PARAIC DUFFY BELIEVES it was ‘reprehensible’ that no one was held to account for the controversy that emerged last April when Donegal footballer Patrick McBrearty suffered a bite to his arm.
In the GAA Director-General’s annual report, which was published this morning, Duffy slammed the incident as ‘disgusting and shocking’.
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“One of the low points of 2013 came in April during the Donegal v Dublin Allianz football league game in Ballybofey. There is agreement on the fact that, during the game, Donegal player Patrick McBrearty sustained a severe bite to his arm.
“That was a disgusting and shocking incident in itself but what is just as reprehensible is that no one could be held to account for what happened. The CCCC investigated the matters as thoroughly as possible, but was greatly hindered by the absence of video and other evidence.
“No one was proved to have inflicted the bite simply because no one admitted to having done so and because the player who was bitten decided not to attend a hearing on the case. The counties involved may have chosen to deal with this incident solely in terms of their own interests.
“Be that as it may, they did not emerge with any credit and succeeded only in damaging the reputation of the Association. The responsibility for limiting the damage to the reputation of the Association lay with players, team officials and county committee officers.”
Duffy also expressed his hope that players will realize such ‘primitive behavior is shameful and dangerous’.
“At meetings subsequent to this episode, Central Council issue a directive that stipulated that such an action would be designed a Category III infraction, carrying a minimum suspension of eight weeks.
“One can only hope that the application of this directive will be unnecessary as players realize that such primitive behavior is shameful and dangerous, and that it has no place in Gaelic games.”
And what would you base that ridiculous claim on? Blurting out childish comments like that without the facts doesn’t mean you’re right. Only the Dubs offend in the GAA? No one outside of Dublin has transgressed the rules ever? Getting a stupid comment in just because you have some agenda against the Dubs really doesn’t make you look too clever.
I’m basing it on the fact that this is the second week in a row that a Dublin player biting an opponent has made the news, and at least one Dublin player has form for it, as can be seen in the video below. But no, perhaps Dublin fans would prefer not to acknowledge that some of their players are thugs.
Right so, a one second video (where a player with a gum shield goes for Kerrigans shoulder- is there proof that’s a definite bite?), does this prove your earlier allegation that all dubs are cage fighters? Does this prove the two other bites happened? No and no. Nice hyperbole.
Typical…The evidence is there in front of your eyes and you still refuse to believe it or acknowledge it. Just because there is no video evidence of the other incidents doesn’t mean they didn’t happen. Biting is a very serious allegation and not one that GAA player make lightly, It happened alright, 100% it happened. Just like the eye-gouging incident in last years All Ireland semi final happened too but the Gooch diplomatically passed it off as accidental.
“Prove it” Thats the standard retort from thugs and those who refuse to admit guilt. They aren’t man enough to stand up and admit it happened. Players just don’t run around making these accusations willy nilly and I’d believe it regardless of what county was involved.
I’m not calling you a thug, but you’re defending thuggery. You were shown video evidence of a biting incident above and you still refused to believe it.
The truth is, there has been always been an element of thuggery attached to Dublin footballers, The Micky Ned incident, Kieran Duff kicking a player in the head in 1983, Brian Mullins on Talty in 1983, Diarmuid Connolly assaulting a lad in a pub, the eye gouging on Gooch last year, these biting incidents, many more too I’m sure…It’s always been there and Dublin fans actually love it, but ye will never admit that of course.
I’m sure I can bring up incidents from the past to accuse your county of being thugs too. You’re using past incidents to try and jump to false conclusions about the last incident. Clutching at straws. You seem to have some inferiority complex, why I don’t know.
And the biting incident you showed, the only people that know if it was a bite are Kerrigan and the Dublin player involved.
You’ve brought up 4 things in the past 40 or so years and this proves “thuggery”. Aha. Bringing up Connolly’s personal troubles off the field also bears no relevance, plenty of gaa players have had off the field issues. And the GAA said themselves there was no evidence to an eye gouge. A picture proves nothing, you should at least have the intelligence to know that.
Isolated incidents? Which is exactly what you’re using to suit your arguments. Or should I say, isolated allegations. On the McMahon thing, can you see him actually bite Kerrigan? He probably did, but it’s inconclusive, anyone can see that.
