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El Clasico analysis: never bet against this Barca
In a game they simply had to win, Barca merely showed Real Madrid how much Jose Mourinho still has to do to catch up with them. Miguel Delaney analyses another masterclass from the Catalans… and another big-game disappointment from Ronaldo
TONIGHT BARCA PROVIDED the proof: never bet against this team. No matter the form, no matter the framework, never doubt their capacity to raise their game when it’s most required.
Underdogs? They dramatically overturned that tag.
Indeed, in a fair few ways, this was an even more impressive win than the fabled 5-0. Certainly in terms of character.
Because, make no mistake, Barca were under pressure. Not only did they have to win to pretty much keep the Spanish title race alive, they had to do so against a Real Madrid that have been in absolutely rampant form. Worse, they immediately went 1-0 down amid a performance that was atrociously error-strewn early on.
But they didn’t just overcome that start. They completely closed out the game in emphatic fashion. The manner in which Guardiola also reacted the game’s flow and made key alterations brought about an important tactical victory over Mourinho too.
Indeed, had Barca been more clinical, then the scoreline could have even been more embarrassing than the 5-0. In the last five minutes, they could have tacked on at least another four goals.
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And, as fortuitous as Xavi’s key second goal might have been, it shouldn’t be forgotten that the equaliser – after what was a very difficult opening 20 minutes for Barca – came out of sheer excellence.
Alexis still had a lot to do and two defenders to beat when he received the ball at the edge of the box. But he finished superbly by drilling the ball into the bottom corner. Top-class.
Of course, the supreme Leo Messi assist was a perfect illustration of one of the deepest differences between the sides.
Moments before it, Cristiano Ronaldo had the opportunity to make it 2-0 by squaring to Angel Di Maria. Instead, he selfishly shot. It undeniably became a key moment.
And, while the two situations were different, it did encapsulate the same old story.
Messi is a team player who seamlessly fits into an organic team, enhancing it and completing it. Ronaldo, by contrast, is a pure individualist who is merely an extension of a supremely organised Real Madrid team. In that sense, they are a broken team. And the potential folly of basing your attacking around one player – no matter how devastating – was shown here.
Ultimately, Ronaldo could have made 2-0 and 2-2 at different points of the game. He missed. And, within moments of both, it was 1-1 and 1-3 instead. Despite his undeniably qualities, it won’t do his reputation as a temperamentally suspect player in the biggest games much good.
His sheer selfishness can be a liability in the biggest games, as we saw tonight.
Barca, on the other hand, once again illustrated what a transcendent, sublime team they are. At times in the second half, they toyed with Real. And, as if to underline their dominance, the clincher was a classically un-Barca goal: a deep cross and a header.
And, clearly, Barca remain at least a head above Real in terms of quality.
For the moment, that’s not the case in the league table. But the more significant impact of this result will be in the long-term. At the very least, Barca remain masters of their own destiny. Had they even drawn at the Bernabeu then – in the context of this division – they would have to beat Real at home and hope for a favour elsewhere. Instead, the initiative swung back their way.
Moreover, it’s entirely possible that Mourinho and Real will start to develop a damaging complex about Barca. So far, when it’s come to the games that actually matter, the Catalans have won them all. No matter what Mourinho has tried – from aggressively shutting up shop to relentlessly pressing as much as possible – it has all only had one outcome: Barca eventually reasserting their superiority.
Certainly, that was exactly what happened at the Bernabeu.
I’ve been a barca fan for 18 years and its never easy to watch el classicos. In these games both teams are guilty of playacting and trying to get people booked. While I’m delighted with the victories in the classicos of late, the playacting will always turn one game watchers off. Neither team really do it until it’s a big time game. Come on barca
But anyway it shows why ronaldo won’t win balon d,or. As you said in your analysis messi is a team player, ronaldo isn’t. Messi does well in big games, ronaldo doesn’t.
