Except that this Leinster team are better than any Munster team of the professional era. The manner in which Leinster play is actually very similar to the ABs. They live off the errors of the other team and also pick the time to up tempo and score a couple of tries. That technique is in evidence for NZ as in every game they have a strong 10-15 min period and the rest of the time they just roll with the punches. Leinster closely follow this style of play and thus the comparisons that are being made. Munster never had what this Leinster squad have right now so don’t be disrespecting the best club team in the world it comes across a little silly!

Munster have beaten the All Blacks – a feat no other Irish side has ever done . When the goys of Leinster do that, come back and talk to me !

that is exactly it. the style of it all.

munster are and always have been dull, winning or losing. kidney is dull. i think in a few years time people will look back on kidney and his approach and wonder how on earth they accepted that. we can only imagine what irleand and munster could really have been like (and before we hear all the ‘we won’ stuff, wouldn’t it have been even better to have advanced the casue of rugby itself at the same time instead of stifling everything until the team most able to stranglehold became the ‘best’ team

Agree completely – OBrien an outstanding No 6 never a No7. OMahony has pace and deserves his chance. Personally I think they will get steamrolled in all 3 tests. I’d blood more than 3 new caps – what have we got to lose. IRFU just thinking of our overall world rankings – they are strangling any chance of new lads coming through. Kidney is doing what he is told to do. Much like soccer crowd who won’t allow Celtic and 2 other big clubs play inThomonf Park !

Elrat, Im guessing you jumped on the Munster bandwagon a few years back, cos you’ve no idea about rugby. SOB’s become an excellent 7, you don’t beat Clermont in France without a competent 7. He’s still very young & learning his new trade at open-side, he’ll rival Pocock & Warburton soon enough. Oh, and it was a Leinsterman Tony Ward that beat the All Blacks for yous…

Elrat you are spot on they should!

Most of the Dubs posting on here seem to think that anyway…
The mentality is:
Leinster player = good
Munster player = bad

They ARE the All Blacks of Europe. If you had any idea of playing styles, you would notice this.

I think it’s time we got to see Zebo at international level, although NZ would be a tough baptism. I wouldn’t describe him as ordinary either, but what we haven’t seen is how good he is defensively.

I’d agree with Madigan ahead of O’Gara. We need to start the process of getting an understudy and eventual successor to Sexton into the team. In the long run, that might turn out to be any one of Madigan, Paddy Jackson or Scott Deasy, but for the time being Madigan is in pole position, with more experience than the other two. Also, after his Heineken Cup final nightmare, Jackson could probably do with some time out of the limelight (N.B. One bad match shouldn’t ruin a players career as anyone who remembers Matthew Tait’s debut for England against Wales should remember).

Delighted to see Cave in there.I know he’s had his injury problems, but he’s long overdue another cap.

Your comment about O’Mahoney is just plain stupid, he’s a fine player, agree with your regarding O’Gara, no need for O’Callaghan either, why not bring Zebo? Have to give youth a chance, pity he didn’t include Madigan and Marshall

O’Mahony is a one trick pony he carries hard and he puts his body on the line but against New Zealand that is not enough. I believe that McLaughlin is a more intelligent and more useful player as back row cover and he also is useful in the line out where I have yet to see a major contribution from O’Mahony. Regarding Zebo I think that he is one of the most over rated players in our provincial teams. I am all for giving youth it’s chance and I’m delighted to see Touhy in there but there are much better outside backs playing in this country than Zebo. D Kearney is a much stronger player as is Craig Gilroy. Zebo will not be a consistent international in this country at any point in his career yet D Kearney is a much more solid and consistently intelligent player. I fear that kidney is too closely tied to Munster and thus this team are destined for failure under his tutelage. Its a pity but it’s true

I’m sorry I have to disagree with ya regarding O’Mahoney, talking about giving youth a chance yet you want to leave the Irish young player of the year at home, he’s not just a one trick pony, he turns over some amount of ball, give McLaughlin a chance in the second row, Kidneys conservative selection policy is as frustrating for a Munster fan as it for any other Irish fan, I’d love if he was as brave as Gatland, but that’s never going to happen