It’s not a picture, it’s a video clearly showing an incident of biting, but continue to bury your head in the sand.
All I can is, ye are All Ireland champs and fair play, they won it playing a great brand of football, it’s a pity though that some player(s) are tarnishing their reputations with these thuggish incidents.
Right, fair enough, some players. I’m not defending Players like Brennan, Whelan in the past etc. but every county has some players who act like that and anyone who says otherwise is spoofing.
Bruno, you’re full of it. Dublin are no more or less “thuggish” than any other county. You obviously have some deep-seated issues with all things Dublin.
Nivag, my issue with Dublin are no more deep-seated than that Dublin players teeth were in Paddy McBreartys arm…Actually, that is pretty deep-seated come to think of it…
Well if you make such a serious accusation you have to able to back it up! Can’t just go around throwing out accusations like that, royal f**k up all round!
David I agree with most of what u say but I think it’s abit far fetched to suggest its only Dublin that get up to off the ball stuff. The great Meath team of late nineties were famous for it, while ulster teams of the early noughties were at it too. Unfortunately it’s a part of gaa, with most counties taking part. So I think the Dublin bashing is abit immature.
Dublin are the poster boys of the GAA and can’t do no wrong in the eyes O’Neill, Duffy and Co. If a Kerry or Tyrone player were involved it would have merited investigation and lengthy suspensions. Again they were involved in a biting incident in the O’Byrne Cup. What was done!!! Nothing. We’ve had head butts and off the ball poll axing by certain boys in blue over the past few years. What was done??? Nothing!!! I suppose the the Dubs bring in the cash so indiscretions can be swept under the carpet along with the help of the Dublin based and biased media. I think most genuine GAA fans and Dubs included just want fair play and consistency of disciplinary procedures and punishments. Their is no place for biting, elbows, testicle grabbing and gouging in GAA but there must be consistent suspensions handed out for all serious on field incidents that would land you in court if carried out in environs of bars, clubs etc.
Have you got proof or evidence of this bite (O’Byrne Cup alleged bite) that no one else seems to have before you make wild accusations? An allegation doesn’t mean something happened.
Your right that if it was Kerry/Tyrone it would be different, as they wouldn’t face a trial by media/hearsay where the player is judged guilty without any evidence whatsoever.
The O’Byrne cup incident is still being investigated as far as I know but the outcome will be the same.
As with the McBrearthy incident, you cannot ban someone on hear say alone, you need video evidence. But if the director general of the gaa is coming out in an official statement and saying there is no doubt that a bite took place, it’s very disappointing to hear. Leaving out a scenario where McBrearthy bit his own arm, or one of his teammates did, I think it’s safe to say a Dublin player was the perpetrator.
You can bury your head in the sand and say nothing happened but your not doing your county any favours.
That’s fair enough, and I, like most dubs, would have zero problem with a lengthy ban if any of these are actually proven.
Problem being that they haven’t. Proving McBrearty was bitten only proves one thing, that he was bitten. Not by who. Assuming who did it without evidence or just on he said/she said is a dangerous game.
Apologies, wasn’t having a go or anything. Agree, but doubt there’s many (if any) players in Ireland that would say it was them.
That’s the big problem, without video evidence in these type of games, you’ve almost nothing to prove it either way unless the ref has seen it.
I find it odd no medical expert bar the Donegal team doctor concluded it was a bite , plus why if he was so sure he was bitten did he not turn up to the hearing ?
It could of been dealt with internally between the two counties. Stop making it into a big deal. It’s the GAAs fault that none of there officials seen it, and the fact that there was no video.
Also get over your Dub bashing, anything to take away from the fact we are the best in the country by far….
Ye like the old biting though, weren’t they at it against DCU last week as well. Some of the players would be more suited to cage fighting…Oh, hang on a minute…
And all the players from all other counties are just little angels, eh Bruno? What about that chap from Blarney who busted an opponent’s jaw? Are all Cork players now thugs?
Seeing as the article states that a bite took place, any chance of you not deflecting from the issue and actually admitting that’s it’s out of line to bite an opponent?
Or will blind loyalty not allow you to do that?
Every country has their fair share of lads that step over the line from time to time… But we’re taking about biting here?
It’s hypothetical, but if it is agreed, after the enquiry is over, that a bit took place in the DCU game also, making that two incidents in a year, wind you admit there could be a problem?
