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Stadium staff try to defrost the Stade de France pitch before the France v Ireland rugby international was called off.
Stadium staff try to defrost the Stade de France pitch before the France v Ireland rugby international was called off.
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- Updated 5.05pm

THE ORGANISERS OF the Six Nations tournament say they will make a decision “as soon as possible” – probably Monday – on when Ireland’s international fixture against France will be replayed.

The game – originally set for 9pm Parisian time on Saturday – was called off just six minutes its scheduled kickoff, after officials expressed concerns about frozen sections of the Stade de France pitch and decided the possibility of injury was too high.

In a statement released on Sunday, the International Rugby Board (IRB) backed referee Dave Pearson’s decision to postpone the clash, insisting that “player welfare and safety (was) the primary concern” after “the rapid deterioration of the playing surface between the final pitch inspection and the scheduled kick-off time”.

The IRB added that it had no further comment to make and that “all questions relating to rescheduling of the fixture should be directed to the Six Nations committee”.

While the temperatures in Paris had not been unexpected – with forecasts midweek projecting the temperature to fall to -7°C – the last-minute nature of the postponement angered many, not least the 10,000 Irish fans who had travelled to Saint-Denis for the game. The cancellation came despite a pitch inspection at 7:15pm by Pearson, who had then adjudged the pitch to be playable.

In the following period, however, sections at the perimeter of the pitch froze over and it was feared that the pitch itself could succumb to similar conditions. The cancellation was so late that the stadium band had already emerged, and were ready to play the anthems.

The tournament organising committee have largely maintained silence since – declining even to send any press circulars confirming the postponement or details surrounding it – with designated spokeswoman Christine Connolly (who had the duty of informing the crowd about the halt to proceedings) declining to comment on the decision.

She merely said a date for an announcement of the new match could be made “as soon as possible”, though it is now understood that no meetings are planned for today given the Wales v Scotland game taking place this afternoon.

Ireland coach Declan Kidney backed the decision to postpone the fixture, saying it was “very tough on one person”, referee Pearson, to have to make, “but I think in fairness to him he has made the right one”.

“It was quite dangerous in one corner. The way the protocol is there is nothing you can do but prepare for the game so the lads are fairly pumped up in the dressing room and ready for a game.

“The reaction to the guys in the dressing room was, ‘You’re joking me’. How do you get that pumped up for a game you know. International rugby or any professional rugby isn’t something where you arrive and you go out for a friendly jog around.”

Undersoil heating

With the Six Nations calendar being particularly crowded, there are only two weekends in which no other games are due – meaning there are only two weekends in which a refixture can be held.

The first of those weekends is next week, which would present a logistical problem: not only would 10,000 Irish fans have to try and find a last-minute way of getting to Paris, but the Stade de France is already scheduled to host a French Top 14 fixture.

The other possibility is three weekends time – with March 2 already being floated as a prospective date. That would mean the game taking place on Friday night – a not unprecedented occasion, with Friday night games featuring in the last four championships.

The possibility of another night-time kick-off is equally difficult, however – with many likely to question the logic of arranging another game with a late kick-off which could be equally hampered by cold conditions.

Although it is one of the world’s more modern stadia – built in time for France to host the FIFA World Cup 1998 – the Stade de France does not have undersoil heating.

This is because the stadium, built in the industrial district of Saint-Denis, is built on the site of an old gasworks – and it was feared that installing an underground heating system could cause an explosion.

Moving the game back three weeks would also make the rest of the Six Nations campaign difficult for both sides: each would then have to play games on four successive weekends.

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Comments (54 Comments)

  • jimbo 12/02/12 #
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    the desicion to call it off so late was stupid in the first place…

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    • Hugh Chaloner 12/02/12 #
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      … and risk the players? I think the last minute decision was correct. The stupidity was not cancelling last Wednesday. I’ve played on frozen ground and cracked a few ribs for my troubles.

