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Cave started both June Tests for Ireland in Argentina. Dan Sheridan/INPHO

'I don't think I grabbed the shirt' - Darren Cave's Ireland concerns

The 27-year-old Ulster centre feels he could have done more to impress in Argentina in June.

HAVING WON WHAT felt like his first two international caps proper in June, Darren Cave admits to some concern over whether his performances were strong enough to keep him in the mix with Joe Schmidt’s Ireland.

After two starts against the US, two against Canada, and eight minutes off the bench against New Zealand in 2012, Cave’s appearances in the starting XV against Argentina had the feel of a true international beginning.

“A lot of my caps have come in, sort of, semi-depleted Irish teams, almost glorified Irish Wolfhound or ‘A’ teams. So it was nice to play alongside your Paul O’Connells, Jonny Sextons and that.

“I thought in the first Test I played pretty well, I was very happy with how it went. In the second Test, I didn’t think I played badly, I just felt afterwards that it would have been nice to have given a wee bit more, to make people say, ‘he should be involved in November.’”

Cave started the first Test in the 13 shirt, producing a number of eye-catching moments in Ireland’s 29-17 victory, before shifting inside to the 12 jersey for a quieter performance in the second game in Tucumán.

While the positions may appear quite similar, the Ulsterman points out that there is an adaptation involved, one which he didn’t handle as comfortably as he would have liked.

I didn’t think that I adapted on tour as well as I wanted to,” says the 27-year-old. “I thought it was an exciting opportunity for me to be playing 12 in the second Test and I didn’t think I played badly, but I don’t think I grabbed the shirt and had people saying ‘he has to play,’ which is obviously what I wanted to do.”

With Jared Payne soon to be qualified for Ireland, Robbie Henshaw returning from injury, and various other options for Schmidt to select from in midfield, it is a worry for Cave not to have put a stranglehold on an international place.

Not that he will be spending the upcoming season over-thinking things: ”In the past, I think I’ve played my worst rugby for Ulster when I’ve got too bogged down in worrying about international coaches.”

Darren Cave breaks free 27-year-old Cave now has 27 caps for Ireland. Dan Sheridan / INPHO Dan Sheridan / INPHO / INPHO

With the new season in mind, Cave had surgery on his shoulder six weeks ago, remedying a problem that stems all the way back to the Heineken Cup semi-final against Edinburgh in 2012.

“I took a big bang on my shoulder, subluxed it a wee bit. I’ve been able to manage it through the last couple of seasons, but I had to take the option to get it done this summer because next year there’s the World Cup.

To get it done next summer would rule me out of any chance I did have of going there and I didn’t think it would last another two years.”

A new element that may work in Cave’s favour with regard to Ireland prospects is the arrival of Les Kiss as Ulster’s interim Director of Rugby after the departures of David Humphreys and Mark Anscombe.

Cave welcomes the appointment of the Australian technician, a coach who shares traits with Schmidt.

“I think Les has this streak of obsessive attention to detail that Joe’s become so well known for. Absolutely everything is being videoed and he’s watching stuff like a hawk. One of the things I’ve always liked about Les is that he looks like he’s about to get into the drill at times because he’s so into it.”

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    Mute Christiaan Theron
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    Aug 4th 2014, 10:27 AM

    Darren plays best at 13 in competitive backlines. Hope he concentrates on his own game at Ulster and not worries about being the BoD replacement. If Robbie Henshaw is fit and in form at 13 it should be a competitive Ireland squad, expecting this to be Stuart Oldings break through year in 12.

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    Aug 4th 2014, 8:54 AM

    He should have started the second test in the 13 jersey

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    Mute Gary
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    Aug 4th 2014, 8:38 AM

    He should be the first choice for the shirt seeing that he is the only natural and experienced 13 we have.

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    Aug 4th 2014, 1:56 PM

    Payne!

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    Mute Billy Keenan
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    Aug 4th 2014, 11:41 AM

    Jared Payne is not a 13. He has never noticeably impressed in the 14 jersey.
    Keep him where he’s at his magical best which is at 15.

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    Mute Chris Mcdonnell
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    Aug 4th 2014, 11:13 AM

    He’ll need a good start to keep joe for experimenting with henshaw and Payne
    Saying that if he keep the 13 I won’t be unhappy.

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    Mute Martin Donovan
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    Aug 4th 2014, 2:31 PM

    I thought it was a bit unfair on Cave how he was switched to 12 after one game at 13. He made a good start in the first test, and then wasn’t allowed to build on it. What’s Joe’s thinking about him being better at 12 anyway? He’s not a hard-running, physical 12, or a playmaker 12

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    Aug 4th 2014, 4:29 PM

    Joe Schmitt already knows how good Cave is at 13 and Cave proved this in the first Argentina test.
    The management team need to look at different permutations looking ahead to selecting a six nations & World Cup squad, but there’s only a small window to do this as it can only be proved at test level.

    It’s a positive thing that Schmitt is looking at him in a different position.

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    Mute Billy Keenan
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    Aug 4th 2014, 11:44 AM

    Sorry that was meant to be 13

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