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Declan Kidney: We’ll take positives from Springboks defeat

The Ireland coach insists his new-look side will learn from today’s first November International.

Declan Kidney: saw Ireland lose out in the end.
Declan Kidney: saw Ireland lose out in the end.
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IRELAND HEAD COACH Declan Kidney insists he’ll take the positives from this evening’s defeat to South Africa at the Aviva Stadium.

Kidney saw his side relinquish a half-time lead in their first November International at Lansdowne Rd.

“We were going okay until half-time but Test matches always have about four of five different parts to play and South Africa got their mauling game going, they smothered us a lot in the second half and we found it difficult to get going,” the Corkman told RTÉ afterwards.

Kidney sent out a new-look team shorn of stars like Brian O’Driscoll, Sean O’Brien and Paul O’Connell. And, though stand-in skipper Jamie Heaslip was sin-binned on his big day, Kidney insists it’s onwards and upwards.

“We gave up a penalty and they went for touch and so their intent to go after us in the maul was pretty clear,” he said of the incident that led to the costly yellow card. “They got a good roll on the maul and instead of letting them walk over we went in to make them work hard but the referee decided it was a yellow card.”

“We won’t make excuses,” he continued. “We have good players here now so we just need to learn from it, there a little bit of experience that we need as well then too.  There’s a lot of inexperience there and I think a lot of them stood up. We’ll have to see how guys repair after this match and then pick the best team for next week.”

Michael Bent — fresh of the plane and the subject of much scrutiny — was also introduced during the second period and earned the praise of his new coach.

“I think you saw when he came on there he steadied up the scrum. We had conceded two penalties from the two scrums previous, so he steadied it up and we managed to pick up a penalty there,” Kidney told Clare McNamara.

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Comments (38 Comments)

  • Take the positives from this & learn from that. Doing that for an age now and the players must be nearly professors with all the learning they are doing!!!! How about a few results???

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    • This was a friendly used as an opportunity to experiment, to blood some new players and to keep building a side for the future – the ‘results at all costs’ attitude is very short sighted.

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    • @mattoid – this is a friendly which very much matters. Ireland are 7th in the world one place ahead of Argentina. Argentina beat Wales which will do wonders for their ranking and World Cup seeding. If we keep losing and Argentina keep winning, we’ll slip to 8th and be the worst of the big rugby nations in the world cup seedlings….so it very much matters

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    • yep thats the sixth possitive in a row.

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    • @mattoid there is no such thing as a friendly international rugby test as every game counts towards our ranking, which in turn directly effects our qualification and opposition in tournaments like the world cup for instance.. Kidney needs to stop taking positives and start ‘hulking’ on the negatives..

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    • mattoid 11/11/12 #

      Fair enough – point taken about ranking points, but what other opportunities are there to try out new players and combinations in a ‘real world’ environment, not to mention giving your players of the future the experience of playing against world class opposition?

      My point was was that every team has a ‘lifespan’ and a particular group of players will peak at a certain time. That time has now passed for the golden era grand slam team and we must rebuild again from the bottom.

      Look at Munster-Leinster: four years ago Munster were peaking and Leinster were rebuilding, now it is the other way round.

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  • I was asking for Declan Kidney to be replaced this time last year, it’s only a matter of time, why wait any longer?
    Lets get the Director of Rugby from Harlequins over here ASAP and start preparing for the RWC properly.

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  • I really like Declan Kidney as a man & he has been a great servant to Irish rugby but I think there needs to be a new voice in the dressing room.

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  • 5 defeats in a row, worst run in 14 years. Trap hasn’t had a record that bad and everyone wanted his head. Kidney should feel very very nervous going into this fiji match. People are far too easy on the irish Rugby team who are supposed to be number 7 in the world.
    Not good enough.

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    • 7th in the world of rugby is pathetic considering the number of teams that play competitively. Everybody is calling for Traps head, me included, but there is a far higher percentage of decent teams below our ranking.