Anyone proven to have bitten someone should serve a ban.
What I won’t stand for is mouthpieces like Bruno then getting on their high horses and coming up with twisted extrapolations. I mean, bringing up Brian Mullins?
The problem with you is that you don’t like the truth being told about some of your beloved heroes. You go on about proof because you try and pretend that if there is no video evidence, it didn’t happen. Well it did happen, it wouldn’t be an issue in the news otherwise.
Before 2011 a lot of
People would have said Dublin teams have a soft underbelly and werent able for the fight, now that Dublin won two all Ireland’s in 3years people are accusing them of being thugs. Lads cop on especially u Bruno, every county in Ireland has their hard men and every all Ireland winning team play on the edge. Look at Kilkenny, and fair dues to them
That’s all grand and you’ll never win anything being nice that’s for sure. I have no problem with lads pushing the boundaries, to a point…. But we’re talking about a bite here, a bite that did happen, according to the director general off the gaa. They might not have been able to prove it who did the biting, but it happened.
Now that is by no stretch of the imagination tough or hard, it’s thuggish.
This isn’t Dublin bashing, you are well deserving All Ireland champions, don’t be playing the victim card here. As I mentioned above in another post, your doing Dublin no favours by deflecting and ignoring the issue that McBrearthy was bitten.
The truth hurts obviously. And it seems you also don’t know that one of your own players is into that mixed martial arts / cage fighting crap…Oh, and here he is doing what looks suspiciously like a bit of biting as well
I agree with you Robert regarding the mcbrearty case and I would like to think that jim Gavin came down hard on the individual but I think calling Dublin a dirty team is wide of the mark. Some of the above comments are making Dublin out to be the dirtiest team around which I personally would disagree with
No one is calling it manly! It’s a physical sport but anything that happens off the ball can’t be tolerated, I think 99% off GAA fans would agree on that. If you take the stamping incidents in rugby then they would be called serious assaults on the street, I’m sure rugby fans wouldn’t call that manly either. Where’s the line between a “bust up” and assualt is debatable. In physical games you are going to get people who look to hit and hurt people, I’ve played with them, it’s up to officials, coaches and players to try and eliminate it. But I think you have a very subjective view of the GAA
Can’t wait to see the Dub bashing next year when we complete the back to back. All joking aside,if a fella bites an opposing player and isn’t caught by the video, the manager should step up and suspend him.
First the bite at donegal game now dcu game. With all the money they have would they not think of buying few boxes of Jaffa cakes or bananas or even few ham sandwiches to give to their players before they go out on the field #feedthedubs #bandaid2014
Cos in soccer they would have been a big media hunt on who bit who. The player bitten would probably have had to get a rabies shot love on sky sports news. Maybe gaa is played by men and soccer by ladyboys!
Respective county boards are to blame if i was chairman of what ever county and and one of my county players was accused of biting another player..well i would want it investigated firstly if my player didnt well he deserves a public apology and if he did bite well the good people who paid now know the truth and i would tell that player thanks for his service but your county does not need you anymore to represent them.its simple not acceptable.gaa is ruined by the win at all cost mentality which is ruining the games
Why did the donegal player not attend the hearing?
Can you convict a a man of biting an opponent when the “bitten” man won’t say he was bitten.
Duffy says there is a agreement that the incident happened. Agreement between who? All a bit thin really.
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Biting…Only the Dubs would resort to this sort of thuggery.
And what would you base that ridiculous claim on? Blurting out childish comments like that without the facts doesn’t mean you’re right. Only the Dubs offend in the GAA? No one outside of Dublin has transgressed the rules ever? Getting a stupid comment in just because you have some agenda against the Dubs really doesn’t make you look too clever.
I’m basing it on the fact that this is the second week in a row that a Dublin player biting an opponent has made the news, and at least one Dublin player has form for it, as can be seen in the video below. But no, perhaps Dublin fans would prefer not to acknowledge that some of their players are thugs.
http://balls.ie/gaa/the-time-that-philly-mcmahon-bit-paul-kerrigan/
Right so, a one second video (where a player with a gum shield goes for Kerrigans shoulder- is there proof that’s a definite bite?), does this prove your earlier allegation that all dubs are cage fighters? Does this prove the two other bites happened? No and no. Nice hyperbole.