As a life-long Celtic fan I admire Barcelona for not only how they play the game but how they run their club. Mes que une club (spelling might be off). They are indeed and I enjoy watching them slice through the clubs coming from ‘the greatest league in the world’ haha. Celtic were once as attractive to watch, sadly money has taken over and we can’t hope to emulate the rich in our league. Im glad that at least Barcelona can stay strong and illustrate perfectly that a left-wing outlook can still prosper over right-wing insta-greed. Forza Barcelona.
Thrilling analysis. Didn’t expect anything different from you if I’m being perfectly honest.
I’m a huge admirer of Ronaldo, but I couldn’t agree more with your comments regarding him being a liability in the bigger games, particularly against Barcelona. Even at United he always failed to perform against the Catalan giants, but Ferguson’s tactics in 2009 didn’t help that – sticking him up top looking stranded.
But would you risk leaving him out of games like this? Not a hope, which is strange if you truly believe what you said.
If memory serves me right Real have won one trophy under Mourinho and Ronaldo scored the winner in the final against Barca. He’s also scored in a CL final which was pivotal in United winning the CL. Anyone who scores 78 goals in 83 games cannot be labelled a liability or a choker. I’m a firm believer that Messi is way beyond CR as a player but as someone who watches a lot of La Liga, I’ve seen Ronaldo playing some fantastic team games where he’s provided and been unselfish. I think its harsh to judge him on Clasicos when Real are up against the best club side ever. He’s obviously so desperate to score and eclipse the Messi comparison. Once he ages and shakes off the ego and concentrates on Madrid rather than being better than Messi you’ll see a far better player.
Delighted Barcelona won after that awful error by Valdes. The assist by Messi was genius to set up Alexis and the linking between Alves and Cesc was superb. Real’s own goal was just desserts for the Benzema incident.
All my 32 years a Cule, a Cule til my dying breath and beyond.
Argumentative to say that cup final wasnt as important as the league match where barca were so far ahead. If google is not mistaken 8 with 6 games to go and real certainly celebrated the Copa win like it was important.
Anyway, still loved the piece, far more insightful and thought provoking then the usual Sunday morning red top tripe.
Delighted Barca won . I thought looking at previous Real games this that Jose had turned Ronaldo into a unselfish team player who could be as good for Real as Messie is for Barca. How wrong can I be . Leon has nothing to fear about been the best player in the world maybe the best of all time.
Okay I’ve seen videos of that era and I wouldn’t have rated them as highly as others taking into account also the era and difficulty for the players with pitches, balls etc. The difference for me is that the truely great teams win multiple cups. Think Bayern with Beckenb, Ajax with Cryuff, Milan with Guillit and Barca with Messi. Not taking away from 67 Celtic but having watched all off the teams listed they’ve never came into my mind as being in same class as that list of teams. What is amazing is all homegrown players in the 67 team though.
A fair point. Rate them below those you listed, but rate them high. A more one sided game than the 67 you’ll never see. Inter were the dominant team in world football based on defence and strangulation. Multiple cups were won by them. Celtic battered them after conceding and it took until 2 years ago for inter to recover.
Basically,Stein reinvented attacking football to beat the utterly unbeatable inter. But sure, that was maybe just a blip in your eyes. Sigh!
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Great analysis
Much appreciated sir.
I’ve been a barca fan for 18 years and its never easy to watch el classicos. In these games both teams are guilty of playacting and trying to get people booked. While I’m delighted with the victories in the classicos of late, the playacting will always turn one game watchers off. Neither team really do it until it’s a big time game. Come on barca
But anyway it shows why ronaldo won’t win balon d,or. As you said in your analysis messi is a team player, ronaldo isn’t. Messi does well in big games, ronaldo doesn’t.
