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‘Dangerous’ that people don’t know the full Suarez story – Dalglish

The Liverpool boss continued to defend the club’s response to the Luis Suarez racism row after last night’s defeat against Manchester City.

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KENNY DALGLISH FANNED the flames of the Luis Suarez racism row again yesterday evening when he accused the FA’s independent commission of obscuring a number of crucial details in their judgement on the case.

Suarez last night began his eight-game ban for using the term “negro” towards Patrice Evra, waiving his right to appeal just an hour before Liverpool lined out in a 3-0 defeat away to Manchester City.

In a pair of statements released shortly before kick-off, Liverpool and Suarez continued to deny all wrongdoing, with the club accusing the the three-man panel of constructing “a highly subjective case against Luis Suarez based on an accusation that was ultimately unsubstantiated” while Suarez said that he would “carry out the suspension with the resignation of someone who hasn’t done anything wrong.”

And speaking to reporters after the defeat, Dalglish defended Liverpool’s incredulous response and hinted that the club were aware of a number of important facts not in the public domain.

“There’s a lot of things we’d like to say and a lot we could say but we would only get ourselves in trouble,” Dalglish said.

“We are not trying to be evasive … well, we are being evasive because we don’t like getting ourselves in trouble. But we know what has gone on.

We know what is not in the report and that’s important for us. So without me getting ourselves in trouble, I think that’s it finished.

Criticism

Liverpool have come in for strong criticism for the manner in which they are handling the fallout from the FA’s judgement, including the players’ decision to wear t-shirts in support of Suarez as they warmed up ahead of the 0-0 draw against Wigan on 21 December.

But Dalglish insisted last night that the show of solidarity had been the right decision, saying that it was “dangerous” for people to judge the case without knowing all of the facts.

“It was a fabulous statement to make visually of their support for a guy who is endeared in the dressing room, one of their closest friends in the dressing room, and all of his friends in the dressing room can speak up adequately and perfectly well for him.

“And I think it is very dangerous and unfortunate that you don’t actually know the whole content of what went on at the hearing. I’m not prepared, and I can’t say it, but I am just saying it is really unfortunate you never got to hear it. That’s all I’m saying.”

As it stands, Suarez will be eligible to play again when Liverpool travel to Old Trafford to play Manchester United on 11 February, though he could return to action sooner if Liverpool win or draw their FA Cup Third Round tie against Oldham on Friday.

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Comments (41 Comments)

  • Why has terry not been banned yet, seeing as the police are actually investigating him calling Anthon Ferdinand a you know what? Wait its because hes English and denies it! Suarez admitted using the word which they state is fine in Uraguay, (not condoning it) However with the language difference its misenturprited?! So being honest is not the way to go.. i see the FA’s point!

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    • EM 04/01/12 #

      Brian, they don’t state it’s fine in Uraguay. If you read the report you’ll see they state that it is also used as an offensive term in Uraguay in contexts such as this. Many ppl in Uruguay are against the term being used at all.

      The Terry case first has to be decided in the courts, his case is in February. He should, if the FA have any credibility, face a ban after that.

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    • The FA are unable to investigate Terry as he is still to go on trial.

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    • EM 04/01/12 #

      p.s. apologies to the ppl of Uruguay for misspelling their country twice!

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    • Sorry EM, My misunderstanding! However if suarez denied saying the word, he prob wouldn’t be banned. i think the ban is quiet heavy for someone being honest! Cant wait to see Terry’s ban! As if hes charged by the police i believe it only to be p2500? that’s crazy, Suarez is much worse off and he wasn’t caught saying it!!

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  • ok thanks

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  • EM 04/01/12 #

    If Liverpool are so convinced they are right then they should appeal! They have handled this badly from the start and are now accusing the FA’s independent commission of essentially lying in their report.

    Daglish’s comments are absolutely stupid:
    “I would have thought that if you pronounced the word [negro] properly, you maybe understand it better” ??

    “If you get into asking a linguistic expert, which certainly I am not, they will tell you that the part of the country in Uruguay where he comes from, it is perfectly acceptable.” – all addressed in the report Kenny, if you read it!