Typical…The evidence is there in front of your eyes and you still refuse to believe it or acknowledge it. Just because there is no video evidence of the other incidents doesn’t mean they didn’t happen. Biting is a very serious allegation and not one that GAA player make lightly, It happened alright, 100% it happened. Just like the eye-gouging incident in last years All Ireland semi final happened too but the Gooch diplomatically passed it off as accidental.
It 100% happened? Prove it.
Bitter culchies can’t stand to watch Dublin win all Ireland’s hence the usual anti Dublin cak re dirty Dubs. Champions. That is all :)
So you can state that you know it happened 100% but yet can provide absolutely no proof? Well then it didn’t 100% happen. BS.
“Prove it” Thats the standard retort from thugs and those who refuse to admit guilt. They aren’t man enough to stand up and admit it happened. Players just don’t run around making these accusations willy nilly and I’d believe it regardless of what county was involved.
So your saying an accusation means it’s true. And calling anyone who says Prove It a thug (including me?)
I’m not calling you a thug, but you’re defending thuggery. You were shown video evidence of a biting incident above and you still refused to believe it.
The truth is, there has been always been an element of thuggery attached to Dublin footballers, The Micky Ned incident, Kieran Duff kicking a player in the head in 1983, Brian Mullins on Talty in 1983, Diarmuid Connolly assaulting a lad in a pub, the eye gouging on Gooch last year, these biting incidents, many more too I’m sure…It’s always been there and Dublin fans actually love it, but ye will never admit that of course.
I’m sure I can bring up incidents from the past to accuse your county of being thugs too. You’re using past incidents to try and jump to false conclusions about the last incident. Clutching at straws. You seem to have some inferiority complex, why I don’t know.
And the biting incident you showed, the only people that know if it was a bite are Kerrigan and the Dublin player involved.
You may be able to bring up an isolated incident or two but nothing like the consistency with which Dublin players tend to offend violently.
Oh I think it’s very clear what happened between Kerrigan and McMahon, only a blind man or a person choosing not to see it would not acknowledge it.
You’ve brought up 4 things in the past 40 or so years and this proves “thuggery”. Aha. Bringing up Connolly’s personal troubles off the field also bears no relevance, plenty of gaa players have had off the field issues. And the GAA said themselves there was no evidence to an eye gouge. A picture proves nothing, you should at least have the intelligence to know that.
Isolated incidents? Which is exactly what you’re using to suit your arguments. Or should I say, isolated allegations. On the McMahon thing, can you see him actually bite Kerrigan? He probably did, but it’s inconclusive, anyone can see that.
It’s not a picture, it’s a video clearly showing an incident of biting, but continue to bury your head in the sand.
All I can is, ye are All Ireland champs and fair play, they won it playing a great brand of football, it’s a pity though that some player(s) are tarnishing their reputations with these thuggish incidents.
The eye gouge is a picture I meant. The video of the ‘bite’ is 1 second long. It’s hardly completely conclusive.
Right, fair enough, some players. I’m not defending Players like Brennan, Whelan in the past etc. but every county has some players who act like that and anyone who says otherwise is spoofing.
Bruno, you’re full of it. Dublin are no more or less “thuggish” than any other county. You obviously have some deep-seated issues with all things Dublin.
Bruno , was that your inbred head I seen outside croker yesterday hoping to throw your jocks at gareth brooks ?
They had to toughen up the Meath boys use to knock seven shades of shite out of them
Bruno you really are a weapons grade wánker.
Are you next in line to be handed your arse, Pete, I’m not sure you are…Wait your turn like a good man and Bruno will get around to ya soon.
Nivag, my issue with Dublin are no more deep-seated than that Dublin players teeth were in Paddy McBreartys arm…Actually, that is pretty deep-seated come to think of it…
I agree! If the chap got a bite to his arm, somebody should of been accountable!
The whole process was a disaster from start to finish and I don’t think the GAA are entirely blameless in the unsatisfactory outcome for all parties.
Duffy is a bit out of order implying some responsibility lay with McBrearty to come forward about it.
Well if you make such a serious accusation you have to able to back it up! Can’t just go around throwing out accusations like that, royal f**k up all round!
McBrearty didn’t make the accusation himself though and there was agreement on the fact that he was bitten, as it stated in the article.