  • Adrian O' Malley 12/02/12 #
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    Within a half hour of the game being cancelled Ryanair increased their fares on the weekend of the 3rd of March from €69 to €159…. That says it all really about that scumbag company. Thankfully im ryanair free for nearly 16 months now!

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    • Steven Smyth 12/02/12 #
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      Good on you Adrian. Keep it up.

    • Lionel Hutz 12/02/12 #
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      Why shouldn’t Ryanair put their prices up? It’s basic economics Supply v Demand. They are in business to make money and are still profitable throughout the recession and rising fuel prices.
      As much as people might not like Michael O’Leary or how they operate, you pay for what you get. They provide thousands of jobs here and are vital to Irish tourism.

    • Dave Jeffery 12/02/12 #
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      That’s how flight booking engines work Adrian, it’s an automatic process. As more sears are bought, less are available, thus the price for the remaining seats increases.

      It’s funny that people think Michael O’Leary is at home watching the game and as soon as the game is postponed until the first weekend in March, Michael calls up the website guys and tells them to jack up the prices. Doesn’t work like that I’m afraid. Ryanairs supply/demand based pricing model is the same as almost every modern airline.

    • Francis Stokes 12/02/12 #
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      Yes you are right Ryan air are always the same.The problem is they seem to have a monopoly and they play on that so much for cheap flights. One other thing Ryan air does not fliy to majo airports like London Gatwick and Because of the high ground taxes. They tend to fly into ,airports that may be far from you destination.

    • Francis Stokes 12/02/12 #
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      I meant London Heathrew I think they fly to London Gatwick.

    • Nichola Salmon 12/02/12 #
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      Eh Francis, Ryanair do in fact fly into London Gatwick..otherwise I’ve been landing at the wrong airport for years!

  • Daryl Walsh 12/02/12 #
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    Will the travelling Irish fans get any compensation??

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    • Dublin City 12/02/12 #
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      It will be quite difficult to apportion blame and responsibility on this to one of the organisations. No doubt on the back of the match ticket it has conditions attached to it about postponements etc… We are not responsible etc etc…. Travel insurance might pay out???

    • Rossa Graham 12/02/12 #
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      Compensation?! From who? Would the weather conditions be considered an “act of god”. God does not pay compensation, fictional characters are a nightmare when it comes to handing over cash

    • Anthony O'Brien 12/02/12 #
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      Oh yes! the act of God!……………. the insurance company’s best friend.

    • Dave Jeffery 12/02/12 #
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      Rossa: “God” told the IRB exactly what the weather would be like almost a week before the game. Weather forecasts from Monday had forecast the temperatures. This was no surprise.

      It’s highly unlikely that the IRB will refund the cost of travel and accommodation, it would cost them millions, but they should be expected to fully refund the price of the ticket.

    • Gordon Bernard 12/02/12 #
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      Should be renamed act of nature

  • John O'Brien 12/02/12 #
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    In all the reports read so far, not a wit of concern has been expressed for the fans who traveled out there. Makes sense to reschedule the match in Dublin next weekend! IRB and French board are looking like a bunch of muppets right now! No weather issues in Dublin and justice for supporters.

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    • Gavan Reilly 12/02/12 #
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      It might be justice for the Irish supporters, who have now travelled for effectively no reason, but it’s pretty rough on the 70,000 French – not all of whom are from Paris – who are similarly out of pocket, and who would be asked to travel to a stadium in Dublin which doesn’t have the capacity to hold all of them.

      It’s easy to overlook them but there are just as many French – particularly those who travel from the rugby heartlands in the south of the country – who are put in difficulty by this and it’s not fair to victimise them simply because the FFR dropped the ball on this.

  • Adrian O' Malley 12/02/12 #
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    Thousands of jobs to who exactly? Eastern europeans as far as i can see, disgruntled ones at that. I have yet to meet a jovial air steward on one of those cramped air buses. Id rather pay a few extra quid with aer lingus and get treated like a passenger and not a piece of livestock.