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  • Oh shut up Dalglish *yawn*

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  • Can I get some explanation please. As English is not my first language I don’t get one thing. I understand that word “nigger” is offensive but word “negro” was used actually in the Kennedys movie. actor playing jfk said to black staff member : “you will be first negro workig….” so can someone explain it to me difference between those two please ?

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  • In answer to a couple of your other points.

    Evra did not say he was booked because he was black.

    Also, he didn’t make those comments about his sister. The linguistic experts, which Liverpool agreed to, stated it was the equivalent of saying fucking hell.

    Take off your blinkers. Stop blaming the victim. Stop believing the drivel. Everything is in the report for all to see so I suggest reading it.

    I’d be careful making your claims as well as they may be construed as libel.

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    • sorry…libel…are you threatwning me?

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    • ive read it

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    • I assume you are on a smart phone which delays seeing new messages on the app. Please see above my reply to the missing points. I am a Wolves fan by the way.

      The 2 previous incidents you refer to. The Chelsea incident was raised by Mike Phelan and one of the goalkeeping coaches. Evra didn’t hear anything. The Finnan case was raised by a deaf fan who watched it on tv. Again, Evra didn’t hear it. This case is his first complaint of this kind.

      It’s true criminals get lesser sentences for admitting guilt. The difference here is Suarez doesn’t accept guilt and feels he didn’t do anything wrong. He might not have meant to offend Evra, but he did and should have apologised.

      It’s irrelevant if he would be proved guilty by the CPS. He mentioned a players skin colour which is in breach of FA rules.

      Suarez is not a racist as was made clear by the FA and Evra. He made a racist comment to the wrong person and offended him. It’s human nature to apologise for offending someone. It would have avoided this mess.

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    • Nope, I am not. I have no reason to.

      Someone else may because it’s a public site. There has been previous cases where managers brought libel claims against people posting libel in public arenas. You can never be too careful.

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    • yes..smart phone. I have always thought that the smart way around this mess was for both clubs to get both players together the week after to publicly apologise to each other. I accept Suarez was wrong..ive been racialky abused in England as Im.Irish..and sectarianly abused in Irelabd because im a Protestant so I accept that Evra was upset. I also accept that LFC and Kenny handled thus badly. My gripe is and will continue to be that this smacks of a lack of fairness..i.e. it occurred on October 15 there were no witnesses to the exchange either players officials press photographers or fans…so why did it take two months to investigate. The ban for a player who is clearky not a racust is too much..3 games with the rest suspended for 2 seasons be fairer

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    • thank you for clearing that up but in this case its already in public domain so I doubt ive anything to fear as the person who commits the libel originally is responsible but thanks again and good luck to Wolves..Mick is a great manager who will kerp ye in prem. happy new year

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    • I agree that it should have been sorted out between the clubs. At this stage, it’s blown up due to external reasons (T-shirts, statements etc.)

      Suarez was unlucky in that he is the first to face the charge. The FA need a scapegoat. Another example of this was the Rio Ferdinand drugs case. A Man City youth player wasn’t banned despite missing a test on the same day.

      The Terry case is potentially more important. Shame we can’t talk about it at the minute due to the trial.

      I think it took so long to ensure the case was water tight against an appeal. It’s a difficult one as reputations are at stake. They had to make sure they got the right balance of not a racist but said something deemed to be racist.

      I’m no great fan of Evra it has to be said. If there is an apology from Suarez it should be the end of the matter. I don’t think I can handle watching too much of Andy Carroll.

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    • Happy new year your yourself as well :-)

      Hopefully we can return to football matters as soon as possible.

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    • i also feel that in light of the FA lambasting Sepp Blatter over his now infamous handshake remark..they had backed themselves into a corner. its a pity Suarez hasnt apologised but dont hold that against him..probably instructed not too by lawyers agents etc. in.my humble opinion as a rugby fan first and foremost..soccer is falling victim to the perfidious influence of money..obscene wages for young men who have more money than sense..turning their heads..Balotelli Rooney Fowler to name but a few have all had difficulties..no lessons learnt from Best and Gazza. my greatest fear is that tgis mess will cause difficulties between fans in a fixture that is begining to rival old firm for hatred..hope im proven wrong. the old saying rugby a game for thugs played by gentlemen..soccer a game for gentlemen played by thugs still rings true. back to football..it is fantastict to see swansea and norwich doing so well not to mention sunderlnds revival..basic principles still alive. my final word on Suarez/Evra saga…Shankly Paisley Emlyn Hughes and the late Gary Ablett would be embarrased by the mess…the old days werent all good but at least soccer was a more honest sporting profession

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  • John Henry needs to get rid of Kenny and fix this PR disaster. He’s damaged the clubs reputation.

