselves our best years are ahead of us but for athletes it’s a different story. They know in their mid thirties their best years are gone. Amazing there aren’t more suicides.

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  • Just because professional footballers get paid a lot of money doesn’t mean they are not human beings that are capable of being depressed. Some very stupid comments being made above

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  • I couldn’t begin to imagine the pressure a professional footballer might feel.

    As pointed out outside the premier league the stupid money stops, but a footballer my have upwards to 20,000 home fans watching his every move. One or two bad games and that 20,000 are hurling shocking abuse.

    Then there is the physical demands. Training several times a week. The pressure from coaches to be that bit faster etc. can’t be easy.

    Socially you have to be very aware of who you hang with. Footballers are more prone than most to kiss and tell prostitutes as well as hangers on.

    There is also still a massive drinking culture in football. From hitting the pub after an armature Sunday league team to the top of the premier league. Alcohol is a depressant and it can contribute to all too many of the lows a player feels.

    Good examples were made of Gary Speed but another example is Gazza. After years of pressure, hangers on robbing him and abuse of drink the man is absolutely psychiatric, a very sad shell of a man.

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  • You have to remember you’re not dealing with normally reared people here. They don’t have the centre of gravity that they rest of us develop as we get older. These are kids who were spotted at 14 or 15, were spoiled rotten, promised the world and given everything they wanted. Sounds great but they’re ill-equipped to deal with the bad times when they inevitably come. Now- I’d give the rest of my years for one year of their life, but you get my point.

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  • its not a problem in the sport its a problem in the individuals regardless of their profession

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  • Poverty doesn’t bring happiness either

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  • yes. wondering how to spend their ridiculous wages must be terrible

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    • I’d say dealing with the sudden stop at the end. No longer th 1st team player in front of the big crowds.

      That kind of stuff really kicks in, especially when you are in a b and q looking at lampshades with your missus.

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    • Come on don’t talk stupid.

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    • League one (third tier) yeah he’s on massive wages, the article is about depression not wages.

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    • I recommend reading the book ‘I am the secret footballer’, I just finished it, gives you a brilliant and frank view of a modern premier league player, who also happens to be medicated for depression.

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    • Ya see.. That is the problem right there @thomas Patrick – Your ill judgment! Money doesn’t guarantee happiness.

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    • Dmc 03/01/13 #

      They need to read a copy of The Secret. They need to have an attitute of gratitude. Only then shall they be happy

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    • james h 03/01/13 #

      Is that the same person who writes the column called “the player” in FourFourTwo?

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    • I’d agree. If they had to collect their dole money every week and carefully choose how to spend it, then they’d be depressed.

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    • Depression is an illness. It can strike whether you are on a top footballers wage or in the dole queue. They are people too, not just entertainers.

      Footballers live a strange existence. Yes they are well paid, but they end up isolated from the real world (reading the columns of The Secret Footballer highlights this). Often they grow up poor and are then lavished like kings. They don’t know who their real friends are and will have leeches trying to fleece them at every turn. They are abused more than any politician. The adrenaline from playing football for a career is like a drug and their career ends very early.

      People need to think of the man behind the jersey. Yes a lot are arseholes, but they are still just people.

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  • Which would you prefer?

    Skint, unemployed, arrears, cuts, price increases, home repossession, hunger, dole, emigration, depression?
    or
    Hundred grand a week, super car, mansion, with super model girlfriend depression?

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    • And there in a nutshell is why depression is still a taboo subject and suicide is a serious issue

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    • Depression is the same sickness no matter how wealthy you are

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    • Mags, the most (if not the only) sensible comment on the subject so far.

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    • The former, as there is some hope things can get better.

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    • Doesn’t your rationale explain it all perfectly? These players might be successful (whatever that is), have a big home, lots of money, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they’re happy! Happiness is a state of mind. I haven’t a pot to piss in most of the time, but I’m happy almost all of the time. I could always be worse off and I’m just happy I’m not :-)

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    • What percentage of league footballers in Britain earn 100k a week?

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    • I’m not trying to be disrespectful here,
      but there is a difference between the genuine life threatening situations that poor people experience,
      and the perceived life threatening situations that the wealthy experience,
      especially when the two situations are compared side by side.
      Personally I’m proud to say that I have experienced and survived both.

      I can assure you if you hear in the media about one high profile celebrity that commits suicide,
      you can be guaranteed that on the very same day,that there have been hundreds if not thousands of suicides throughout this world without even a mention in the very same media.

      The fact is that you will find more REAL LIFE hardship at the impoverished end of society.
      Just look at the abuse that our celebrity government dishes out on the poor and disadvantaged in our own country.
      (And not to deviate. But I just might add, our celebrity government (our “leaders”) are very aware, of the phycological torture that they are inflicting on these unfortunate, innocent people on a daily basis, this is plainly obvious by the country’s suicide/emigration..etc… figures).

      A quote that come to mind is.
      “I have been through some terrible things in my life, some of which actually happened.”
      Mark Twain

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    • Money cant buy you happiness

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    • Even if having money makes certain people happy?

      I know I feel happier when I have more money in my pocket.

      For example, I can eat better nutritious food when I have more money, and I can buy decent trainers for training.

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    • Off topic, but the notion that you need money to eat well annoys me. Fruit, veg and meat from a butchers are cheaper than convenience foods.

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    • Yes, having little money is definitely not an excuse to eat bad.
      But fresh meat is normally more expensive than (nutrient devoid) frozen meat.
      Fresh fish is normally more expensive than (nutrient devoid) frozen/canned/farmed fish.
      Organically grown, farm fresh/organic vegetables are normally more expensive than (nutrient devoid) vegetables in discount stores, imported for many days/weeks from the far corners of the planet.

      If you look at restaurants for example (that I rarely frequent) the cheaper ones sell the (nutrient devoid) low quality fast foods.

      Personally I know I prefer to have more money when I am shopping, particularly for food, as it gives me more options and excess to fresher/better quality foods that I may need to travel for (and these days travelling costs money in Ireland).

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    • sorry typo
      ……and access to better quality foods……

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    • Tinned mackerel is not “nutrient devoid”. Frozen vegetables are often better for you as well. There are many other flaws in your posts.

      There is no excuse for eating poorly. I have a very limited budget and no car yet I can manage it.

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  • Must be tough on them all the same.
    The babes, The cars, The houses, The fame, The gift they have oh yeah and the money.

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  • Poor wee Pets.

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  • Tell them not to watch MotD. Lineker, Hanson and ‘The Shirt’ Lawrenson would depress anyone!

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  • Tell the players to try being a supporter.. Especially when you lose to QPR.. :))

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