As a life-long Celtic fan I admire Barcelona for not only how they play the game but how they run their club. Mes que une club (spelling might be off). They are indeed and I enjoy watching them slice through the clubs coming from ‘the greatest league in the world’ haha. Celtic were once as attractive to watch, sadly money has taken over and we can’t hope to emulate the rich in our league. Im glad that at least Barcelona can stay strong and illustrate perfectly that a left-wing outlook can still prosper over right-wing insta-greed. Forza Barcelona.
Please detail for me when Celtic were as attractive to watch??
The late 1960s Celtic played pure high paced flowing football winning the European cup along the way
Great to hear impartial, yet true and brilliant analysis. Watch out g neville
There is no denying ronaldos quality but far too seldom in the big games.
ronaldo is the weak link in this real side. his selfishness cost real a comfortable lead at halftime.
Thrilling analysis. Didn’t expect anything different from you if I’m being perfectly honest.
I’m a huge admirer of Ronaldo, but I couldn’t agree more with your comments regarding him being a liability in the bigger games, particularly against Barcelona. Even at United he always failed to perform against the Catalan giants, but Ferguson’s tactics in 2009 didn’t help that – sticking him up top looking stranded.
But would you risk leaving him out of games like this? Not a hope, which is strange if you truly believe what you said.
If memory serves me right Real have won one trophy under Mourinho and Ronaldo scored the winner in the final against Barca. He’s also scored in a CL final which was pivotal in United winning the CL. Anyone who scores 78 goals in 83 games cannot be labelled a liability or a choker. I’m a firm believer that Messi is way beyond CR as a player but as someone who watches a lot of La Liga, I’ve seen Ronaldo playing some fantastic team games where he’s provided and been unselfish. I think its harsh to judge him on Clasicos when Real are up against the best club side ever. He’s obviously so desperate to score and eclipse the Messi comparison. Once he ages and shakes off the ego and concentrates on Madrid rather than being better than Messi you’ll see a far better player.
Among the greatest teams to play, many rate Celtics Lisbon Lions 67-70 as one of the most “total football”teams.
Liverpool at their best,Ajax,barca would all share the same top table status.
Delighted Barcelona won after that awful error by Valdes. The assist by Messi was genius to set up Alexis and the linking between Alves and Cesc was superb. Real’s own goal was just desserts for the Benzema incident.
All my 32 years a Cule, a Cule til my dying breath and beyond.
VISCA BARCA Y VISCA CATLUNYA!!!!!!
Excellent except for the flaw about barca winning all important games. Copa del rey final last year.
Much appreciated sir, thanks. Although that point was intended. Barca lost the least important of the four games over April/May last season.
Argumentative to say that cup final wasnt as important as the league match where barca were so far ahead. If google is not mistaken 8 with 6 games to go and real certainly celebrated the Copa win like it was important.
Anyway, still loved the piece, far more insightful and thought provoking then the usual Sunday morning red top tripe.
Delighted Barca won . I thought looking at previous Real games this that Jose had turned Ronaldo into a unselfish team player who could be as good for Real as Messie is for Barca. How wrong can I be . Leon has nothing to fear about been the best player in the world maybe the best of all time.
Okay I’ve seen videos of that era and I wouldn’t have rated them as highly as others taking into account also the era and difficulty for the players with pitches, balls etc. The difference for me is that the truely great teams win multiple cups. Think Bayern with Beckenb, Ajax with Cryuff, Milan with Guillit and Barca with Messi. Not taking away from 67 Celtic but having watched all off the teams listed they’ve never came into my mind as being in same class as that list of teams. What is amazing is all homegrown players in the 67 team though.
A fair point. Rate them below those you listed, but rate them high. A more one sided game than the 67 you’ll never see. Inter were the dominant team in world football based on defence and strangulation. Multiple cups were won by them. Celtic battered them after conceding and it took until 2 years ago for inter to recover.
Basically,Stein reinvented attacking football to beat the utterly unbeatable inter. But sure, that was maybe just a blip in your eyes. Sigh!