David I agree with most of what u say but I think it’s abit far fetched to suggest its only Dublin that get up to off the ball stuff. The great Meath team of late nineties were famous for it, while ulster teams of the early noughties were at it too. Unfortunately it’s a part of gaa, with most counties taking part. So I think the Dublin bashing is abit immature.
Yes to all this
Dublin are the poster boys of the GAA and can’t do no wrong in the eyes O’Neill, Duffy and Co. If a Kerry or Tyrone player were involved it would have merited investigation and lengthy suspensions. Again they were involved in a biting incident in the O’Byrne Cup. What was done!!! Nothing. We’ve had head butts and off the ball poll axing by certain boys in blue over the past few years. What was done??? Nothing!!! I suppose the the Dubs bring in the cash so indiscretions can be swept under the carpet along with the help of the Dublin based and biased media. I think most genuine GAA fans and Dubs included just want fair play and consistency of disciplinary procedures and punishments. Their is no place for biting, elbows, testicle grabbing and gouging in GAA but there must be consistent suspensions handed out for all serious on field incidents that would land you in court if carried out in environs of bars, clubs etc.
Have you got proof or evidence of this bite (O’Byrne Cup alleged bite) that no one else seems to have before you make wild accusations? An allegation doesn’t mean something happened.
Your right that if it was Kerry/Tyrone it would be different, as they wouldn’t face a trial by media/hearsay where the player is judged guilty without any evidence whatsoever.
The O’Byrne cup incident is still being investigated as far as I know but the outcome will be the same.
As with the McBrearthy incident, you cannot ban someone on hear say alone, you need video evidence. But if the director general of the gaa is coming out in an official statement and saying there is no doubt that a bite took place, it’s very disappointing to hear. Leaving out a scenario where McBrearthy bit his own arm, or one of his teammates did, I think it’s safe to say a Dublin player was the perpetrator.
You can bury your head in the sand and say nothing happened but your not doing your county any favours.
That’s fair enough, and I, like most dubs, would have zero problem with a lengthy ban if any of these are actually proven.
Problem being that they haven’t. Proving McBrearty was bitten only proves one thing, that he was bitten. Not by who. Assuming who did it without evidence or just on he said/she said is a dangerous game.
I can’t argue with that response, you certainly can’t ban someone on hear say. I took your initial response up wrong.
I suppose it’s just a little disappointing that someone didn’t come forward, however unrealistic that would be.
Apologies, wasn’t having a go or anything. Agree, but doubt there’s many (if any) players in Ireland that would say it was them.
That’s the big problem, without video evidence in these type of games, you’ve almost nothing to prove it either way unless the ref has seen it.
Give it a bloody rest with the reverse victimisation David, for crying out loud.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/dublins-jason-whelan-banned-for-eight-weeks-following-bite-investigation-29942378.html
I find it odd no medical expert bar the Donegal team doctor concluded it was a bite , plus why if he was so sure he was bitten did he not turn up to the hearing ?
Because he didn’t want to have to go to the hearing and name the player in question.
The report also had a pop at Dublins deal with AIG.
Lots of Dubs bashing here, we are better then you! Deal with it.
It could of been dealt with internally between the two counties. Stop making it into a big deal. It’s the GAAs fault that none of there officials seen it, and the fact that there was no video.
Also get over your Dub bashing, anything to take away from the fact we are the best in the country by far….
Ye like the old biting though, weren’t they at it against DCU last week as well. Some of the players would be more suited to cage fighting…Oh, hang on a minute…
And all the players from all other counties are just little angels, eh Bruno? What about that chap from Blarney who busted an opponent’s jaw? Are all Cork players now thugs?
Generalisations are for simpletons.
Nivag,
Seeing as the article states that a bite took place, any chance of you not deflecting from the issue and actually admitting that’s it’s out of line to bite an opponent?
Or will blind loyalty not allow you to do that?
Every country has their fair share of lads that step over the line from time to time… But we’re taking about biting here?
It’s hypothetical, but if it is agreed, after the enquiry is over, that a bit took place in the DCU game also, making that two incidents in a year, wind you admit there could be a problem?
Anyone proven to have bitten someone should serve a ban.