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    • The kop 12/02/12 #
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      exactly…. recent jobs announcement from Ryanair was a thousand i think….how many in Ireland??? that would be zero!!!! there also has to be some sort of safety issue with passengers not being able to understand what flight crew are saying even the pilot……..

    • Lizzie Day 12/02/12 #
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      Issues with ‘eastern Europeans’ Adrian? What’s the problem, if we work, we are paying taxes right? I hate you snooty rascist types that have issues with Polish, Slovakians etc. They work because they have the possibility to work, didn’t the Irish do the same thing in the US, Aus and UK? What makes us different?

    • William Grogan 12/02/12 #
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      I travel with Ryanair monthly. The flight staff are always pleasant.

    • Begrudgy 12/02/12 #
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      They, tuk, our, jobbbbbbbs.

    • Rob Thomson 12/02/12 #
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      Without those “Eastern Europeans” you’d have next to no infrastructure in places like Dublin simply because there wasn’t enough skilled labor to build it. Immigration is a fact of life and if you don’t like the service you get on your flight, sit down and shut up. No one wants to hear you whine and complain about a cheap flight that 15 years ago would have cost you 10 times what you’re paying now.

    • Lionel Hutz 12/02/12 #
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      Ryanair employ over 8000 people and all of these pay tax here as it is an Irish registered airline.

      http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/ryanair-lays-blame-with-government-as-1000-jobs-go-elsewhere-2991819.html

      There are also the jobs that are created by bringing people into the country buses, taxis car hire accommodation etc.
      Aer Lingus and every other commercial airline, hotel or other business all operate the same model if people are willing to pay then they can pretty much charge whatever they like since we live in an open economy.
      Ryanair have also helped create far greater competition in air travel. Imagine what the cost of a flight to Paris was 20 or 30 years ago. Most people in the country hadn’t even seen the inside of an airplane.

    • Sheila Larkin 12/02/12 #
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      I agree with William. I’ve travelled with Ryanair regularly and have found their staff lovely.

    • john joe 12/02/12 #
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      Happy are those who can pay extra adrian!

  • Rossa Graham 12/02/12 #
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    issues have we.

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  • Holemaster 12/02/12 #
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    “designed spokeswoman”

    Proof read please. It shows respect for the reader.

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  • Peter 66 12/02/12 #
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    You should read a couple of things yourself especially where you are asked to contact the author directly instead of trying to be smart when you stumble upon a typo.

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  • sarah 12/02/12 #
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    Safety first ! If the match went ahead and a player or players got serious injured from the frozen sections on the pitch and ruling them out for the rest of the 6 nations or longer, everyone would be complaining it should of been cancelled. its unfortunate for the French and Irish who traveled long distance for the match but that’s the risk they take.

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    • Gwyn Morgan 13/02/12 #
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      wow, I had completely forgotten what the article was about after getting sucked into the ryanair/ casual racism comments above

  • Noel Preston 12/02/12 #
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    Gobshite!

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  • Francis Stokes 12/02/12 #
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    It is said that the police made a decision not to broadcast the cancelling of the match till all people were settled in Stadium which they probably hand to do in case things got out of hand. But the organisers should have candled the match earlier in the day so that people new where they stood As for refund I would think that people will have to forgo their hotel experiences and flight expenses because they used the facilities anyway but that is up for questioning.. The ticket for the match will be refunded and they will get another one. If you kept your ticket you are alight but if you threw it away you might have a problem getting a refund.

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    • Adrian De Cleir 12/02/12 #
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      Never thought of the idea of people settling in the stadium. Makes sense,could have been alot lot worse than a cancelled match if the announcement was made when people were coming in.

    • Anne Cunningham 13/02/12 #
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      The stadium announcer said to keep your ticket and that it would be valid for the rescheduled match. I was just about to rip mine up in frustration – glad now that I didn’t!

