1. These losses may come back to haunt the team
SOME PEOPLE MIGHT shrug at the outcome of a loss in a supposedly ‘meaningless’ end-of-season friendly, however such results can be more harmful than they seem at first glance.
Friendly results count towards world rankings, which consequently will impact on seedings for the 2018 World Cup and other future tournaments.
In isolation, the loss against Turkey yesterday may not matter, but being defeated by beatable teams is not something Martin O’Neill’s men can afford to make a habit of, irrespective of the context and especially given that they could now potentially accumulate a run of losses, given that their next three opponents are all teams who’ve reached the World Cup.
Should they continue to rack up such losses, they may find themselves in an impossibly taxing qualifying group for the 2018 World Cup, with the prospect of reaching the finals more unlikely than ever.
2. Bad luck and sloppy errors hampering Ireland
There was a sense of deja vu about Ireland’s game yesterday — specifically, it was uncannily reminiscent of their last fixture under Martin O’Neill against Serbia.
That match also ended in a 2-1 defeat despite a bright opening from Ireland, while the team were also hampered by bad defensive errors, incorrect refereeing decisions and a failure to build on the promise of the initial phase of the game.
On that occasion, Wes Hoolahan had a goal wrongly ruled out for offside. Yesterday, the Turkish defender Omer Toprak should have been sent off after denying Shane Long a clear goalscoring opportunity during an important stage of the contest, yet the referee inexplicably waved play on after the Hull striker was clearly impeded just outside the box.
Similarly, against the Serbs, Séamus Coleman showed a lack of basic defensive nous by conceding possession in a dangerous area and thereby prompting the concession of a second goal, while against the Turks, there was a clear lack of communication at the back as Tarik Camdal’s doubled his side’s advantage, with three defenders pushing up, as Marc Wilson simultaneously stood still and played everyone onside.
O’Neill obviously cannot legislate for officials’ ineptitude, but he’ll need to work hard on the defence before the important games begin.
3. Should Wilson be restricted to playing centre-back?
(Ireland’s Marc Wilson dejected after conceding a second goal)
Marc Wilson is in a similar position now to where John O’Shea was a few years back.
During his Man United days, the Waterford native was at various points asked to play at centre-half, full-back, midfield and even goalkeeper.
While managers appreciated O’Shea’s versatility, regularly playing in different positions stunted the player’s development and ultimately did him no good.
It’s easy to see why Martin O’Neill opted not to play Wilson at centre-back (at least initially) — the position he has belatedly began to regularly occupy for Stoke.
Ireland are reasonably well covered in that area of the field, while Wilson is comfortable enough on the ball to do a decent job in the middle of the park or at full back when needed there.
Nevertheless, in the long term, it would surely be more beneficial for both Ireland and the player himself if he were regularly asked to play in his best position, which unquestionably is in the middle of the backline.
4. McGeady departure disappointing
It was disappointing to see Aiden McGeady leaving the action prematurely at the Aviva Stadium yesterday.
Along with Wes Hoolahan, the Everton man had been Ireland’s most creative player, although ironically, the Boys in Green did manage to score following his departure from the game, despite the dwindling creativity apparent on account of his absence.
That said, Martin O’Neill’s decision to withdraw the player after 66 minutes may not have been purely tactical.
The former Celtic man has barely played a full 90 minutes since joining Everton, given that he has been recovering from a lack of fitness caused by a period in the wilderness at previous club Spartak Moscow.
5. Time to give Stokes a chance?
Not for the first time, Ireland spurned several good opportunities yesterday, as they were ultimately made to pay for such lacklustre finishing.
Despite Shane Long’s admirable work rate and excellent play in the build-up, his performance was unlikely to change the opinions of those who suspect he is not quite clinical enough to be a top player at international level.
Surely therefore, Ireland need to give other strikers a try if they want to improve on their underwhelming goalscoring record of recent years.
Though he was conspicuous by his absence yesterday, with 19 goals in 32 appearances this season (and 51 goals in 88 appearances in total), Stokes — with Robbie Keane unavailable — is the closest thing Ireland have to a natural goalscorer. To put his record in context, Shane Long has managed only four goals in 15 appearances for Hull and 19 in 60 matches before that at West Brom. In other words, Stokes has scored as many goals in one season as Long managed in three with the Baggies.
Granted, the top level of international football is a major step up from the SPL, but the 25-year-old surely at least deserves a chance to prove he can perform on a more prestigious stage. If nothing else, his free-kick-taking ability (see above) would be a considerable asset.
Bit harsh on Long comparing his goal scoring record with Stokes, it’s a lot harder to score goals for the likes of WBA and Hull in the Premier League than Celtic in the SPL…
True, but scoring goals breeds confidence, no matter who you score them for. The fact that that Stokes’ record is roughly three times better than Long’s suggests he at least deserves a proper chance to prove himself at a higher level, either alongside Long or on his own.
I’ll bet Sweden are glad they persevered with Henrik Larsson despite the fact that he was regularly playing in one of the least competitive leagues in Europe during his career.
Don’t forget to add… Hartson, Sutton, Viduka, Di Canio, Charlie Nicholas, Van Hooijdonk, Brian Mcclair, Jorge Cadete and Frank McAveenie to name a few.. And that’s only in my lifetime.. Not bad for a team that some people reckon is on a par with the League of Ireland
Yeah Stokes does deserve another shot in the Ireland team Paul, I agree with you there, I just think it’s a bit unfair on Long to compare their goalscoring records like that.
It’s ludicrous to compare Longs goalscoring record with Stokes’
He plays for a big team in a very poor league.
Remember Stokes had a crack at the premier league and simply wasn’t good enough to even hold down a regular starting place never mind actually scoring!
