Go Horsie….!!!!!!!!

Its a partnership, one cant work without the other, its not just a matter of pointing a good horse at a jump and hope he gets over it.

The horse is the one who makes the jumps though. He just asks it to. The horse should get the medal.

If you think that, then you have never ridden a horse.

And hopefully no laboratories will get broken into to steal horses blood samples either! #dodgybusiness

I’m going out pulling weeds in the garden…..

The mans a cheat FFS!

I cant believe some of the comments on here against Cian
Just like the one above this one from that Pea Brain

Facts are on wikipedia and have been widely reported – horse with human sedative,HQ broken into and file stolen,massive covert operation used to intetcept sample on way to lab. Do you want to dispute this??

After what happened precisely? He was cleared of any wrong doing and the drug detected WAS NOT PERFORMANCE ENHANCING, it was a tranquilliser so would do more harm than good in a show jumping round.

JJ are you taking the piss. Pun intended

What part of my statement don’t you agree with?

@ JJ: Glad to see someone actually knows what happened subsequent to the medal being taken off O’Connor.

What part of “NON PERFORMANCE ENHANCING” don’t you understand?

JJ Rossi it was a HUMAN sedative which could have been used to calm the horses fear of the pole (for some raeason..??). Hence it is performance enhancing – read up a bit on the tactics here in horse jumping cos you havent a clue

James, i know all about horses having ridden them for 30 years and worked professionally with them for 20. Giving a horse a sedative (intended for humans or equines) is never going to make it jump, and therefore perform better. Its the FEI are the ones who have said it was not performance enhancing.

JJ you don’t consider a relaxant on a nervous animal which helps him perform better a performance enhancing effect even if the drug itself isn’t a stimulant?? Its not banned for nothing. The horse didn’t get it in his barely and can I remind you in this sorry saga part of the B sample was stolen on way to the lab and the file on the case was stolen from the Equestrian Federations HQ. You wouldn’t see it in a James Bond movie so I won’t be opening a bottle of DP over it..

The drugs, Zuclopenthixol and Fluphenazine, were both given by his vet well before the games to calm him for some reason, and at the time of the games, the tests showed that the proportation in his blood stream would have had no effect what so ever on the horse. Horses are given drugs all the time to relax them, either because of colic or when they need clipped, teeth rasped or other work. Try eating a poppy seed muffin then having a drugs test a week alter, you will fail it but no one is going to accuse you of being high.

judging from the skewed version of events you ar epresenting, a question: what are you taking yourself!

JJ wasnt to far before the games if it was in the sample.I heard the vets evasive answers – I can take it you know the people personally and your excuses can be judged in that context. That false sample and subsequent GUBU events have damaged horse jumping for 30 years and you can read the comments here 8 years on. The O Connor team have to take responsibility for what the poor animal had in him – a human tranquiliser FFS which wasnt declared.Did they think this might pass the testers perhaps?? This saga opened peoples eyes to what goes on in some yards which all people in the industry are aware of but of course dont necessarily support. You couldnt write this – Lynch dropped by the Irish mamagement cos he failed on hypersensitivity 3 times in 12 months to be replaced by O Connor. All ruining the reputation of Irish Showjumping and you wonder why we can’t celebrate the bronze??

No i don’t know any of those involved, just what i have read in news reports and from my own experience with horses. Cian was cleared of any involvement so if you know different do let us know your sources.

Sorry JJ to be clear I wasn’t asking you did you those involved in the thefts as they wernt apprehended. I asked did you know those on the O Connor team which is reasonable question if you are in the sport 20 years. If you do its fair to view your defence of them in that context.

I understood, no i don’t know Cian, I live in N.I.

Found out? See my comment above.

Because there was a banned substance in the horse, though not one that would have improved the horses performance and Cian was cleared of any involvement in administering that substance.

And if he was completely ignorant of any wrongdoing, then why does he use language such as “but when you make a mistake you pay your price and you move on.” He’s admitted making a ‘mistake’. Is this not akin to sending Michelle De Bruin off to represent us in swimming?? A robbery at a testing lab in Newmarket, UK and a robbery at the FEI headquarters in Dublin stealing related documents all sounded a bit too coincidental. You’re seriously trying to say this guy had no knowledge of ANY of these bizarre goings on? The whole thing stunk to high heaven at the time. He should not have been representing our country at the Olympics given his history.