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International incident: Ireland’s club v country Rules debate

Darran O’Sullivan is staying home to play for Mid Kerry while International Rules manager Anthony Tohill has yet more headaches ahead of the trip down under. What are the arguments?

The Irish International Rules jersey.
The Irish International Rules jersey.
Image: INPHO/James Crombie

‘Players must answer Ireland’s call at all costs’

IN ANY SPORT, the highest honour should always be to represent your country.

This maxim is more or less taken for granted in other sports such as rugby and soccer, so it seems odd that the same logic does not automatically apply to GAA.

Darran O’Sullivan has already ruled himself out of the International Rules Series and others, including the side’s captain, Stephen Cluxton, may follow his example and turn down their country in favour of their clubs.

It seems ridiculous following the sustained debate that greeted the announcement of Cluxton as captain that he may not even travel now, as he has supposedly more important matters at hand.

Any decision to turn down an international call-up, regardless of the circumstances, seems ill-conceived at best.

I mean, could you imagine Brian O’Driscoll turning down such an opportunity because he wanted to turn out for UCD? And many years from now, most people are far more likely to remember an International Rules Series than a county final.

Moreover, Dublin’s recent All-Ireland exploits means the GAA will have attracted a new group of followers in a county that has been traditionally slow to embrace the sport.

From a pragmatic perspective, a victory for Ireland against Australia would undoubtedly sustain the momentum that the sport has recently acquired in terms of popularity, but any hope of success is obviously lessened if our best players make themselves unavailable for selection.

There are undoubtedly arguments to be made for players to favour their clubs, which are leading the likes of Cluxton to think twice about representing their country.

They presumably see a certain nobility in rejecting the glitz and glamour of the international stage in favour of their bread-and-butter duties. And having played for their club all year, it would be undeniably difficult to persuade themselves to abandon their teammates at this late stage.

However, these concerns should be overridden by the honour an international call up – conceivably, the pinnacle of any sportsperson’s career. And so for the greater good, Cluxton and co must answer Ireland’s call at all costs.

In these tough economic times, the country needs a morale-boost.

An Irish International Rules victory could be just the tonic, provided the players are committed to making this happen.

- Paul Fennessy

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Anthony Tohill’s initial 18-man squad which was released recently. INPHO/James Crombie

‘Without its grassroots, the GAA is nothing’

By playing out his “club v country” tribulations in the public domain, Darran O’Sullivan has reopened an interesting can of worms.

His recent “thanks for nothing” barb towards the Kerry County Board show just how upset he is not to be travelling to Australia with the International Rules panel this weekend. But as long as Mid Kerry are involved in the Kerry Senior Football Championship, O’Sullivan should be willing and able to play for them.

No ifs, no buts, no Twitter strops.

The decision is a simple one. Without its grassroots, the GAA is nothing. Clubs are not only the skeleton which props up the whole association throughout the country, they are also the heart and soul of many Irish communities.

In a calendar often overshadowed by the National League and the All-Ireland, the county championships — and all of the local buzz and excitement which surrounds them — are their day in the sun. If they are devalued by players flitting off to Australia, it won’t be long before clubs lose the whole reason for their existence and become little more than glorified pubs surrounded by a couple of green fields.

Of course, it is a wonderful honour to be asked to represent your country at international level, one which should not be turned down lightly. But let’s be realistic about the International Rules series. Apart from trying to expand the global interest in both sports, the series was cobbled together precisely so that players who would never have a chance to play at international level could do so. It’s so contrived that they have had to develop a whole new rule book just to make it happen.

Entertaining? Yes, it frequently has been. Important? I’m not so sure.

In an ideal world, O’Sullivan and others in a similar bind would be able to fulfill both obligations. But there is no sense in disrupting the schedules and lives of the other club players to facilitate one man’s international ambitions, no matter how badly he wants to play.