  • Billygoatmuff 12/02/12 #
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    Somebody’s wife fecked off with the local rugger bugger.

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  • William Grogan 12/02/12 #
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    You should have a word with your doctor.

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  • William Grogan 12/02/12 #
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    I can think of worse ways to spend money than a few nights in Paris. I doubt the fans went straight back to their hotel beds.

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  • Adrian O' Malley 12/02/12 #
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    Snooty racist types? Good girl, where did you do your ‘make assumptions about people i dont know degree’? Id rather see Irish people who are out of work in work before an immigrant, if thats racism lock me up. Oh right, but it ok for O’Leary to put exhausted pilots on crazy shifts for peanuts and air hostesses on calenders with hardly anything but a smile… Give me a break

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    • William Grogan 12/02/12 #
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      Adrian, your comment “…exhausted pilots on crazy shift” is TOTAL bullshit.

    • Eamonn Dunne 12/02/12 #
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      Adrian, your facebook lists you as living in London. Your hypocrisy is incredible!!

    • Lizzie Day 13/02/12 #
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      Ha, so Adrian O’Malley is living in London, yet he has the gaul to criticise Eastern Europeans moving to Ireland. What a complete hypocrite. Please explain the difference Adrian I can’t imagine that you contributing to much over there other than taking English jobs and reading the Daily Mail. Tut tut shame on you.

  • Rob Thomson 12/02/12 #
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    How can you not have under pitch heating in today’s day and age? I get that they built the stadium over an old gasworks (first mistake) but there are/were alternative heating methods that could have been used that would not have posed the threat they described above. Either way, still a shame that they did not cancel the match much sooner when they knew they were going to have an issue with the pitch.

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  • Charles McCormack 12/02/12 #
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    Good girl Lizzie,no time for “poor me’s” either,especially with a racist/nationalistic slant,! Ya’ve made my “Day”,!!!

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  • Charles McCormack 12/02/12 #
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    Shut up O’Malley,you clown, with your “Irish first” for jobs. We’re ALL Europeans now. If you have issues with that address them to the cute hoors in our previous Governments that signed all the agreements,allowing any citizens to go AND work in any other member state. If they struck gold in Lithuania we could all go there and get rich. Goose/gander,!! Comprende,?

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  • Lelookcoco 12/02/12 #
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    Under soil heating might cause a fire at the old gasworks site? What about 30,000 Gitanes-smoking Frenchmen!!

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  • Sheila Larkin 12/02/12 #
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    He’s trolling, best to skip past him.

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  • Róisín Martin 12/02/12 #
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    Cancelling/Postponing the match: Right decision made at the wrong time.

    Had they not had a practice run at defrosting the pitch on Thursday or Friday night? Surely they’d have realised then that the whole fixture was a non runner.

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    Those little hearing contraptions they were using we’re never going to work. I live in London, missed the Wales match due to flight problems caused by snow, paid £200 for a train and hotel in Paris to watch the team warm up on the pitch and then not play.

    Officially sick as a parrot

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  • John Bolger 12/02/12 #
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    The French should be penalised for this and losing home advantage sounds fair enough to me.

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    • Cian Walsh 13/02/12 #
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      Stop being ridiculous, it’s unfortunate that the match was cancelled at such a late stage but it was done on safety grounds. Cancellations/abandonments happen every year in sport during bad weather, it’s unfortunate but it happens. No team should be penalised as they didn’t cause the postponement. How would you have reacted if they decided to cancel the match during the middle of the week or at 3 yesterday but then find out the pitch was fine at kick off. You’d consider that wrong too. In whatever scenario people would have still have paid for flights and accommodation so it was right to leave it as late as possible to try get the match played.

  • Anne Cunningham 13/02/12 #
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    Only just checked the back of my ticket – refund only available in case of total cancellation not postponement

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