    If this had happened at the Boston Red Sox it would have been handled differently.

    The fact that no apology is forthcoming from Anfield is going to cost them a lot of overseas fans and potential sponsorship.

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  • He did a runner from the pool once and looks like Kenny is setting himself up to do another one.

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    • Funnily that has been mentioned by a few commentators, he knows he has messed up with the buying of Carroll, henderson and Dowing and this could be the perfect get out clause for him.
      Either that or the LFC owners would want to rein him in.

      He is there mouthing off about this but did he take any heed of the “performance” last night? He should concentrate on the football and leave the Suarez case to the legal team, even though they had their chance with that at the trial and blew it.

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    • Well to be fair he has form on bailing out when things start to go pear shaped.

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  • Well I would just like to pose one question..when is Evra going to be punished for referring to Suarez sister in the most vile insult possible..and by his own admission STARTING the confrontation and then referring to Suarez as a Sth American (adding same vile insulting adjective). Incudentally..a linguistic expert in rioplatenese espanol and a native of the region having read the fa report has stated that tge spanish evra alleges Suarez used could not have been used as it is european spanish.
    in any case..Suarez for hus honesty gets kicked in the balls…now thats not a great example from powers that be is it. 3 games ample punishment in light of his HONESTY! YNWA Luis!

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    • forgot..Evra also accused the referee of only booking him.because he was black…a disgraceful slight on Andre Marriners character yet the panel think he is a credible witness! give me strength!

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    • You really can’t see past your club allegiance can you?

      Evra denied calling Suarez a “South American”. That was claimed by Dalglish.

      Liverpool had the chance to veto the 3 man panel selection and the Spanish linguistic experts. They chose not to so they were happy that they were fair and unbiased.

      Suarez admitted to doing the crime so now he should apologise and do the time. He shouldn’t get a lesser ban for admitting use of the word. He hasn’t learned his lesson as he hasn’t accepted his wrongdoing and has shown no remorse.

      This is bigger than football. Read the report. It’s clear that Suarez is guilty. The reaction of the club, their manager and a section of their fans is going to severely affect future sponsorship and potential new supporters. There was a time when Liverpool were bigger than any player and kept everything in house. This affair has damaged their reputation to such an extent that they may never recover.

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    • firstly Billie..this would never have made it past the CPS…second my pride in following Liverpool is something I will neve apologise for. third..youve ignored my points re Evra..he denied calling Suarez a Sth American cxxx..well nooone else on.field heard ANY of the exchange..easy to do but our player was HONEST…you ignore his disgraceful.slight on referees character accusing him of acting motivated by race..indeed youre not alone the FA ignored it too…Evra has previous and no not yhe Chelsea groundsman but a scurrilous accusation against Steve Finnan…fyi in ANY criminal court a defendant gets credit fir acceptung his offence..in this case abusing Evra racially…but he has been branded a racist whuch..being part african american he is clearly not and that fact accepted by FA and Evra..btw..what are your club loyalties? even my man utd friends accept 8 ganes way ott. this after all was a verbal spat between two highly paid pro footballers who shldv known better but one gets punished harshly and the antagonist BY HIS OWN ADMISSION gets off scot free…if you think that is justice than i sincerely hope yoy never get a chance to dispense it!

      you also ignore my acceptance of Suarez wrongdoing and that I suggest a 3 gane ban

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  • Is Patrice Evra still going to play Ireland on his Playstation, what an idiot…….

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  • My comment was pinged ??????

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    • @Brian Reilly, read the report Brian, he was caught saying it, 7 times, on video evidence used by the linguistic experts that compiled the report. Seems all Liverpool fans are just ignoring the facts outlined in the 115 page report. Take an hour people and read it.

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  • Don’t be ridiculous.

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  • just checking to see if the Score have reported Jason Roberts remarks. Nope, thought not. Here they are anyway.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/16406960

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