- Niall Kelly

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Comments (9 Comments)

  • If the Gaa were serious about having the best players travel to oz then they would postpone all club games involving said players for the 2 weeks that the team is in oz,However the fact is they’re bowing to the pressure of running off club games which in my opinion is the correct thing to do,

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  • Paul, in your opening sentence you say the highest honour in sport is to play for your country. 1st of all, International rules is a totally different sport from Gaelic football. So the highest honour in Gaelic football is to play with your county, or provience once a year. Gaelic football is not international.Your arguement about Brian O Driscoll and UCD and Ireland doesnt make sence. It more like Brian O Driscoll being asked to play a meaniless game of american football for ireland rather than play rugby with his club in a final. And you totally showed how out of touch you are with grass roots football when you think most people will remember who won the international rules in a certain year rather than a county final. I know plenty of people who still talk about county semis, quarter finals and even first round games from 10, 20, 30 years ago and even the ref who cost them the game 50 years ago!! Playing international rules is a bonus but should never be put before Gaa clubs in my opinion

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    • James, I’m not dismissing the importance of grassroots football and realise how much it means to people. I just think in the grander scheme of things, it’s extremely important that these players represent their country for the numerous reasons I’ve given above.

      I also don’t think it’s right to imply that the International Rules Series is meaningless. If that were the case, then I don’t think Darran O’Sullivan would be so gutted to be missing it.

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  • There isn’t really a debate here or a fair comparison. I like the International Rules series but there is no ladder to climb in it so to speak, there are two games a year tops against a sole opponent. They are exhibitions, great ones mind you, but exhibitions nonetheless. Club games at senior level are vastly more important as the time of year directly clashes with the knockout stages of county championships and late ones at that, where club games which usually are of much greater value to the individual player (never mind the club’s own concerns) than this series.

    BOD wouldn’t miss and Ireland international to play for Rock because there is a greater tangible goal in competitive internationals to be attained playing for Ireland than Rock. The same can’t be said of International Rules in relation to club championship games.

    The road to St Patrick’s day, and with it potential provincial and All Ireland titles has that tangible weight. The established importance of these competitions in the psyche of both the participants and the core fan-base, and I don’t mean that in a grass roots sense alone, gives them greater standing.

    The issue here isn’t club vs country, if a club is still involved in a game where the player is needed then it will take a most exceptionally rare event for the player not to choose club. The real debate should concern the player having to choose, that is that the calendar isn’t adjusted to better facilitate players fulfilling club obligations while still fitting in time for the International Rules series.

    That issue is far more complex than there is room for in a blog comment but I suggest checking out Mick O’Keeffe’s post from back in June http://irishmediawatch.com/?p=6789 regarding adjustments to the All Ireland Football Championship, not so much for the radical changes of structure he proposes (which is interesting in its own right) but the efforts to adjust the calendar to better suit club play. I don’t wholly agree with them but it’s worth considering when trying to keep all sides pleased.

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  • There is a massive difference between playing International Rugby and playing a made up game that only involves 2 countries and is played for one week in the year. (Actually not every year, it was cancelled due to funding issues once) Couldnt see that happening to the 6 Nations. These guys put everything into club football.

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  • EM 20/10/11 #

    I think the International Rules series is a dead experiment. Back in the days of Bomber Liston & co it was worth watching but it hasn’t been entertaining for years. It’s very hard to sit and watch, either our players are getting battered & beaten or if it’s a clean game it would bore you to tears.
    It should have been something special, a meeting of two great football sports but it’s never lived up to expectation. I’ve no interest in watching it any more and if I was a player I doubt i’d be too interested in playing it either. Playing in some experimental exhibition game is not the same as lining out for Ireland in soccer or some other sport.

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  • “It seems ridiculous following the sustained debate that greeted the announcement of Cluxton as captain that he may not even travel now, as he has supposedly more important matters at hand.”

    No supposedly about it, the club game is much more important than this mess of a game.

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  • I was at the first match of the rules last year. I can remember more bout the session I had after it than off the match(and that’s saying something). My personal opinion is club comes before everything else. Thats where you start and finish your career.

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