What I won’t stand for is mouthpieces like Bruno then getting on their high horses and coming up with twisted extrapolations. I mean, bringing up Brian Mullins?
The problem with you is that you don’t like the truth being told about some of your beloved heroes. You go on about proof because you try and pretend that if there is no video evidence, it didn’t happen. Well it did happen, it wouldn’t be an issue in the news otherwise.
Before 2011 a lot of
People would have said Dublin teams have a soft underbelly and werent able for the fight, now that Dublin won two all Ireland’s in 3years people are accusing them of being thugs. Lads cop on especially u Bruno, every county in Ireland has their hard men and every all Ireland winning team play on the edge. Look at Kilkenny, and fair dues to them
That’s all grand and you’ll never win anything being nice that’s for sure. I have no problem with lads pushing the boundaries, to a point…. But we’re talking about a bite here, a bite that did happen, according to the director general off the gaa. They might not have been able to prove it who did the biting, but it happened.
Now that is by no stretch of the imagination tough or hard, it’s thuggish.
This isn’t Dublin bashing, you are well deserving All Ireland champions, don’t be playing the victim card here. As I mentioned above in another post, your doing Dublin no favours by deflecting and ignoring the issue that McBrearthy was bitten.
You absolute moron. Out of curiosity which players would you prefer to see in a cage?
The truth hurts obviously. And it seems you also don’t know that one of your own players is into that mixed martial arts / cage fighting crap…Oh, and here he is doing what looks suspiciously like a bit of biting as well
http://balls.ie/gaa/the-time-that-philly-mcmahon-bit-paul-kerrigan/
Bruno you sound like you were scorned by the dubs…meath man? Mayo man?
Put your head in the sand all you want, there are some thugs playing on your football team.
You a silly wee lad, Bruno
Tell me Bruno, will u be man enough to tell us what county u are from?
I agree with you Robert regarding the mcbrearty case and I would like to think that jim Gavin came down hard on the individual but I think calling Dublin a dirty team is wide of the mark. Some of the above comments are making Dublin out to be the dirtiest team around which I personally would disagree with
Typical GAA. Violence is seen as “manly”.
Guy in Cork got 2 months in jail for attacking an opponent. He was suspended for 12 weeks by the GAA, then it was REDUCED to 8 weeks.
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/gaelic-footballer-jailed-for-assault-on-opponent-1.1656676
No one is calling it manly! It’s a physical sport but anything that happens off the ball can’t be tolerated, I think 99% off GAA fans would agree on that. If you take the stamping incidents in rugby then they would be called serious assaults on the street, I’m sure rugby fans wouldn’t call that manly either. Where’s the line between a “bust up” and assualt is debatable. In physical games you are going to get people who look to hit and hurt people, I’ve played with them, it’s up to officials, coaches and players to try and eliminate it. But I think you have a very subjective view of the GAA
Can’t wait to see the Dub bashing next year when we complete the back to back. All joking aside,if a fella bites an opposing player and isn’t caught by the video, the manager should step up and suspend him.
he can’t be suspended, he was dropped from the panel
Ye boys must be enjoying your all Ireland victory spending every day on here complaining of Dublin bashing maybe it’s time to change the record?
First the bite at donegal game now dcu game. With all the money they have would they not think of buying few boxes of Jaffa cakes or bananas or even few ham sandwiches to give to their players before they go out on the field #feedthedubs #bandaid2014
I can’t believe it. A gahliban story and no comments on how ‘soccer’ is worse. Well done lads. You’re really growing.
Cos in soccer they would have been a big media hunt on who bit who. The player bitten would probably have had to get a rabies shot love on sky sports news. Maybe gaa is played by men and soccer by ladyboys!
As far as I know the biter in question was dropped from the panel anyway for football reasons
Respective county boards are to blame if i was chairman of what ever county and and one of my county players was accused of biting another player..well i would want it investigated firstly if my player didnt well he deserves a public apology and if he did bite well the good people who paid now know the truth and i would tell that player thanks for his service but your county does not need you anymore to represent them.its simple not acceptable.gaa is ruined by the win at all cost mentality which is ruining the games
Why did the donegal player not attend the hearing?
Can you convict a a man of biting an opponent when the “bitten” man won’t say he was bitten.
Duffy says there is a agreement that the incident happened. Agreement between who? All a bit thin really.