Stokes deserves his chance, Long is a quality player just when we are going to play with on up front he does not score enough to get us over the line.
In all fairness Paunch I don’t think Stokes are Celtic fans care what yourself and 90% of Irish Football fans think… Your football knowledge equates to the top 4 of the Premiership, have you ever bothered to watch Celtic matches? I’ve watched some absolute garbage premiership matches, take the top 5 or 6 out and it’s shite.. BTW Stokes was the only Irish player playing in the Champions League this season..
Dave let me put it to you another way, a former team-mate of mine Conor Sammon scored a decent amount of goals in the Scottish league playing for a very ordinary Kilmarknock team.
He went to the Premier league and didn’t make the cut.
He even has struggled to get goals in the championship.
So Stokes playing in a team who finished 23points ahead of second place in the league I’d expect goals from the sheer amount of chances he’d get.
This delusional idea that Stokes is some sort goal machine is ridiculous, the guy couldn’t hack it in a better league.
Long is quicker, stronger, better in the air and works harder with a great attitude.
And believe me my knowledge of football goes far beyond the top four, I suggest you broaden your horizons as I reckon I could probably nab a few goals in the SPL, awfull standard of football that idiotic Celtic supporters like yourself refuse to realise.
Your the idiot my friend.. I never once called Stokes a Goal machine.. Connor sammon scored an average of 6 goals a season when he played in the spl, Stokes is scoring over 20 a season so your not comparing like with like.. Got off your Barstoll every once and again and you might learn a thing or two about Football..
so following Celtic makes you less of a barstool-er then following the premiership? Interesting, i didn’t realise the Scottish league was played in Ireland.
David put it this way,
With Anthony Stokes’ Scottish football goals taken away from him his record stands at
61 games played, 4 goals scored.
That’s from Premier League and Championship.
Simply put, he’s not good enough to lead the line for Ireland.
He plays for the best team in a very poor league and uneducated football “fans” such as yourself can’t see past that.
Stokes flopped in the championship for both Sheffield Utd and Crystal Palace, with strikers like Simon Cox and Daryl Murphy scoring considerably more goals at that level of football… He also flopped badly at Sunderland in the premier league.
He deserves another chance for Ireland, perhaps against Costa Rica next week, but let’s not delude ourselves, he is nowhere near good enough or big and strong enough to lead the line for us in qualifying (we play 4-5-1, stokes is not a hold the play up striker… not against top defences anyway)
I would rather have Walters or Long personally…., scoring against bottom half spl teams is nothing special, he might as well be knocking them in against Pats, Rovers and Dundalk.
Stokes is a natural goalscorer, Long is not.. It doesn’t matter where your scoring goals as long as your scoring them.. Sure Robbie Keane is only playing in the states and yet would be first choice to play up front…
Celtic just have to walk the ball into the net in Scotland because of Rangers’ absence. It’s like a small step up from the English Championship.
If Stokes was in the English Premier League, he would struggle to get off the bench and probably head off on loan to Espanyol or somewhere.
Losing friendlies at the beginning of a manager’s tenure is nothing to fret about. I thought Wilson was quite good in midfield yesterday, better than(the incapable of passing the ball more than five feet)Whelan. While at centre back he was at fault for their second goal.
To say O’ Shea’s versatility ultimately did him no good is just wrong. It allowed him to stay at Utd for many years, accumulating many medals. Stokes has had chances for Ireland, but didn’t show any sign of being a regular goalscorer.
I wonder if it’s his baggage they’re worried about.
At he’s trying to play football. Though Ireland were the better team yesterday. Turks just a little craftier. Couldn’t care less if we never win another game once they’re playing decent football. I believe it will come. I’d like to see Clark next to o Shea and with Gibson,McCarthy fit it’ll be a much stronger.midfield
As usual sod all about Walters,the tank that scoredafter coming off the bench to beat the the defender with a pull back and belt it into the net. I really think Long would benefit from his presence up front in a 4-4-2 formation similar to him and Jelavic at Hull, flanked by Mc Geady and Mc Lean with Hoolihan operating in a free role and Mc Carthy covering the defensive line. Cant say much about Wilson at Stoke cos i havent seen many of their games this season but for Ireland hes not very reliable,a bit lost in any role they gave him. Coleman, another defensive error leading to a goal. Forgetting hes not playing with Jagielka and Distan maybe.?
With you on the Wilson O’Shea scenario, but surely any player who gets an opportunity to play in any position, should make the most of that opportunity and adapt.
Going by the championship playoff final, Dunne is probably still our best option at the back
Wilson is too good to leave out but personally he’s best position is centre back and works be my first choice with O shea,also Wes HAS to be accommodated in midfield as he’s superb in splitting defences and setting up attacks with his sublime passing.Up front is debatable and to play but has to have pace and skill as to latch on to passes so need to scout for new blood as most not up to the job,but good future ahead.
Bring back Richie
As usual sod all about Walters,the tank that scored after coming off the bench to beat the the defender with a pull back and belt it into the net. I really think Long would benefit from his presence up front in a 4-4-2 formation similar to him and Jelavic at Hull, flanked by Mc Geady and Mc Lean with Hoolihan operating a free role and Mc Carthy covering the defensive line. Cant say much about Wilson at Stoke cos i havent seen many of their games this season but for Ireland hes not very reliable,a bit lost in any role they gave him. Coleman, another defensive error leading to a goal. Forgetting hes not playing with Jagielka and Distan maybe.? Italy up next COYBIG…
Wilson’s best performances have been at left back for me and unless white is going to get a chance there he is our best left back. Hoolahan and long is def our best 9 10 combo