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  • honest question, have we ever competed at the highest level? we have yet to win a knockout game in a WC and our golden generation won one grand slam in the same period as Wales won 3 and England have competed in two finals.

    all that said our provincial teams have excelled

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    • We have/had the players but in the past 3 world cups our coach has let us down. After beating the Aussies ( the best result in our history) he changes both halfbacks. I honestly believe if the same team that played v Australia played Wales we would have won.

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  • What’s good to clear up a persistent Kidney infection??? Does cranberry juice work???

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  • Our 13 yesterday is a great talent but at this level he lacks the physicality for this position. His future is on the wing and we need to find a replacement for BOD fast.

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  • Do Specsavers sell the rose tinted glasses? Let’s not lose sight of the fact that we watched a very poor Boks team yesterday and especially in the first half. D’Arcy is a liability. He made very little ground with his predictable breaks and was bounced about like a beach ball. O’Sullivan, in the Irish Times, says “Ireland’s aggressive defensive line superbly led by D’Arcy, who made three thumping tackles in the first half”. Good God, I must have watched a different game altogether. How many of our attacks ended abruptly and without any points as a result of us screwing it up. I stopped counting. Zebo didn’t like the high ball but he was hungry for the ball and he worked very well with Tommy Bowe. Murray offered very little of anything other than overcooked box kicks which must have hurt the forwards like hell. We have better options at 9. Earls tried his lights out fair play to him but he isn’t a centre. End of. O’Kidney must have slept most of the 2nd half as his use of the bench was criminal. Bents influence was immense and fierce when he did finally, albeit it too late, came on to aid an already crumbling front row. Why did O’Kidney watch and wait as our scrum fell apart before making the changes. God help the lads in Limerick. O’Kidney is the master of post-match excuses and makes Alastair Campbell look like an amateur.

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  • i think if they were there till next week they would not cross for a try.god help us when B.oD is gone

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  • The only positive I saw from this was blooding of some new players but other than that it was disappointing.

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  • Nothing more annoying than a match report review with no score

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  • If we want to compete at the highest level in international rugby we need a coach from the southern hemisphere preferably from NZ.

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  • Get a replacement for BOD “fast” have we not been looking for that over the last few years? Where do we look New Zealand perhaps. Replacing a genius is not easy as they only come around every 20/30 odd years or so.

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  • The only positives Kidney can take is that SA were jet lagged for the first half. The great pretender Kidney is being found out at last.

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  • I hate you so much Deccie

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  • Not a good result, I agree, but to early to be calling for heads on a plate !! Get the experienced players fit and back in the squad, blood younger players to international level, I believe the talent is there, but kidney can’t be allowed to hide behind this process . Positive results and performances need to follow

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    • Ah I fully agree with you. Way too early for Deccie to be judged. Rome wasn’t built in a day. Let’s see how his record stands after 12 years. 4 years is way too short for judging success

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    • seagizmo 11/11/12 #

      I don’t agree. His brand is to predicable, too easy to defend against and far too easy to prepare for. We need to look at his position and those around him on the coaching staff. Player have the ability but are being put out on the field without adequate game plans.

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    • Ronan it sounds like your asking for Kindey to get another 8 years in charge. nThe man is bankrupt, no ideas, no plan. nHe has to go. nIf he was half the man some of you seem to think he’d hold up his hand and step down.

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  • It was the first story I scrolled to relating to the match. There are rarely two stories about the same subject unless its a slow news day. It’s still good practice to include the score in report relating to a game is it not. So what was the score. I assume we bottled it again

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  • International rugby has taken the back seat to the provincial game from what I can see. The Irish players have experienced great success with their provincial sides over the years. Is it now the case that players have lost interest in the international game because they have more desire and see greater chance of success with their provincial team? What is the motivation for this set of players to play for Ireland. The quality and depth of squad is just not there to currently compete for international success against the top sides in world cups or six nations. #provincialdistraction

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